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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 25 @ 8:03 AM ET
Saw on Spector hockey this rumor going around

Sutter to Calgary for Hudler and a 2nd??


If i'm GMJR, i jump on that in a second

- cap1681

Some of these writers are willing to make crazy deals for Sutter. (This was Mark Spector, I believe, not an actual rumor. Hopefully a GM does! I do feel someone will overvalue Sutter.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 8:08 AM ET
Some of these writers are willing to make crazy deals for Sutter. (This was Mark Spector, I believe, not an actual rumor. Hopefully a GM does! I do feel someone will overvalue Sutter.
- Tojo.


Another consideration is MIN. They want a 2C and need to move Spurgeon because they also have too many RH top 4 dmen.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 25 @ 8:09 AM ET
Some of these writers are willing to make crazy deals for Sutter. (This was Mark Spector, I believe, not an actual rumor. Hopefully a GM does! I do feel someone will overvalue Sutter.
- Tojo.



Sutter for Hudler, AND a 2nd?

I think I just got a full on erection... Sutter hate aside, thats a great deal.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 25 @ 8:30 AM ET
Sutter for Hudler, AND a 2nd?

I think I just got a full on erection... Sutter hate aside, thats a great deal.

- Guile


By some miracle this trade happens, do you use both 2nd round picks to try and move up to the 1st round?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 25 @ 8:34 AM ET
By some miracle this trade happens, do you use both 2nd round picks to try and move up to the 1st round?
- cap1681



I might need a new pair of pants
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 25 @ 8:36 AM ET
So the NYPost is linking the Pens to St.Louis. saying there is mutual interest on a one year deal. I thought he looked out of it by the playoffs though. Still, hard to pass up a one year deal with him for around 2 mill. He's a useful player. Just a really random linking.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 8:40 AM ET
So the NYPost is linking the Pens to St.Louis. saying there is mutual interest on a one year deal. I thought he looked out of it by the playoffs though. Still, hard to pass up a one year deal with him for around 2 mill. He's a useful player. Just a really random linking.
- usethe1-2-2


I don't really want MSL, but if it prevents the Pens from doing anything stupid like a Sharp trade, I'm fine with it.
lpstjg
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.28.2015

Jun 25 @ 8:41 AM ET
So the NYPost is linking the Pens to St.Louis. saying there is mutual interest on a one year deal. I thought he looked out of it by the playoffs though. Still, hard to pass up a one year deal with him for around 2 mill. He's a useful player. Just a really random linking.
- usethe1-2-2



Why are the Pens linked to all those old vets on the decline? Didn't our GM come out and said we had to look towards youth? This scares me.
lpstjg
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.28.2015

Jun 25 @ 8:42 AM ET
By some miracle this trade happens, do you use both 2nd round picks to try and move up to the 1st round?
- cap1681



Habs' GM mentioned he would do such a trade. The Habs have the 26th pick. Would you do it?
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:45 AM ET
Habs' GM mentioned he would do such a trade. The Habs have the 26th pick. Would you do it?
- lpstjg

Yup
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 25 @ 8:46 AM ET
So the NYPost is linking the Pens to St.Louis. saying there is mutual interest on a one year deal. I thought he looked out of it by the playoffs though. Still, hard to pass up a one year deal with him for around 2 mill. He's a useful player. Just a really random linking.
- usethe1-2-2


I like the idea of a 1 year only deal for cheap.

If you consider what the Rags did this season, they were flying for the larger part. Nash on fire & MSL played ? Games (thinking most games so little rest??) & their on the gas attitude to show all how good they were, it would have been a hard year. If we could manipulate his TOI as MJ did with Sid & Geno, he could be a very good pick up. It will need a deeper team than we had last year to be able to do that though which is starting to get together if these F rumoured are going to sign. He is a legit top 6 F also unless his age automatically changes that??
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 25 @ 8:48 AM ET
I don't really want MSL, but if it prevents the Pens from doing anything stupid like a Sharp trade, I'm fine with it.
- jfkst1

That's what I'm thinking. Maybe GMJR has a decent trade in place and wants to bring in a vet like MSL just to bridge the gap until Kap is ready next year, depth is depth.
lpstjg
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.28.2015

Jun 25 @ 8:49 AM ET
Yup
- dbell646


I think I would do it too, might wait until it's the Habs time to select to see who's on the board. On the other side, having a chance to draft 2 prospects in this draft 2nd round kinda helps the Pens rebuild their stock of young prospects faster... 2 > 1. But that 1 has the potential to be very good. Tough call.
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jun 25 @ 8:49 AM ET
I like the idea of a 1 year only deal for cheap.

