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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:25 PM ET
Under the dome on at 9



- cabin


It has become an awful mess of a show....
Bullet_Bills
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:25 PM ET
At 33 and 34 I can see it and I would pay him the $8 million. Not to mention the previous 5 years of being a 75-85 point player, maybe even more playing with a real center for the first time in his career.
- Stripes77


This year's Art Ross winner had 83 points. That's what the top guys get, I doubt Kessel gets close to that playing with either the Sabres or Leafs next year and at 27 would expect his point production to stay at the 65ish (which isn't far off from the 24yr old ROR) range he's at now or drop.
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Jun 25 @ 9:26 PM ET
What was yours???? I have been saying for 3 pages now that kessel is not worth 8 million when he is 33-34 years old. you then brought up how iginla did it and said you would take 50 pts around that age. Iginla makes 5.5 million, that's good production at that salary. If he was getting paid 8 million like kessel will be at 34 that's bad.
- Fattony1187


I'm not really sure what you are on about. someone mentioned Iginla being 39 and having a drop in production. I simply posted he is 37 and still putting up great numbers. I never mentioned Kessel. No one is arguing that Kessel isn't worth 8 mill at 33-34, at least not me. 10 years from now, ROR being paid upwards of 7/8 million still putting up 50 points is going to be comparable to Iginla's 60 points at 5 million.

I is still teh cofused.
Bullet_Bills
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:27 PM ET
Me and a few others (MHP) have been preaching 31 for Lack would be a good deal. Got pooped on by a few. I definitely don't want to get in a bidding war for Talbot. Much rather do nothing and sign one of the half decent FA's on July 1.
- SabreWest


Lack and Bieksa for 31+, just a hunch.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 25 @ 9:28 PM ET
There is a huge difference between a 25 year old player who plays a great 2 way game, has never seen much powerplay time, still puts up 50+ points a year, hasn't entered his prime than a 35+ year old guy who still manages to put up great numbers on 1 and 2 year deals. I'd take ROR all day and pay him 7 a year for it. That's just the economics of it.
- DynamicThreads

7 years at $7.5 million per will look like a steal in 4 years
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 25 @ 9:29 PM ET
20 goals and 35 assists for an $8 million player when the cap will be $80 million plus in 7 years will be a bargain...
- Stripes77


The NHL better figure out how to make more money for it to be $80M+, isn't the only reason its $71M this year is due to the NHLPA exercising some 5% option. Still not sure how that works exactly.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 25 @ 9:29 PM ET
I'm not really sure what you are on about. someone mentioned Iginla being 39 and having a drop in production. I simply posted he is 37 and still putting up great numbers. I never mentioned Kessel. No one is arguing that Kessel isn't worth 8 mill at 33-34, at least not me. 10 years from now, ROR being paid upwards of 7/8 million still putting up 50 points is going to be comparable to Iginla's 60 points at 5 million.

I is still teh cofused.

- DynamicThreads


People were trying to defend kessel's "bargain" contract by saying he will still be a bargain at 34 years old because iginla was good at 34 years old. You walked into middle of it I assume by saying your confused unknowingly. Why I said iginla production is fine beacause he makes 5.5 million, not 8 like kessel still will at 34
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Jun 25 @ 9:29 PM ET
7 years at $7.5 million per will look like a steal in 4 years
- Pierceme69


10 years from now, ROR being paid upwards of 7/8 million still putting up 50 points is going to be comparable to Iginla's 60 points at 5 million.


Pretty much what I just said, agreed.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 9:30 PM ET
Lack and Bieksa for 31+, just a hunch.
- Bullet_Bills


Lack and Bieksa for 51 and Weber. Hell yeah
JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Edge...The only people who really know where it is have gone over
Joined: 09.06.2012

Jun 25 @ 9:30 PM ET
Under the dome on at 9



- cabin


Think I'll stick to watching Banshee on Amazon Prime for the night...

