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usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 24 @ 9:52 AM ET
Sharp costs $2.1 million more a year. So whatever improvement in player he is over Kunitz is well offset by that cap hit.
- jfkst1

Is Sharp 2.1 million dollars better than Kunitz? Not at this point in his career at least
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:52 AM ET
How far is FLA from the cap floor? Scuds can help...
- sammy87


Pronger can help even more.

Just sayin.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:52 AM ET
How far is FLA from the cap floor? Scuds can help...
- sammy87

$19,116,292

They have to re-sign Petrovic, Hayes, Huberdeau, and (most importantly) Heatley.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:53 AM ET
Hey I'm with ya. You guys were snake bitten last year and were not a deep team. One of the things I love about us is if someone gets hurt we have great players to bring up to take the spot.
- Panthers88

There are very few teams in the league that can handle that many injuries to their top 6 and blue line. There are actually no teams in the league with that kind of depth.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:54 AM ET
Pronger can help even more.

Just sayin.

- jmatchett383


Isn't he just LTIR and not against your cap?
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 9:54 AM ET
There are very few teams in the league that can handle that many injuries to their top 6 and blue line. There are actually no teams in the league with that kind of depth.
- Cptmjl


Thank you. I think the Isles advance against the Caps if they don't lose half their blue line.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:56 AM ET
Isn't he just LTIR and not against your cap?
- sammy87


Yes, for the Flyers. But his $4.9M cap hit and $550K real-world salary would help them reach the cap floor (they wouldn't have to LTIR him) without paying much real money.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:57 AM ET
Yes, for the Flyers. But his $4.9M cap hit and $550K real-world salary would help them reach the cap floor (they wouldn't have to LTIR him) without paying much real money.
- jmatchett383



Ahhh. I love how he is a NHL employee as well.....
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:58 AM ET
Ahhh. I love how he is a NHL employee as well.....
- sammy87


The NHL has shown that it will violate its own rules as it sees fit. He should not have been allowed to be employed by the NHL while still under contract from an NHL team.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
Thank you. I think the Isles advance against the Caps if they don't lose half their blue line.
- jfkst1

Agreed and I'm not saying that in a homerish way. I'll take it a step further and say if we had Hamonic at least in the line up we would have advanced. Hopefully next year.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
The NHL has shown that it will violate its own rules as it sees fit. He should not have been allowed to be employed by the NHL while still under contract from an NHL team.
- jmatchett383


Agree 100%. I just read an article on TSN about this recently. The writer speculated that the league would probably not allow Pronger to be traded.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 24 @ 10:00 AM ET
Now sign Sheary for fourth line duty
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 24 @ 10:01 AM ET
The NHL has shown that it will violate its own rules as it sees fit. He should not have been allowed to be employed by the NHL while still under contract from an NHL team.
- jmatchett383

True, although I'm fine with him being inducted into the HOF with an existing contract
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 10:02 AM ET
Agree 100%. I just read an article on TSN about this recently. The writer speculated that the league would probably not allow Pronger to be traded.
- jfkst1


They could try to deem it "circumvention" but as it stands, it is the contract of an NHL player being traded for contracts of other NHL players/draft picks. They NHL allowed the contract, but the definition of "circumvention" in the CBA is purposefully vague so that the NHL can use it with absolute authority whenever they feel like it.
BarbarianSavage
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Yo momma's basement
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 10:02 AM ET
Well in hockey terms he probably is what he is. imo he looks like a decent top 9 option.
- Oil_Addict

Brad Richards got faster this year. He is what? 35?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 24 @ 10:03 AM ET
Brad Richards got faster this year. He is what? 35?
- BarbarianSavage



And Jagr still doesn't seem to be slowing down... finding a few exceptions to the rule doesn't change the rule.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 24 @ 10:06 AM ET
The NHL has shown that it will violate its own rules as it sees fit. He should not have been allowed to be employed by the NHL while still under contract from an NHL team.
- jmatchett383


Plus he's making money by selling the pucks he stole from the 2010 SCF
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Jun 24 @ 10:06 AM ET
Does anyone know when the signing can become official? July 1st when the FA's come off the books? Friday during the draft if cap space is created via trades? I'm guessing it's not official since they're still in cap hell
BarbarianSavage
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Yo momma's basement
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 10:07 AM ET
And Jagr still doesn't seem to be slowing down... finding a few exceptions to the rule doesn't change the rule.
- Guile

Jagr is slowing down a lot... He used to carry defenders on his back.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 10:07 AM ET
Plus he's making money by selling the pucks he stole from the 2010 SCF
- drummer829


That's eBay gold right there.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 10:08 AM ET
Jagr is slowing down alot... He used to carry defenders on his back.
- BarbarianSavage


He's still one of the best at controlling the puck along the boards, but he doesn't have near the same speed/strength that he used to. Not even close.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 24 @ 10:08 AM ET
SERGEI PLOTNIKOV

Keep that name. The guy can hit, fight and score around the cage. This is what we need: hard workers around the net. A Kunitz/Hörnqvist type?
lpstjg
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.28.2015

Jun 24 @ 10:08 AM ET
They could try to deem it "circumvention" but as it stands, it is the contract of an NHL player being traded for contracts of other NHL players/draft picks. They NHL allowed the contract, but the definition of "circumvention" in the CBA is purposefully vague so that the NHL can use it with absolute authority whenever they feel like it.
- jmatchett383


But are you allowed to deal injured players that have no chance of ever playing in the NHL again? IMO, as his contract will always be a non factor for the Flyers (since they always spend to the cap), they should just cancel the remainder of his contract which would avoid the "perception of potential conflict of interest" in this whole thing.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 10:08 AM ET
Does anyone know when the signing can become official? July 1st when the FA's come off the books? Friday during the draft if cap space is created via trades? I'm guessing it's not official since they're still in cap hell
- stowerkraut


It can become official July 1st.
BarbarianSavage
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Yo momma's basement
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 10:08 AM ET
He's still one of the best at controlling the puck along the boards, but he doesn't have near the same speed/strength that he used to. Not even close.
- jmatchett383

Yup
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