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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:41 PM ET


look at seravalli with the boys!
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:43 PM ET
I don't see anyone at #3 that has as much proven value to Flyers that Couturier has already established. Not to mention he still has the potential to be much better than he is today.
- Baxter27


Strome/Marner > Couturier

IMHO TBH IMO
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:43 PM ET
I wonder if the rights to Gus would be included in any deal for the #3 pick?
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:43 PM ET
Folin, Reilly, must be nice plucking young NHL caliber dmen for nothing
- Just5

Hey we got Gustafsson. But seriously, Matt Read's been a nice find despite this past season. Not a defenseman, but still a good player that cost nothing at the time.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:45 PM ET
I don't see anyone at #3 that has as much proven value to Flyers that Couturier has already established. Not to mention he still has the potential to be much better than he is today.
- Baxter27


whoa
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:45 PM ET
I don't see anyone at #3 that has as much proven value to Flyers that Couturier has already established. Not to mention he still has the potential to be much better than he is today.
- Baxter27


I like Couturier a lot, but the #3 pick in this draft would be a good return for him, whether you took Marner or Hanifin.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:45 PM ET
Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline 2m2 minutes ago

And now it seems possibility of a #Bruins trade of Dougie Hamilton to #Coyotes is picking up steam. Would include No. 3 pick in return.

- Winning


HOLY poop, if that's true -- and again, that's an "if"

I have read that for whatever reason, they might not want to pay Hamilton

That is crazy as (frank), IF, again IF, true
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:46 PM ET
I don't see anyone at #3 that has as much proven value to Flyers that Couturier has already established. Not to mention he still has the potential to be much better than he is today.
- Baxter27

Ha.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:47 PM ET
HOLY poop, if that's true -- and again, that's an "if"

I have read that for whatever reason, they might not want to pay Hamilton

That is crazy as (frank), IF, again IF, true

- AllInForFlyers

They sooner move Lucic than let a D man like that go.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:47 PM ET
HOLY poop, if that's true -- and again, that's an "if"

I have read that for whatever reason, they might not want to pay Hamilton

That is crazy as (frank), IF, again IF, true

- AllInForFlyers

all this speculation... it would be funny if AZ just keeps the pick and takes hanifin
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:48 PM ET
HOLY poop, if that's true -- and again, that's an "if"

I have read that for whatever reason, they might not want to pay Hamilton

That is crazy as (frank), IF, again IF, true

- AllInForFlyers


I think most are thinking its a scare tactic to the dougie camp to start getting reasonable or he'll get sent to the desert.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:50 PM ET
all this speculation... it would be funny if AZ just keeps the pick and takes hanifin
- Marc D

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:52 PM ET
Grossmann for Devil's 41 pick

(e1)

Source: me


- Streit2ThePoint


The Flyers couldn't put MacDonald, L. Schenn, or Grossman with their # 29 pick, and move up to # 28.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:54 PM ET
The Flyers couldn't put MacDonald, L. Schenn, or Grossman with their # 29 pick, and move up to # 28.
- PLindbergh31


Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:55 PM ET
They sooner move Lucic than let a D man like that go.
- hereticpride


Lucic only has a year left, so maybe they're nervous about his new contract demands.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:55 PM ET
I like Couturier a lot, but the #3 pick in this draft would be a good return for him, whether you took Marner or Hanifin.
- Feanor


In terms of value I would agree, but you don't make a trade on value alone. There is a ton of risk in trading a player who will not be easily replaced and plays a critical role on your team for a draft pick with any uncertainity for success. After McDavid and Eichel there are question marks around every prospect in the draft.

When the Flyers traded for Brayden Schenn he was ranked the number 1 prospect in all of hockey, has he found consistency yet?

Before and after Tampa took Drouin 3rd overall in 2013 some experts were ready to declare him the best player in the draft. Does that still seem justified?
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:57 PM ET
Strome/Marner > Couturier

IMHO TBH IMO

- Streit2ThePoint


I would say Couturier was more accomplished at 18 than either at the junior level, so I would disagree.
Duane B
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: off to see the wizzard. the w, PA
Joined: 12.02.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:00 PM ET
Couts for the #3

book it

- Crimsoninja

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:03 PM ET


look at seravalli with the boys!

- Marc D


Looking svelte. With that gray hair of his, call him Paulie Donuts.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:05 PM ET
In terms of value I would agree, but you don't make a trade on value alone. There is a ton of risk in trading a player who will not be easily replaced and plays a critical role on your team for a draft pick with any uncertainity for success. After McDavid and Eichel there are question marks around every prospect in the draft.

When the Flyers traded for Brayden Schenn he was ranked the number 1 prospect in all of hockey, has he found consistency yet?

Before and after Tampa took Drouin 3rd overall in 2013 some experts were ready to declare him the best player in the draft. Does that still seem justified?

- Baxter27



Great points, I agree. The draftees are shiny new toys so to speak. If they want Couturier in the deal for the 3rd pick, I wouldn't be willing to include any of the top defense prospects.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:07 PM ET
The year of the OV

If the Flyers manage to get Provorov without giving up assets and some how manage to move up from#29 (or have them fall to #29) to grab Svechnikov or Guryanov.

I'm set for the weekend.

Make it happen Hextall!
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:07 PM ET
Thanks Bill. Do you think that MDZ is not happy with the Flyers since Ek is saying that they might be headed towards arbitration? I am thinking that he might be harboring some ill feelings towards the way that he was benched earlier on last season. I am hoping that Hexy can dump some salary, and players in order to resign MDZ, but we might end up having to trade his rights. He finished strong last season, so I would hate to see him go, but this is a business after all.
- OrangeAndBlack1


No ill feelings. Just wants to get paid. Honestly, MDZ is the type of player who very easily could spend much of his career in and out of the doghouse -- as has been his story thus far.

Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 26 @ 2:08 PM ET
I wonder if the rights to Gus would be included in any deal for the #3 pick?
- rinaldo


There is very little interest among NHL teams in Gus. He is basically considered a dime-a-dozen fringe AHL/NHL defenseman, fairly or unfairly.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:09 PM ET
No ill feelings. Just wants to get paid. Honestly, MDZ is the type of player who very easily could spend much of his career in and out of the doghouse -- as has been his story thus far.
- bmeltzer


It's time to start playing hardball with these borderline players.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:09 PM ET
No ill feelings. Just wants to get paid. Honestly, MDZ is the type of player who very easily could spend much of his career in and out of the doghouse -- as has been his story thus far.
- bmeltzer


It's time to start playing hardball with these borderline players.
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