Connolly has the talent to be a top line guy if Julien wants to keep Loui where he is
- eganator

Agreed, but he is still a question mark. What if he fails as a top 6 forward? Very plausible, and then the Bruins are hamstrung

Agreed, but he is still a question mark. What if he fails as a top 6 forward? Very plausible, and then the Bruins are hamstrung
- abolton

Yeah that's a risk with pretty much everyone it's not like they're gonna break the bank for him.

In theory that could work, but that Krejci/Ericksson combo didn't last for a reason. I don't see Louie as a top line guy, and I would prefer to see him skate with Spooner and Pasta given his responsibility on D and veteran presence on the ice. I also see Smith staying with Bergeron and Marchand, meaning the top line is Kreijci /Connolly and ???. Unless we beefed up our offer to Pheonix and got a forward in return, I see a hole.
- abolton

"IF" a trade like that were to happen........we would free up $6 mill so maybe a FA?

I don't like Smith, to be honest, he is a third liner on a good team and his stats are inflated because he is playing with Bergy. Combine that with salary at $3.5 mil.

BIG question marks with Connolly and Pasta........
I think Pasta is a stud, but relying on a 19 old kid to carry a top line is crazy to me. We need to simmer with expectations. But, my eyes tell me he is a VERY good top line winger in a couple years.
Connolly will at worst be an average third liner.......at best maybe a solid second or top liner..........thinking Horton and even Pouliot.

Maybe we can trade Chara and Smith plus koko for Eberle.........?

Don't know........my brain hurts. But two days.....it is exciting!

Lucic plus gets us Hanifin.........
Chara plus gets us an Eberle.........

That would be an AMAZING offseason to me.

Want to get really fricken nuts.........Krejci gets us Strome........?

is this a guest blog by ryan wilson? that trade suggestion is so one sided. to get from 14 to 3 hamilton better be included or the phone is being hung up.

Did you just post 2 blogs within 10 hours?

is this a guest blog by ryan wilson? that trade suggestion is so one sided. to get from 14 to 3 hamilton better be included or the phone is being hung up.
- flyershockey

By almost ALL accounts Hamilton is already a TOP pairing D-man. He has had three years of development in the NHL and has not regressed, but improved in every aspect in those three years.

The idea that Hamilton is worth LESS than a D-man that has yet to play a game in the NHL is just plain stupid silly.

It's the classic overvaluing of "draft picks."

By almost ALL accounts Hamilton is already a TOP pairing D-man. He has had three years of development in the NHL and has not regressed, but improved in every aspect in those three years.

The idea that Hamilton is worth LESS than a D-man that has yet to play a game in the NHL is just plain stupid silly.

It's the classic overvaluing of "draft picks."
- JIwasinskiJr

whats stupid is thinking a year of lucic, a goalie prospect and moving back 13 picks, and savards contract (which helps the bruins to get rid of more than az to take on) is a valid offer. its a joke of a suggestion by the writer.

whats stupid is thinking a year of lucic, a goalie prospect and moving back 13 picks, and savards contract (which helps the bruins to get rid of more than az to take on) is a valid offer. its a joke of a suggestion by the writer.
- flyershockey

Maybe it is. Great.

But what is even dumber is to suggest that the 3rd pick would get you Hamilton.

EDIT: Although we traded Seguin.....so.....anything is possible I guess.

Maybe it is. Great.

But what is even dumber is to suggest that the 3rd pick would get you Hamilton.

EDIT: Although we traded Seguin.....so.....anything is possible I guess.
- JIwasinskiJr

so essentially you want to trade trash to move up to 3....

so essentially you want to trade trash to move up to 3....
- flyershockey

Yes, Bruins fans love making up terrible trade scenarios. Our team is in cap hell, with no young prospects and an aging core. Let us have our whacky one sided trade proposals, it's all we have. That and a 37 year old Chara to grow old with.

so essentially you want to trade trash to move up to 3....
- flyershockey

What trash?

Lucic is overvalued by the league, in my opinion. But I want him traded for as much as possible. Not my fault others think he is so great, and maybe the change of scenery does him good.

Subban is considered one of if not the best goalie prospect in North America. He has had two solid years in the AHL.

Savard's contract is a cap hit of $4 million, but only pays $500k, which helps Ari get to the Cap Floor, if they want to.
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I would not do it if I was ARI but that's not how "transactions" are made.

If people value something they compete for the goods/service and create the value that can be gained in return.

so essentially you want to trade trash to move up to 3....
- flyershockey

OK. What's your scenario, smart guy?

OK. What's your scenario, smart guy?
- glove_was_stuck

Starts with Hamilton he said...........maybe Hamilton and Pasta for the third overall pick?

That seems fair. A number one D-man with three years of progressing play "proving" his worth. And a potential top line RWer.

For a D-man that "may one day" be a star D-man...........it's like trading Hamilton for a player that "might be" Hamilton three years from now........like "back to the future."

What trash?

Lucic is overvalued by the league, in my opinion. But I want him traded for as much as possible. Not my fault others think he is so great, and maybe the change of scenery does him good.

Subban is considered one of if not the best goalie prospect in North America. He has had two solid years in the AHL.

Savard's contract is a cap hit of $4 million, but only pays $500k, which helps Ari get to the Cap Floor, if they want to.
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I would not do it if I was ARI but that's not how "transactions" are made.

If people value something they compete for the goods/service and create the value that can be gained in return.
- JIwasinskiJr

AZ will have no problem getting to the floor. they have a ton of RFAs and only 11 guys signed. they'll take a guy like savard off the bruins hands but will want value in return.

the bigger issue with lucic is being signed for 1 yr. theres no guarantee he stays (and im working on the assumption he wouldnt), so he doesnt provide AZ with much value.

az has mike smith signed for 4 more years, so unless they are also moving him, they have no use for subban.

nice work though.

Starts with Hamilton he said...........maybe Hamilton and Pasta for the third overall pick?

That seems fair. A number one D-man with three years of progressing play "proving" his worth. And a potential top line RWer.

For a D-man that "may one day" be a star D-man...........it's like trading Hamilton for a player that "might be" Hamilton three years from now........like "back to the future."
- JIwasinskiJr

AZ is fielding multiple offers for the pick, or can sit there and take a potential star. they arent going to take boston's leftover garbage. i agree with you draft picks are highly overvalued, but theres a ton of interest in that pick.

The 3rd overall pick is not worth Hamilton... Hamilton is what you hope a 3rd overall turns into.

The 3rd overall pick is not worth Hamilton... Hamilton is what you hope a 3rd overall turns into.
- Danformo

im not disagreeing. but thats what it will take for boston to get the pick. they have nothing else az would want, especially when fielding multiple offers.

Starts with Hamilton he said...........maybe Hamilton and Pasta for the third overall pick?

That seems fair. A number one D-man with three years of progressing play "proving" his worth. And a potential top line RWer.

For a D-man that "may one day" be a star D-man...........it's like trading Hamilton for a player that "might be" Hamilton three years from now........like "back to the future."
- JIwasinskiJr

Why would would want Hamilton if you have OEL? Similar player plus isn't Arizona deep on D and thin up front?

Why would would want Hamilton if you have OEL? Similar player plus isn't Arizona deep on D and thin up front?
- glove_was_stuck

I'm not moving Pasternak.

Why would would want Hamilton if you have OEL? Similar player plus isn't Arizona deep on D and thin up front?
- glove_was_stuck

I have no idea. The guy is a Philly fan. And they have a great track record with D-men and goalies though, so maybe he knows what he is talking about.

The question is why is ARI shopping the pick.......?

They seem to be open to trading it, so what would they think they can get?

But, to think that you get a "star" for a pick is kinda counter productive........hence why a trade like the one Ty mentioned seems to at least be a solid possibility.

im not disagreeing. but thats what it will take for boston to get the pick. they have nothing else az would want, especially when fielding multiple offers.
- flyershockey

Okay thats BS lol. Marchand, Subban, multiple 1sts, Spooner, Pastrnik, Krejci, Krug. They have stuff to trade, it would just make the Bruins worse for a couple years.

(Not all that for the 3rd obv)

I'm not moving Pasternak.
- Fountain-San

love when teams and fan bases want to get something of high value without giving up anything of value

I'm not moving Pasternak.
- Fountain-San

I was just joking and screwing with the Philly guy about that trade senecio.

He would be on my list of no trading....Bergy, Hamilton, Pasta, Rask and Krejci.

Although I would listen to crazy offers for the last three on that list.

Okay thats BS lol. Marchand, Subban, multiple 1sts, Spooner, Pastrnik, Krejci, Krug. They have stuff to trade, it would just make the Bruins worse for a couple years.
- Danformo

why would they want subban? they have a goalie for the next 4 years at a high cap hit. smith would need to be shipped out for that to make sense.

krejci turns 30 next year and has a big cap hit for the next 6 years. thats not exactly az MO in terms of how they run the club.

marchand is a decent piece in return, but him and a couple picks isnt getting it done.

krug isnt anything special in terms of a player.

to get up to 3, youre going to have to give up a star or soon to be star.

I was just joking and screwing with the Philly guy about that trade senecio.

He would be on my list of no trading....Bergy, Hamilton, Pasta, Rask and Krejci.

Although I would listen to crazy offers for the last three on that list.
- JIwasinskiJr

so again...how exactly are you getting to 3 if you arent giving up the only pieces of value on the team? and rask isnt even that valuable with the cap hit that comes along with him. same with krejci.