Lehner is more accomplished at this age then Miller was
- homiedclown

Thank you.

If we would have received a prospect instead of Legwand everyone would be jumping for joy but here is the thing. We need some vets and have cap space.

Its a fine deal. You may not love it right now but if Lehner turns out to play very well then we have a goalie for the next 10 years potentially. Enjoy it..we are trying to ice a competitive team for once.

Because you are whining like a child because as you put it "we helped out a team in our division"
- Stripes77

he over-values prospects

No, no the irony is still an Islander fan making fun of any other team's trade.
- Mentalorgasm5

Couldn't you say this about any team? What team hasn't made a string of awful trades

Triangular trade. Legwand Grigorenko #31 for O'Reilley. Legwand being the piece the Avs wanted all along

No, no the irony is still an Islander fan making fun of any other team's trade.
- Mentalorgasm5

I mean they did go to the playoffs last year in part because of their recent trades. Get defensive all you want, but this is our day to feel shame.

Maybe and we'll see. I've tempered my emotions for now, I'm kind of at the point now where I want this day to end and we don't give anything else away.
- Zschalberg

Last time I checked, we got something in return for the pick. TM didn't just call Bryan Murray and say, "Hey, I'm going to gift you my 21st pick."

he over-values prospects
- homiedclown

Which we didn't even give up technically we gave up a potential prospect...who in his eyes would be the best thing ever.

Look there is no issue not liking the trade, I am not a fan but the furthest thing that should matter is "we helped out a team in the division"

Couldn't you say this about any team? What team hasn't made a string of awful trades
- Sabresfan-365

Yea, but it might be harder to find a team that has done worse than the islanders.

he over-values prospects
- homiedclown

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=121933

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=69846

he over-values OUR prospects
- homiedclown

I fixed it

Thank you.

If we would have received a prospect instead of Legwand everyone would be jumping for joy but here is the thing. We need some vets and have cap space.

Its a fine deal. You may not love it right now but if Lehner turns out to play very well then we have a goalie for the next 10 years potentially. Enjoy it..we are trying to ice a competitive team for once.
- Beezer33

Still, he was not worth a 21st overall pick in such a deep draft!

Triangular trade. Legwand Grigorenko #31 for O'Reilley. Legwand being the piece the Avs wanted all along
- thezemgustrain

But they need defense... And yes I know you're joking...

By accomplishments you mean "Concussions?!?!"
- Sabresfan88

his nhl numbers were better at this age
his ahl numbers were better
mvp calder cup playoffs


never cried in front of a camera

Thank you.

If we would have received a prospect instead of Legwand everyone would be jumping for joy but here is the thing. We need some vets and have cap space.

Its a fine deal. You may not love it right now but if Lehner turns out to play very well then we have a goalie for the next 10 years potentially. Enjoy it..we are trying to ice a competitive team for once.
- Beezer33

Prospects have potential. Legwand is going to be 35 to start. It won't kill us but we're supposed to be moving forward and I don't think that particular piece helps us "Get a little bit better every day"

Now if it was a needed piece then fine, but that piece by itself doesn't help anyone but Ottawa

Still, he was not worth a 21st overall pick in such a deep draft!
- Sabresfan88

for Vanek, a rental, and McCormick we got

Robin Lehner
Matt Moulson (minus a few games)
2015 pick 51
Josh Gorges (2016 wild second rd pick)
Jack Nevins (mitchell trade)
2016 7th round pick (mitchell trade)
Eric Cornel (trade with jets using wild 2014 pick)
Brycen Martin (trade with jets using wild 2014 pick)
Legwand

his nhl numbers were better at this age
his ahl numbers were better
mvp calder cup playoffs


never cried in front of a camera
- homiedclown

There is still nothing to justify giving a 21st overall pick for a goalie, in a year that there are lots of goalies out there, that could have been had for much much cheaper.

for Vanek, a rental, and McCormick we got

Robin Lehner
Matt Moulson (minus a few games)
2015 pick 51
Josh Gorges (2016 wild second rd pick)
Jack Nevins (mitchell trade)
2016 7th round pick (mitchell trade)
Eric Cornel (trade with jets using wild 2014 pick)
Brycen Martin (trade with jets using wild 2014 pick)
Legwand
- homiedclown

not to mention McCormick is back lol

Last time I checked, we got something in return for the pick. TM didn't just call Bryan Murray and say, "Hey, I'm going to gift you my 21st pick."
- HonkFortheGoose

And that's not what I said, I said I don't want to give anything else up. We did GIVE a pick. Ottawa GAVE a goalie. I didn't say we gifted it to them for free, so no need to put words in my mouth.

The point of the statement was I'd rather not make any more deals today.

There is still nothing to justify giving a 2st overall pick for a goalie, in a year that there are lots of goalies out there, that could have been had for much much cheaper.
- Sabresfan88

We wont know that yet until Lack and Talbot get traded

for Vanek, a rental, and McCormick we got

Robin Lehner
Matt Moulson (minus a few games)
2015 pick 51
Josh Gorges (2016 wild second rd pick)
Jack Nevins (mitchell trade)
2016 7th round pick (mitchell trade)
Eric Cornel (trade with jets using wild 2014 pick)
Brycen Martin (trade with jets using wild 2014 pick)
Legwand
- homiedclown

Did you get permission to copy and paste that post??
Look, I understand all of this.
However, it does not mean you can give away picks, just because you got them easily!

Still, he was not worth a 21st overall pick in such a deep draft!
- Sabresfan88

My guess is Lehner was more valuable than any player he wanted to take at 21.

Meaning Lehner is playing in the NHL nest year whereas #21 was 2-5 years away.

Not a great trade but I like it better than giving up 21 for Talbot or Lack.

No, no the irony is still an Islander fan making fun of any other team's trade.
- Mentalorgasm5

What's really funny is you poking fun at me when I wasn't even making fun of anyone in the post you were replying too. That's irony. Also, you need to look up what irony means there bud.

My guess is Lehner was more valuable than any player he wanted to take at 21.

Meaning Lehner is playing in the NHL nest year whereas #21 was 2-5 years away.

Not a great trade but I like it better than giving up 21 for Talbot or Lack.
- dadeadhead

Agreed

Have you actually read anything that anyone has posted or are you too busy sobbing into your pillow?

I've said a few times now that I don't love it. But I'm not about to freak out about it either.
- HonkFortheGoose

Pssssst......Psssssst...........yeah you.....the one banging their head against the wall. Here is what we recieved for Thomas Vanek, momma

- Islanders 1st Round Draft Choice

-Isladers 2nd Round Draft Choice

-Rented Matt Moulson

P.S. Try to figure out which one of these pieces was the MAIN ingredient in that trade, I'm not trying to be condescending, but when you call people childish names, then tell them they are flat out wrong.....you just look a bit silly.........

So lets just wrap this up with,


Thomas Vanak (5th Over all) player taken for .............. Robin Lehner, & a late 2nd Round pick

Oh bloody christ. Ya'll are beyond ridiculous arm chair GMs. Good lord. Wipe your tears because all of us don't know monkey balls from nhl talent compared to these scouts and gms. And no having watched hockey for 20 years doesn't make you intelligent. If TM thinks the value is there and it's good for the team then I believe him.

Some of you should really pull up your big boy pants and get over it or apply to be a scout or GM if you are so fn smart.