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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 26 @ 10:38 AM ET
Are the Flyers only playing the Penguins 3 times next season?
- Trainfellow


4 times

1/21
3/19
4/3
4/9
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jun 26 @ 10:43 AM ET
One day less of cross state commerce, turnpike, gas, hotels, cheesteaks or permanti sandwiches

For the Pens players visiting Philly one less time, one less day of the Philly wage tax being taken out..
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:43 AM ET
Simmonds to EDM for 1st pick
- all mighty oil


Cool.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:50 AM ET
So, if Ek's rumor of #7, one forward prospect, and one defensive prospect is true, I don't like it. I know I may be in the minority, but I'm still high on Hagg and Ghost, and I wouldn't move either of Morin or Sanheim. Subsequently, I wouldn't want to move any of Luaghon, NAK, or Fazleev either. Just (frank)ing stay at 7.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:51 AM ET
Schenn, Hagg, #7 for #3?

Not sure I'm a fan of trading up in this draft... unless they have a major hard on for Hanifin.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:51 AM ET
flyers first 3 picks

provorv #7
bittner #29
tomek #61

Boom Botta Bing
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:52 AM ET
4 times

1/21
3/19
4/3
4/9

- Streit2ThePoint


Thanks. CSN had only 3 dates posted
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:52 AM ET
Schenn, Hagg, #7 for #3?

Not sure I'm a fan of trading up in this draft... unless they have a major hard on for Hanifin.

- flyguy12


If they're moving up to #3 (which I don't agree with) they better be picking Marner. I like Provorov and all, but Marner is the better player at this point, all things considered.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 26 @ 10:52 AM ET
So, if Ek's rumor of #7, one forward prospect, and one defensive prospect is true, I don't like it. I know I may be in the minority, but I'm still high on Hagg and Ghost, and I wouldn't move either of Morin or Sanheim. Subsequently, I wouldn't want to move any of Luaghon, NAK, or Fazleev either. Just (frank)ing stay at 7.
- jmatchett383


nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:53 AM ET
i've never read anyone saying anything close to that
- -davies-

I guess I was more asking than telling
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:53 AM ET
So, if Ek's rumor of #7, one forward prospect, and one defensive prospect is true, I don't like it. I know I may be in the minority, but I'm still high on Hagg and Ghost, and I wouldn't move either of Morin or Sanheim. Subsequently, I wouldn't want to move any of Luaghon, NAK, or Fazleev either. Just (frank)ing stay at 7.
- jmatchett383



If Hanifan or Provorov are thought to be that game changing all situations player who controls the game, I do it. I'd rather give up Ghostisbehere, or if I have to Morin, and keep Sanheim, but I have to make the deal if that is who they're looking at. I wouldn't do it for a forward. That kind of player similar to Duncan Keith or Drew Doughty is everything in today's game.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:53 AM ET
4 times.

The NHL screwed up the Eastern alignment just so Pitt and Philly could play one extra game per season.

- Feanor


Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Each team plays some inter-conference rivals 4 times and some 5 times.

Since the realignment, the Flyers have played the Hurricanes, their huge rival, 5 times every season, while playing the Penguins, who they have no rivalry with, 4 times.

Is that right? Because if so, what the (frank)?
MatveiDmitrii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 01.16.2015

Jun 26 @ 10:54 AM ET
So, if Ek's rumor of #7, one forward prospect, and one defensive prospect is true, I don't like it. I know I may be in the minority, but I'm still high on Hagg and Ghost, and I wouldn't move either of Morin or Sanheim. Subsequently, I wouldn't want to move any of Luaghon, NAK, or Fazleev either. Just (frank)ing stay at 7.
- jmatchett383


I can't imagine you being the only one. I don't like it either. Hell, they could fall back in the top 15 and still get a quality player.

As much as we all love Provorov, I don't think we HAVE to have him. That's assuming this is the guy Hextall loves. Personally I would take Marner at 3.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 26 @ 10:54 AM ET
If Hanifan or Provorov are thought to be that game changing all situaitons player who controls the game, I do it. I'd rather give up Ghostisbehere, or if I have to Morin, and keep Sanheim, but I have to make the deal if that is who they're looking at. I wouldn't do it for a forward. That kind of player similar to Duncan Keith or Drew Doughty is everything in today's game.
- MJL


We may not always agree, but I'm with you on this point

IF, and I repeat IF, you project a guy to be something, and you believe it as an organization, do what you gotta do, if you can
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:55 AM ET
If Hanifan or Provorov are thought to be that game changing all situations player who controls the game, I do it. I'd rather give up Ghostisbehere, or if I have to Morin, and keep Sanheim, but I have to make the deal if that is who they're looking at. I wouldn't do it for a forward. That kind of player similar to Duncan Keith or Drew Doughty is everything in today's game.
- MJL


Completely agree.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:55 AM ET
If they're moving up to #3 (which I don't agree with) they better be picking Marner. I like Provorov and all, but Marner is the better player at this point, all things considered.
- jmatchett383


Not sure about the teams, GMs, and scouts, but the pundits/mock drafts don't have a consensus at #3, so trading assets to get there doesn't make much sense to me.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:56 AM ET
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
- jmatchett383


Do you really have to say that here?