If you consider what the Rags did this season, they were flying for the larger part. Nash on fire & MSL played ? Games (thinking most games so little rest??) & their on the gas attitude to show all how good they were, it would have been a hard year. If we could manipulate his TOI as MJ did with Sid & Geno, he could be a very good pick up. It will need a deeper team than we had last year to be able to do that though which is starting to get together if these F rumoured are going to sign. He is a legit top 6 F also unless his age automatically changes that??

- Aussiepenguin


I would be ok with MSL for 1 yr/$2 mil: low risk/high reward signing
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 25 @ 8:51 AM ET
So the NYPost is linking the Pens to St.Louis. saying there is mutual interest on a one year deal. I thought he looked out of it by the playoffs though. Still, hard to pass up a one year deal with him for around 2 mill. He's a useful player. Just a really random linking.
- usethe1-2-2


Take this one million times over trading futures for someone not named T.J. Oshie. Create a stop gap between now and when Kapanen is ready without mortgaging the future. Between St. Louis, Plotnikov, Dupuis, maybe Tikhonov, and Bennett we should be able to put together a second line that works. It's a very good option for the Penguins at this juncture.
usethe1-2-2
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.02.2014

Jun 25 @ 8:52 AM ET
I would be ok with MSL for 1 yr/$2 mil: low risk/high reward signing
- joescullz

Some pieces will need moved first. At this point he is 40 and a tweener 2-3 liner. Unless the plan is using a young 4th line Spaling-Sundqvist-Bennett I'm not sure St.Louis fits our current team. But a Dupuis Soderberg MSL third line is enticing
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 25 @ 8:55 AM ET
I don't really want MSL, but if it prevents the Pens from doing anything stupid like a Sharp trade, I'm fine with it.
- jfkst1


Agreed
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 25 @ 8:56 AM ET
wow, Ottawa got good value on signing two of their young forwards. Mark Stone at 3.5M is a steal, considering he put up 60+ points and 25+goals last year.
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Jun 25 @ 8:56 AM ET
Take this one million times over trading futures for someone not named T.J. Oshie. Create a stop gap between now and when Kapanen is ready without mortgaging the future. Between St. Louis, Plotnikov, Dupuis, maybe Tikhonov, and Bennett we should be able to put together a second line that works. It's a very good option for the Penguins at this juncture.
- Victoro311


I agree. MSL still had 21g and 52 pts last year. Sign him for the year and hope he has 1 more year in him.
BourbonCounty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.08.2015

Jun 25 @ 8:57 AM ET
How did Letang NOT win the Masterton last night?
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jun 25 @ 8:58 AM ET
I would be ok with MSL for 1 yr/$2 mil: low risk/high reward signing
- joescullz


Yes agree. But would he sign for that?

As I said above the signing/s of the Russian/s may bring players here for less than they would off if we were actually relying on our WBS guys or trading away our young D.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 25 @ 8:58 AM ET
wow, Ottawa got good value on signing two of their young forwards. Mark Stone at 3.5M is a steal, considering he put up 60+ points and 25+goals last year.
- cap1681


Bartley, who currently stalking this board, just yelled out in pain and fired a buck shot at the portrait of Brandon Sutter he keeps in his basement.
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Jun 25 @ 8:59 AM ET
I agree. MSL still had 21g and 52 pts last year. Sign him for the year and hope he has 1 more year in him.
- willi


Pens might have to do a bunch of 1 year deals again which is okay . How would yinz feel about Bergenheim and/or Fleisschman to 1 year contracts?
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 9:02 AM ET
Pens might have to do a bunch of 1 year deals again which is okay . How would yinz feel about Bergenheim and/or Fleisschman to 1 year contracts?
- joescullz


If it is a UFA, I'm fine with almost any of them on a 1 year deal. Buyout Scuderi, trade Spaling, Sutter, and Kunitz and the team has a decent amount of money available.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 25 @ 9:03 AM ET
Pens might have to do a bunch of 1 year deals again which is okay . How would yinz feel about Bergenheim and/or Fleisschman to 1 year contracts?
- joescullz


I love the 1 year deal. I don't know how far those two have fallen. I used to love Bergenheim's game.
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