It's been mentioned by a few reporters how this gives Reinhart a chance to be groomed more which he shouldn't need to do. I don't want a bum getting 2nd line ice time at center who is a mere cap rental when a guy who we drafted 2nd overall last year flounders in terrible ice situations.. Is it assuming? Yes it is but it's also a logical answer for what will probably happen.
- bluengold12

And of course all of the fingers are going to point to this if Reinhardt starts in Rochester...not because that may have been the plan all along...nooooooo, it's because Legwand is so much better.

You're doing something wrong.
- HonkFortheGoose

I was gonna post he's doing it backwards.

Pierre LeBrun retweeted
Ian Mendes ‏@ian_mendes 8m8 minutes ago

B. Murray on Lehner: "I didn't want to put him in Buffalo I wanted him to go out west, but we couldn't get a deal done to our satisfaction."

tim murray knows Lehner better then all of us combined


that is all I have to add to this conversation

I absolutely hate it. This is literally the last thing I wanted that pick to be spent on.
- sbroads24

It's kind of surprising given his background.

The more and more I look at it... I'm not that mad at all. We are not looking at this in a 3-3-4 year window any more. TM wants to put a playoff contending team on the ice next year. He is taking young and promising players from other teams. If the guys he was getting came with guarantees or surefire then they wouldn't be available for the most part.

Lehner is a young goalie w/ 86 games of experience and a Calder cup. Fits the mold.

Legwand is a bottom 6 vet who is quite good on the dot and can take 2nd line pk duties and such like a Gaustad could. He could also be a good mentor to have around for Eichel to learn the craft of a 2 way center. It's one flipping year and we have a ton of space.

21st pick was house money from Vanek trade. Not crazy about giving it up but I am more in a "now" mood too.

It's been mentioned by a few reporters how this gives Reinhart a chance to be groomed more which he shouldn't need to do. I don't want a bum getting 2nd line ice time at center who is a mere cap rental when a guy who we drafted 2nd overall last year flounders in terrible ice situations.. Is it assuming? Yes it is but it's also a logical answer for what will probably happen.
- bluengold12

He doesn't need time to grow and acclimate? So you're saying when you start a job you just immediately know exactly how things work and it's like you're a seasoned vet there?

Please....each post you seem to put up today is more ludicrous than the prior.

You're doing something wrong.
- HonkFortheGoose

Agreed

And of course all of the fingers are going to point to this if Reinhardt starts in Rochester...not because that may have been the plan all along...nooooooo, it's because Legwand is so much better.
- stashu

No.. Murray said last month he expects Reinhart to start in the NHL now with Legwand taking up a center spot that didn't need to be taken this messes with things.

OMG (not you goose)

for Vanek, a rental, and McCormick we got

Robin Lehner
Matt Moulson (minus a few games)
2015 pick 51
Josh Gorges (2016 wild second rd pick)
Jack Nevins (mitchell trade)
2016 7th round pick (mitchell trade)
Eric Cornel (trade with jets using wild 2014 pick)
Brycen Martin (trade with jets using wild 2014 pick)

I think I followed the trade thread
- homiedclown

So basically Lehner then

Murray said the scouts/team believe they can get a comparable player at 31 and that made 21 expendable.

I was gonna post he's doing it backwards.
- cabin

foot boards work great


oh and


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5hae6PlPYA

tim murray knows Lehner better then all of us combined


that is all I have to add to this conversation
- homiedclown

Don't eat the yellow snow

Don't eat the yellow snow
- SABRES 89

oh my

The more and more I look at it... I'm not that mad at all. We are not looking at this in a 3-3-4 year window any more. TM wants to put a playoff contending team on the ice next year. He is taking young and promising players from other teams. If the guys he was getting came with guarantees or surefire then they wouldn't be available for the most part.

Lehner is a young goalie w/ 86 games of experience and a Calder cup. Fits the mold.

Legwand is a bottom 6 vet who is quite good on the dot and can take 2nd line pk duties and such like a Gaustad could. He could also be a good mentor to have around for Eichel to learn the craft of a 2 way center. It's one flipping year and we have a ton of space.

21st pick was house money from Vanek trade. Not crazy about giving it up but I am more in a "now" mood too.
- JVince11

Is Legwand good at faceoffs? I want a guy that's good at faceoffs. We haven't had one since we traded Gaustad.

Murray said the scouts/team believe they can get a comparable player at 31 and that made 21 expendable.
- Pierceme69

Man, when this GM thing goes south for him, he will be excellent at selling used cars

Except our need for D is a lot less than our need for a goalie and the goalie you get back in trade B is a never going to be an NHL starter.
- HonkFortheGoose

We'll agree to disagree on that one. Markstrom had some injuries he worked through but had an amazing year this season. I think he's the better of the two goalies.

flip side, I would rather give 21 up for Lehner then 31 for lack or talbot
- homiedclown

Me too. I'll take my chances with the age and higher ceiling.

foot boards work great


oh and


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5hae6PlPYA
- homiedclown

tim murray knows Lehner better then all of us combined


that is all I have to add to this conversation
- homiedclown

So we should all delete our accounts and forget about ever talking about hockey again?

flip side, I would rather give 21 up for Lehner then 31 for lack or talbot
- homiedclown

oh my
- homiedclown

Goat Mez

He doesn't need time to grow and acclimate? So you're saying when you start a job you just immediately know exactly how things work and it's like you're a seasoned vet there?

Please....each post you seem to put up today is more ludicrous than the prior.
- HonkFortheGoose

I expected their to be growing pains but I want Reinhart to experience those growing pains with good players. This is going back to the Grigerenko John Scott argument.. If Reinhart is in the NHL and is playing with Foligino and Gionta who have about as much offensive talent as Reinhart does in his pinkie than it will be wasting his valuable learning time. If he starts in AHL it would make no sense because Murray has stated publicly he expects Reinhart to play in the NHL full time this year unless he proves he can't. So let's say Reinhart proves he's NHL ready. Now what do you do... Eichel or Reinhart starting on 4th line gets you nowhere and I doubt Legwand plays there. I just don't like the idea of adding another center. I'd much prefer a cap dump of a d man or winger

Is Legwand good at faceoffs? I want a guy that's good at faceoffs. We haven't had one since we traded Gaustad.
- HonkFortheGoose

46% last year

I want to know how Pegula gave this a green light. Or maybe he's just: