That 1st round pick has a lot of value. Murray's not an idiot. He knows a lot of things we don't.

This looks bad now, but I'm still confident he knows wtf is going on.

I thought everyone loved Irbe and that any goaltender would be good with him as their coach?

That's what we said about Raycroft.

Sorry, my Buffalo brothers.
- Atomic Wedgie

Situation varies per guy. But I see your point. We're hopeful a different outcome occurs.

Tell me, in your opinion, how it is a good trade. If Lehner can come in and win 40 games I'll eat crow and admit I was wrong but I see no part of his track record that says that's going to happen. Unless Murray has a crystal ball and has already seen it happen I think he got fleeced because he had to deal with the people he knows.

And as for Legwand, I don't even know where to start
- Zschalberg

I never said it was a good trade. I am reserving judgement until i have a bit more information. Or at least until the trade is official. Or until I hear Murrays reasoning at the presser in a bit.

I wonder about that too!!!
- Sabresfan88

This is two overpayments by tm. I didn't mind the last one because we got a top line player. But this one pisses me off. Lehner should have only been worth the 51.

"I always thought incest was illegal in NY until Tim Murray just got bent over by his uncle'

That 1st round pick has a lot of value. Murray's not an idiot. He knows a lot of things we don't.

This looks bad now, but I'm still confident he knows wtf is going on.
- TheSabresTaco

OK.
You KEEP writing this BS excuse.
How do you justify this????
Well, sorry to say this, he BECAME an idiot after this trade!

I don't know whether to cry or throw up. I think this has even ruined Eichel day for me. I would actually be alright if Pegula was on the phone with Murray right now telling him to hand in his resignation.
- sskkoo1

Overreact much?

To me, we don't even need a goalie this year!!!
- Sabresfan88

This x 1000

I never said it was a good trade. I am reserving judgement until i have a bit more information. Or at least until the trade is official. Or until I hear Murrays reasoning at the presser in a bit.
- bjm1717

And that's fine, but I'm not reserving that judgement. I'll judge based on what I've already seen of him. What I've seen hasn't impressed me, so I'm not thrilled about the trade.

Actually we just set the market. Congrats Tim
- sbroads24

I'd have to think Sather will get a 1st for Talbot now.

OK.
You KEEP writing this BS excuse.
How do you justify this????
Well, sorry to say this, he BECAME an idiot after this trade!
- Sabresfan88

How do I (frank)ing justify it? Because we have no choice. That's why.

It's optimism, and you can either wallow in your (frank)ing tears or you can look up, hold the (frank) on and wait for him to grow into what most scouts think he can be.

I'm so sick of hearing how "this is the market price and what you have to pay". You know what smart investors do when the market is ridiculously high? Wait until it comes down again.

Fill me in, trade, thoughts

I understand some not liking the general overreaction, but this is a bad trade all day, every day and I don't see how there is even a debate about that.

That 1st round pick has a lot of value. Murray's not an idiot. He knows a lot of things we don't.

This looks bad now, but I'm still confident he knows wtf is going on.
- TheSabresTaco

100% agree.

This x 1000
- LamontSanford

That's not the point. This won't ruin the team, but it is throwing away an asset that you could have used to make the team better.

Good lord.... someone just said that maybe Legwand coming in calls that Reinhart might be gone. Girgensons at 1C or 2C and move Reinhart for ROR or other

That 1st round pick has a lot of value. Murray's not an idiot. He knows a lot of things we don't.

This looks bad now, but I'm still confident he knows wtf is going on.
- TheSabresTaco

What can he possibly know that you don't as far as giving up the 21st for Lehner and Legwand?

That 1st round pick has a lot of value. Murray's not an idiot. He knows a lot of things we don't.

This looks bad now, but I'm still confident he knows wtf is going on.
- TheSabresTaco

1) I can't imagine who he was bidding against

2) I would have gone with a UFA if that was the cost

"I always thought incest was illegal in NY until Tim Murray just got bent over by his uncle'



- Zschalberg

They're in Florida.....

Ramo for Free or a first for...(FRANK!)

Murray is on at 11am no? Hope they drill him, as this makes absolutely no sense any way I look at it.

Good lord.... someone just said that maybe Legwand coming in calls that Reinhart might be gone. Girgensons at 1C or 2C and move Reinhart for ROR or other
- JVince11

They need to be euthanized.

I'm so sick of hearing how "this is the market price and what you have to pay". You know what smart investors do when the market is ridiculously high? Wait until it comes down again.
- buffalofan19

Exactly. It isn't like we are cup contenders and we needed that last piece at the deadline.

What is even more mind-boggling is that we also provided cap relief for Ottawa by taking on Legwand.