I tried watching that show (under the dome) for about 2 episodes before I gave up
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Jun 25 @ 9:30 PM ET
People were trying to defend kessel's "bargain" contract by saying he will still be a bargain at 34 years old because iginla was good at 34 years old. You walked into middle of it I assume by saying your confused unknowingly. Why I said iginla production is fine beacause he makes 5.5 million, not 8 like kessel still will at 34
- Fattony1187


reed more post lest
Bullet_Bills
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:30 PM ET
Kessel's career shooting % is 10.8, ROR is 10.2, just in case anyone cares.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:31 PM ET
Think I'll stick to watching Banshee on Amazon Prime for the night...

I tried watching that show (under the dome) for about 2 episodes before I gave up

- JCSabs06

It's bad...
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Jun 25 @ 9:32 PM ET
Think I'll stick to watching Banshee on Amazon Prime for the night...

I tried watching that show (under the dome) for about 2 episodes before I gave up

- JCSabs06


Anyone watch that Sense8 on netflix?

They lost me at the orgy. Kinky show but not enough actually going on. Lost interest and doubt I'll go back.
Bullet_Bills
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:33 PM ET
Lack and Bieksa for 51 and Weber. Hell yeah
- TheSabresTaco


Would love to unload Weber... and Hodgson... and, even though I think he could be good, Grigorenko because he has been a headache and so mishandled by the organization.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 25 @ 9:33 PM ET
The NHL better figure out how to make more money for it to be $80M+, isn't the only reason its $71M this year is due to the NHLPA exercising some 5% option. Still not sure how that works exactly.
- BigStew


That $500 million expansion fee per team helps a ton...
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:33 PM ET
Lack and Bieksa for 31+, just a hunch.
- Bullet_Bills


Not too sure what Bieksa does for us? 34 years old, mediocre stats, not sure if he's left or righthanded shot?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 9:34 PM ET
Went to see Jurassic World...
Pretty decent, but not amazing. You'll like it if u liked the others. Sequel definitely coming.


I saw Soderberg's rights to the AVs...
Did I miss anything else?
What's the word on the streets? Lol
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 25 @ 9:34 PM ET
This year's Art Ross winner had 83 points. That's what the top guys get, I doubt Kessel gets close to that playing with either the Sabres or Leafs next year and at 27 would expect his point production to stay at the 65ish (which isn't far off from the 24yr old ROR) range he's at now or drop.
- Bullet_Bills


Yes and the last 4 seasons including last years bad season Kessel averages .95 ppg...
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 25 @ 9:35 PM ET
Kessel's career shooting % is 10.8, ROR is 10.2, just in case anyone cares.
- Bullet_Bills

Yea how many goals do each score?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 25 @ 9:35 PM ET
Anyone watch that Sense8 on netflix?

They lost me at the orgy. Kinky show but not enough actually going on. Lost interest and doubt I'll go back.

- DynamicThreads


Yes. I watch it every time I go to the gym. I'm on the 4th episode. It gets good at the end of 3. Hang in there.
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Jun 25 @ 9:37 PM ET
Yes. I watch it every time I go to the gym. I'm on the 4th episode. It gets good at the end of 3. Hang in there.
- TheSabresTaco



I got to about the 7th episode. It got good then just kind of lost it but the Wachowskis didn't direct a few of the episodes toward the end.

It's like watching the episodes of Twin Peaks that David Lynch didn't direct.
Bullet_Bills
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:38 PM ET
Not too sure what Bieksa does for us? 34 years old, mediocre stats, not sure if he's left or righthanded shot?
- turbo044


Salary dump for VAN, helps us to the floor without long-term commitment, only making 2mil in actual salary, solid player who can help mentor a young D core.

Also he may fill a hole made by the impending ROR trade.

Side note: Elliotte Friedman says the Sharks are very interested in Bieksa. My hunch could be very wrong.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 25 @ 9:42 PM ET
Any word on who we may be talking to in terms of UFA's. Wasn't today the beginning of that period?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 25 @ 9:42 PM ET
Salary dump for VAN, helps us to the floor without long-term commitment, only making 2mil in actual salary, solid player who can help mentor a young D core.

Also he may fill a hole made by the impending ROR trade.

Side note: Elliotte Friedman says the Sharks are very interested in Bieksa. My hunch could be very wrong.

- Bullet_Bills


even before this sharks tid bit i can't see bieksa waving to come here.
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