Each team plays some inter-conference rivals 4 times and some 5 times.

Since the realignment, the Flyers have played the Hurricanes, their huge rival, 5 times every season, while playing the Penguins, who they have no rivalry with, 4 times.

Is that right? Because if so, what the (frank)?


Conspiracy.

Flyers lose to crappy teams so the league schedules them more against crappy teams.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:57 AM ET
If Hanifan or Provorov are thought to be that game changing all situations player who controls the game, I do it. I'd rather give up Ghostisbehere, or if I have to Morin, and keep Sanheim, but I have to make the deal if that is who they're looking at. I wouldn't do it for a forward. That kind of player similar to Duncan Keith or Drew Doughty is everything in today's game.
- MJL


While I agree with your premise (basically, would you trade that package for the next Hedman), I don't think either of them are that player. I think they are very good players, but they don't come with the expectations that were heaped upon Ekblad and Seth Jones. That may be because all of the focus was on McDavid and Eichel, but I just think that's too hefty a price. Just my opinion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:57 AM ET
Not sure about the teams, GMs, and scouts, but the pundits/mock drafts don't have a consensus at #3, so trading assets to get there doesn't make much sense to me.
- wolfhounds


I wouldn't place much weight on pundits and mock drafts. If the Flyers can get a top stud 2 way defenseman by moving up, can't afford ot not do it.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:58 AM ET
If Hanifan or Provorov are thought to be that game changing all situations player who controls the game, I do it. I'd rather give up Ghostisbehere, or if I have to Morin, and keep Sanheim, but I have to make the deal if that is who they're looking at. I wouldn't do it for a forward. That kind of player similar to Duncan Keith or Drew Doughty is everything in today's game.
- MJL


The interesting part of the dicsussion to me is that, although we really do need to get a LW becasue it's an organizational need, it's easier to fill that slot through trade etc than it is to get a stud dman. I was on the draft a forward train, but if they really feel provorov is going to be a stud and add him to the pile with Ghost, Morin, Sanheim, then I see the reasoning and am ok with that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:58 AM ET
Do you really have to say that here?



Conspiracy.

Flyers lose to crappy teams so the league schedules them more against crappy teams.

- Scoob


I'm not saying it's a conspiracy at all, it just seems like bad planning from the NHL. Which doesn't surprise me.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 10:59 AM ET
While I agree with your premise (basically, would you trade that package for the next Hedman), I don't think either of them are that player. I think they are very good players, but they don't come with the expectations that were heaped upon Ekblad and Seth Jones. That may be because all of the focus was on McDavid and Eichel, but I just think that's too hefty a price. Just my opinion.
- jmatchett383



That's the subjective thing about it. The Flyers may think that they are. And who knows, maybe their target is a forward, I don't know. Getting that franchise defenseman sets you up for years.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:59 AM ET
The interesting part of the dicsussion to me is that, although we really do need to get a LW becasue it's an organizational need, it's easier to fill that slot through trade etc than it is to get a stud dman. I was on the draft a forward train, but if they really feel provorov is going to be a stud and add him to the pile with Ghost, Morin, Sanheim, then I see the reasoning and am ok with that.
- Hextall271


But what if they have to subtract from that pile, plus subtract more assets, to get him? At what point is too much too much?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:00 AM ET
The interesting part of the dicsussion to me is that, although we really do need to get a LW becasue it's an organizational need, it's easier to fill that slot through trade etc than it is to get a stud dman. I was on the draft a forward train, but if they really feel provorov is going to be a stud and add him to the pile with Ghost, Morin, Sanheim, then I see the reasoning and am ok with that.
- Hextall271



If they're going to move up to the 3rd spot, at least one of those defenseman prospects you name, will no longer be Flyers property, most likely.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:01 AM ET
That's the subjective thing about it. The Flyers may think that they are. And who knows, maybe their target is a forward, I don't know. Getting that franchise defenseman sets you up for years.
- MJL


To me, every year, there is a guessing game based around all but a few picks. I mean, Ekblad probably surpassed his projections, and Zach Bogosian hasn't really met his yet, although he's a very good player. I'd really hate to give up all of that, and end up with another Zach Bogosian. He's a good player, but not worthy of that haul (to me).
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