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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:10 PM ET
There is very little interest among NHL teams in Gus. He is basically considered a dime-a-dozen fringe AHL/NHL defenseman, fairly or unfairly.
- bmeltzer


Gus is Danny Syvret Jr. Someone once traded a current first line player on a perennial 100 point team for Danny Syvret.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
But at least with Kane and Lehner, you know they're (good) NHL players. Eichel, you might as well lump him in there, too. And they're all 23-yo and under.

21st and 25th-overall in a deep draft are valuable... and I'm a bigger believer in building through the draft as anyone here... but you're essentially rolling the dice on 17/18-yo's and you could still come up empty on one or both picks. And even if you hit, are you sure you're gonna get a player better than Kane? Lehner?

And say they took Samsonov with that 21st-overall instead of trading the pick... they'd essentially be waiting another 4-5 years for him to get to the exact same place in development that Lehner is at right now.

There's risk either way... I think Murray actually took the safer path here.

- Tomahawk


And the more expensive one. But Buffalo has a little cap space to spare...
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:20 PM ET
Mike Fisher 2 years 8.8M total

Tyler Toffoli 2 years 6.5M total
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
Macko And Cauz ‏@MackoAndCauz 2h2 hours ago

ICYMI: @jonasTSN1050 says it'll come down to Mitch Marner or Noah Hanifin for #Leafs at No. 4: http://www.tsn.ca/radio/t...n-hanifin-marner-1.318602
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:29 PM ET
Gus is Danny Syvret Jr. Someone once traded a current first line player on a perennial 100 point team for Danny Syvret.
- PLindbergh31


Didn't that same perenial 100 point team just let the other first line LW walk into free agency?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 26 @ 2:31 PM ET
But at least with Kane and Lehner, you know they're (good) NHL players. Eichel, you might as well lump him in there, too. And they're all 23-yo and under.

21st and 25th-overall in a deep draft are valuable... and I'm a bigger believer in building through the draft as anyone here... but you're essentially rolling the dice on 17/18-yo's and you could still come up empty on one or both picks. And even if you hit, are you sure you're gonna get a player better than Kane? Lehner?

And say they took Samsonov with that 21st-overall instead of trading the pick... they'd essentially be waiting another 4-5 years for him to get to the exact same place in development that Lehner is at right now.

There's risk either way... I think Murray actually took the safer path here.

- Tomahawk


Well said...truthfully, I can't really argue against that point of view, and won't, because those three players really are talented, and we have seen it from two of them in the league
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:32 PM ET
Didn't that same perenial 100 point team just let the other first line LW walk into free agency?
- Baxter27


Remember how good Randy Jones was....
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:34 PM ET
Remember how good Randy Jones was....
- Glak18


Really?

Get a life.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:34 PM ET
if hamilton gets the 3rd overall and cooter doesn't we know we took the wrong player
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 26 @ 2:36 PM ET
Dougie Hamilton/Sean Couturier comparisons:

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 2:37 PM ET
I hope Hamilton and Savard go to Arizona for the #3.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:37 PM ET
Macko And Cauz ‏@MackoAndCauz 2h2 hours ago

ICYMI: @jonasTSN1050 says it'll come down to Mitch Marner or Noah Hanifin for #Leafs at No. 4: http://www.tsn.ca/radio/t...n-hanifin-marner-1.318602

- Winning

1. McDavid
2. Eichel
3. Hanifin/Strome
4. Hanifin/Strome
5. Marner
6. Zacha
7. ???

I think if a team moves up to 3-5 and takes Provorov, that's where things could get very interesting. I'm just happy it's finally draft day/night.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:37 PM ET
Really?

Get a life.

- Baxter27


Wow you're weird.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:38 PM ET
Really?

Get a life.

- Baxter27


I remember how much the team paid him to be average..
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:39 PM ET
1. McDavid
2. Eichel
3. Hanifin/Strome
4. Hanifin/Strome
5. Marner
6. Zacha
7. ???

I think if a team moves up to 3-5 and takes Provorov, that's where things could get very interesting. I'm just happy it's finally draft day/night.

- five4fighting10



Me too.. I'd be happy with Provorov..
ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ardmore, PA
Joined: 01.04.2013

Jun 26 @ 2:39 PM ET
Wow you're weird.
- Glak18


Hey don't talk to Randy Jones's brother like that!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:39 PM ET
1. McDavid
2. Eichel
3. Hanifin/Strome
4. Hanifin/Strome
5. Marner
6. Zacha
7. ???

I think if a team moves up to 3-5 and takes Provorov, that's where things could get very interesting. I'm just happy it's finally draft day/night.

- five4fighting10


I think NJ is the wildcard, they are going to dictate who the Flyers get. Not sure why so many mock drafts think Zacha is locked for NJ.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:39 PM ET
Dougie Hamilton/Sean Couturier comparisons:


- johndewar


The horse wants it's revenge
Duane B
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: off to see the wizzard. the w, PA
Joined: 12.02.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:39 PM ET
Dougie Hamilton/Sean Couturier comparisons:


- johndewar

FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:40 PM ET
Nice job on WIP, Bill
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:40 PM ET
Hey don't talk to Randy Jones's brother like that!
- ThirdEye


I never knew that was Rodney Jones, I basically just thought we were throwing out crappy Flyer names.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:41 PM ET
if hamilton gets the 3rd overall and cooter doesn't we know we took the wrong player
- 2Real


You mean if the Bruins are willing to trade Hamilton for the #3 and the Flyers aren't willing to trade Coots for #3, we got the wrong player?

Also, these guys have been in the league for, what, 4 years now? Coming directly into the NHL at 18? Get back to me in 3-4 years supertuff.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:41 PM ET
You mean if the Bruins are willing to trade Hamilton for the #3 and the Flyers aren't willing to trade Coots for #3, we got the wrong player?

Also, these guys have been in the league for, what, 4 years now? Coming directly into the NHL at 18? Get back to me in 3-4 years supertuff.

- jmatchett383

if you don't think #3 will be better than cooter then wow just wow
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:41 PM ET

columbus has 4th pick
toronto has 8th

five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
Me too.. I'd be happy with Provorov..
- Hextall271

I'd be very happy with Provorov and a handful of others. I don't want to get my hopes up on one player, but I'm definitely leaning that way with Provorov. But won't be disappointed when Hextall announces Zacha, Rantanen, Connor, etc's name.
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