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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
Perron was nothing more than a salary dump they had to make. They got a second round pick too in that deal. It's not like Perron has done anything of note since.

A lot of people here were female doging about Pittsburgh trading Borts for Cole due to losing all the grit on the blueline. At the time, it wasn't thought of as a bad deal for STL. Now, with the way Cole looked for us, it looks bad.

- Oneonta Penguin

The Despres for Lovejoy deal killed me inside. What a waste.
so_buzz11
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Home, PA
Joined: 05.14.2015

Jun 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
Agreed. That may be the best semi real roster posted yet. That team would be a legit contender. Even if can't get Oshie, have Perron for Sids wing and can make trade at deadline if need another wing.

Anyone have a scout report on Tikonov, don't know much about him.

- mmonana120

Hat trick by Tikhonov (notice pass to himself in traffic on first goal). Goes to the net, then around the net on second. Third is basically empty netter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yhOlRWH7Tg
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
As I said previously: another Hörnqvist/Kunitz type. His goals seem to be around the cage pretty often.
- Barnaby36


If that is the description for the Russian, sign me up. That would be intriguing to put with Malkin, especially the Russian equal to PH.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 24 @ 1:42 PM ET
The Despres for Lovejoy deal killed me inside. What a waste.
- Barnaby36



It killed a lot of people on this board and equally killed our chances to maximize return on Sutter. Sutter and Despres together could get a top six forward.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 1:42 PM ET
Perron was nothing more than a salary dump they had to make. They got a second round pick too in that deal. It's not like Perron has done anything of note since.

A lot of people here were female doging about Pittsburgh trading Borts for Cole due to losing all the grit on the blueline. At the time, it wasn't thought of as a bad deal for STL. Now, with the way Cole looked for us, it looks bad.

- Oneonta Penguin


I was not one of those people. I was extatic. Then again, I have obvious Notre Dame bias.


Mark Eaton is the GOAT.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 1:43 PM ET
question on Plotnikov:

It sounds like it will be a one year ELC deal. If so, will he be a RFA next summer?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 1:45 PM ET
If that is the description for the Russian, sign me up. That would be intriguing to put with Malkin, especially the Russian equal to PH.
- Oneonta Penguin


He has a nice shot too from what I could tell from the high lights. Very 2 detentional. Not just a banger.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 1:46 PM ET
question on Plotnikov:

It sounds like it will be a one year ELC deal. If so, will he be a RFA next summer?

- cap1681

yes if he did one year..... but I believe two is minimum..

edit: nevermind... his age makes it no requirement on years
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 1:49 PM ET
yes if he did one year..... but I believe two is minimum
- nelson911


All the rumors i've seen have said it will be a one year deal around 1M
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 1:50 PM ET
All the rumors i've seen have said it will be a one year deal around 1M
- cap1681


That's what Panarin is getting. 900 something K for a year.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 24 @ 1:50 PM ET
All the rumors i've seen have said it will be a one year deal around 1M
- cap1681

Yea as it should be... didn't realize the guy is 25
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 24 @ 1:52 PM ET
If that is the description for the Russian, sign me up. That would be intriguing to put with Malkin, especially the Russian equal to PH.
- Oneonta Penguin

Looks like he plays a good ol' canadian hockey game, being physical/crashing the net.

Do you think Malkin had some saying on him? I bet he did.

In 2014 IIHF had 12 points in 10 games for Russia. 3rd overall. Guess who was 1st? Tikhonov with 16 points and 1st overall. I hope we can bring him too.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 24 @ 1:56 PM ET
Oshie also played a shutdown role with backes. Stick him with Sid and he will have 25+ goals easily.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 1:56 PM ET
Looks like he plays a good ol' canadian hockey game, being physical/crashing the net.

Do you think Malkin had some saying on him? I bet he did.

In 2014 IIHF had 12 points in 10 games for Russia. 3rd overall. Guess who was 1st? Tikhonov with 16 points and 1st overall. I hope we can bring him too.

- Barnaby36


Loose rumors say that Tik will go where this guy goes. If that's true we're in buisness but nothing reliable yet.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 24 @ 2:00 PM ET
Loose rumors say that Tik will go where this guy goes. If that's true we're in buisness but nothing reliable yet.
- Victoro311


That'd be awesome. Would he get an ELC as well?
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 2:00 PM ET
Loose rumors say that Tik will go where this guy goes. If that's true we're in buisness but nothing reliable yet.
- Victoro311


Saw that from @JB_Hockeytalk

He doesn't seem like some of those other rumor mongers on twitter. He usually knows what he is talking about.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 2:01 PM ET
That'd be awesome. Would he get an ELC as well?
- drummer829


No, he can sign for whatever, since he already went through an ELC.
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 24 @ 2:01 PM ET
Well then obviously you make that trade. Who'd you rather move between Beau and Harrington? There's pluses and minuses for both.
- Victoro311


Definitely agree. I feel like this is Beau's year to break out. Honestly if I were the GM that would be an eeny meeny miny moe situation.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 24 @ 2:03 PM ET
That'd be awesome. Would he get an ELC as well?
- drummer829


No. He's played in the NHL with Arizona. He'll be a UFA. Shouldn't command a large cap hit though. Was spectacular in Arizona. Didn't blossom until the KHL which could scare off some teams into thinking he can't cut it as a North American professional. I think that's off point though. He's a responsible two way forward and a tenacious fore and back checker. Probably the Russian version of Dupuis but less speed and more offensive ability.
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 24 @ 2:03 PM ET
A 3rd round pick doesn't sweeten any deal for a legit top 6 forward...
- j.boyd919


If a deal is close it does.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 2:04 PM ET
It killed a lot of people on this board and equally killed our chances to maximize return on Sutter. Sutter and Despres together could get a top six forward.
- Oneonta Penguin


Yep. I didn't give a damn about Despres as anything more than an asset. But the Pens player development and asset management was completely exposed. Especially when trading him to ANA who has a ton of young top 9 forwards (Palmieri, Rakell, Cogliano), cap space to take Scuderi at 50%, or even getting back a 3rd rounder in this draft wouldn't have been terrible asset management.
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 24 @ 2:04 PM ET
Loose rumors say that Tik will go where this guy goes. If that's true we're in buisness but nothing reliable yet.
- Victoro311


(frank). Please let this be true
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 24 @ 2:04 PM ET
Loose rumors say that Tik will go where this guy goes. If that's true we're in buisness but nothing reliable yet.
- Victoro311

Well you just made my day. Hope he'll sign with us for cheap. He's a good two-way player.

We seem to be going after responsible and hard working russians if you didn't know they existed
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 24 @ 2:04 PM ET
No. He's played in the NHL with Arizona. He'll be a UFA. Shouldn't command a large cap hit though. Was spectacular in Arizona. Didn't blossom until the KHL which could scare off some teams into thinking he can't cut it as a North American professional. I think that's off point though. He's a responsible two way forward and a tenacious fore and back checker. Probably the Russian version of Dupuis but less speed and more offensive ability.
- Victoro311


A Russian hornqvist and a Russian dupuis with Malkin. Where do we sign?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 24 @ 2:07 PM ET
Saw this guy team and just had to post it. It is not mine and he has an all Russian 2nd line. It is not what you would expect.

https://www.hockeyscap.com/armchair-gm/team/5879

- mmonana120

Just the idea of Malkin playing with those 2, if successful, would open up a ton of possibilities. That's a pretty lethal 3rd line and he got Franson.
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