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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:02 AM ET
But what if they have to subtract from that pile, plus subtract more assets, to get him? At what point is too much too much?
- jmatchett383



Good question. I wouldn't necessarily subtract from the pile.. If it means we give up something less or he's there when we get to 7, then go for the dman. That's all I am saying.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:02 AM ET
That's the subjective thing about it. The Flyers may think that they are. And who knows, maybe their target is a forward, I don't know. Getting that franchise defenseman sets you up for years.
- MJL


and adding to their current stockpile of D prospects only increases that possibility. DO NOT trade up for a forward. They come along much more frequently. If Flyers feel there's a Dman in this draft better than what they have in the pipeline and they can get him, then go for it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:02 AM ET
If they're going to move up to the 3rd spot, at least one of those defenseman prospects you name, will no longer be Flyers property, most likely.
- MJL


Right now, how would you rank Hagg, Ghost, and Morin, in order of most valuable to the Flyers to least (assuming Sanheim is at the top)?

P.S. If they move Sanheim, I will be (frank)ing pissed.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 26 @ 11:03 AM ET
I hope they don't draft Hanifin, if only so we can stop seeing his name misspelled on here so much.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:03 AM ET
If they're going to move up to the 3rd spot, at least one of those defenseman prospects you name, will no longer be Flyers property, most likely.
- MJL


That's a real gamble then. Gotta be sure before I do that. One thing I will say, is that I believe the reports that Hexy was all in to get Ekblad last year and that it wouldn't be shocking to me if he traded up to get a dman.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:04 AM ET
and adding to their current stockpile of D prospects only increases that possibility. DO NOT trade up for a forward. They come along much more frequently. If Flyers feel there's a Dman in this draft better than what they have in the pipeline and they can get him, then go for it.
- flyguy12


I think the Coyotes would take Marner at 3. Which means, in order to secure Provorov/Hanifin, we'd have to either a) get into a bidding war with another team for a dman or b) trade with Toronto for the #4 overall pick. Not a fan of either.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 26 @ 11:05 AM ET
I hope they don't draft Hanifin, if only so we can stop seeing his name misspelled on here so much.
- Tomahawk


Isn't Hanfin supposed to be better than Properov?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:05 AM ET
I hope they don't draft Hanifin, if only so we can stop seeing his name misspelled on here so much.
- Tomahawk


I miss Vanrimsdike and Perella.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:05 AM ET
Isn't Hanfin supposed to be better than Properov?
- Streit2ThePoint


Depends who you asked and what day it is.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:06 AM ET
I'm not saying it's a conspiracy at all, it just seems like bad planning from the NHL. Which doesn't surprise me.
- jmatchett383


Maybe it's a travel thing. If they're heading south to play the FL teams, or Washington, throw Carolina in there, too. Conversely, if Carolina is heading north to play Washington or any of the NY metro teams, throw Philly in there, too.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:08 AM ET
Depends who you asked and what day it is.
- jmatchett383


What does the magical black book say?
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:09 AM ET
Right now, how would you rank Hagg, Ghost, and Morin, in order of most valuable to the Flyers to least (assuming Sanheim is at the top)?

P.S. If they move Sanheim, I will be (frank)ing pissed.

- jmatchett383

Homer no longer runs the show
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:10 AM ET
What does the magical black book say?
- Scoob


My magic 8 ball says "Chances are good," that Provorov is better. However, it also told me that "Signs point to no," when I asked if I'll have my cable restored by the time the draft starts, so I'm hoping it's wrong.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:10 AM ET
What does the magical black book say?
- Scoob

Blackwood
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:10 AM ET
Homer no longer runs the show
- vejim


Well, according to the almighty Ek, one of the 4 is on the chopping block.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:11 AM ET
So, if Ek's rumor of #7, one forward prospect, and one defensive prospect is true, I don't like it. I know I may be in the minority, but I'm still high on Hagg and Ghost, and I wouldn't move either of Morin or Sanheim. Subsequently, I wouldn't want to move any of Luaghon, NAK, or Fazleev either. Just (frank)ing stay at 7.
- jmatchett383



EXACTLY my thoughts. I will be so pissed if they give up any assets. they aren't overflowing with prospects enough to move 2 of them in my opinion but what do I know. the only trades I want to see is to move the overflow on defense or the impossible in umberger, Vinny, etc
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:12 AM ET
Well, according to the almighty Ek, one of the 4 is on the chopping block.
- jmatchett383

who leaked that to EK?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:13 AM ET
who leaked that to EK?
- vejim


He's above the law.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:13 AM ET
My magic 8 ball says "Chances are good," that Provorov is better. However, it also told me that "Signs point to no," when I asked if I'll have my cable restored by the time the draft starts, so I'm hoping it's wrong.
- jmatchett383


What channel is it on? NBCSports streams live so you might be in luck if they're showing it.

Edit - or you could come to my house. I won't be watching so the TV will be free.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:19 AM ET
EXACTLY my thoughts. I will be so pissed if they give up any assets. they aren't overflowing with prospects enough to move 2 of them in my opinion but what do I know. the only trades I want to see is to move the overflow on defense or the impossible in umberger, Vinny, etc
- nastyflyergirl


Yeah, that's what I am leaning towards as well, but I also wouldn't be surprised if a move is made as I think Hexy will try to be aggressive if it makes sense.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 26 @ 11:19 AM ET
Organizationally, I just don't think the Flyers are deep enough to be trying to expend assets to move up in a draft where, if they stay put (or even move back a bit), they can still get a high end talent.

Maybe next year they can do something like that, after they draft everyone they are going to draft this year and replenish the organization, but I don't think this is the year.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:25 AM ET
Sorry philly. Your dreams of provorov will get crushed when we trade down to CBJ and they snatch him away right before your eyes. Don't worry though, I hear Werenski is good
- rawwdogg88

sorry your dreams of having an NHL team will go away because you can't get a steady stream of fans
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 26 @ 11:26 AM ET
draft provorov or crouse and call it a day
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 26 @ 11:34 AM ET
Who are the prospects in Eks rumor about the flyers getting to #3?

I'd guess Laughton and ghost and 7.

If it means provorov the. I'd do it. If their that high on him
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 26 @ 11:38 AM ET
I guess I was more asking than telling
- nails


i got you, i have no idea, maybe one of the obsessive types in here could answer that
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