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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
Wasn't a great trade in my estimation.

Thomas Greiss 89 career GP with an adjusted 5v5 save % of .932

Robin Lehner 87 career GP at .922

One cost 21st overall

One is UFA & will sign under 2M

Were also shoehorned into taking Legwand.

Certainly not the kind of trade that will derail Buffalo's promising track towards winning again but also one that seems rushed and not well thought out.

- Ryan_Wilson


Lehner 23 almost 24

Griess (whom I like) 29

There's the difference Gunner.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
Yea, but it might be harder to find a team that has done worse than the islanders.
- Mentalorgasm5


I know robbing Leddy & Boychuk for peanuts was terrible. Trading up at the end of the 1st rd to grab Brock Nelson was another terrible trade. Trading down the year they drafted Bailey and drafting Hamonic with those traded picks was brutal. I mean its just one after another Snow's team got more points last year then basically the Sabres last two years combined. I am jealous though you guys hired Babcock this offseason and are gonna draft McDavid #1 and you still have the 21st pick. Exciting times ahead.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
poop...now you're gonna make me look at the reported posts?!??
- stashu

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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
Greiss is also 4 years older and doesn't have the size that Murray seems to like.
- HonkFortheGoose



5 years older.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
Size matters
- cabin


I thought it was how you use it?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
lol look at the last 6 21st overall picks:
Rob Fabbri
Fred Gauthier
Mark Jankowski
Stefan Noesen
Riley Sheahan
John Moore


- jimmy mcnaulty

So what? Sabres could have used the pick to trade up, or trade for a top 6 player. Ottawa might do the same.

The history of the 8th overall pick is bad, so does that mean it would have been fine to move the 8th pick for Lehner?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
Lehner 23 almost 24

Griess (whom I like) 29

There's the difference Gunner.

- dadeadhead

they can still sign griess as well
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
lol look at the last 6 21st overall picks:
Rob Fabbri
Fred Gauthier
Mark Jankowski
Stefan Noesen
Riley Sheahan
John Moore


- jimmy mcnaulty


That argument is like betting or not betting on red because it was the winner the last 10 times in roulette...
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
Were we?
- dadeadhead


Via Dan Rosen of NHL.com

Murray on why Legwand was part of the trade: "That was the deal. It was take it or leave it. He's part of the deal."
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
poop...now you're gonna make me look at the reported posts?!??
- stashu


Well, since I'm apparently the condescending one that calls names, whenever he does it to me, I'm reporting it. I'm over dealing with. Now it's your problem.
thezemgustrain
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 01.07.2015

Jun 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
But they need defense... And yes I know you're joking...
- jochfr


I'll throw in Strachan. Avs need some toughness on the backend
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
5 years older.
- dadeadhead


Lehner will be 25 when the season starts.
TaroTsujimoto
Location: Fire Everybody!, NY
Joined: 03.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
Guys don't worry you can always take me at 31
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
Lehner will be 25 when the season starts.
- HonkFortheGoose

24

23 now

time for you to go to valuevison

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
Yea, but it might be harder to find a team that has done worse than the islanders.
- Mentalorgasm5

I liked Boychuck for two 2nd rounders and Leddy for Pokka and a crap goaltending prospect. Explain how the Islanders have made some terrible trades. Examples please except for what your obvious one example was earlier?
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
Lehner 23 almost 24

Griess (whom I like) 29

There's the difference Gunner.

- dadeadhead


Could have done a lot cooler things with that #21 overall.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:14 PM ET
24

23 now

time for you to go to valuevison


- homiedclown


It's been a long day.


My bad.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:14 PM ET
Could have done a lot cooler things with that #21 overall.
- Ryan_Wilson

bingo. Especially for a team that's rebuilding.
ImNoTroll
Location: RISTO is equal in value to = Druin + Johnson - MEBSabresFAN
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
Well, since I'm apparently the condescending one that calls names, whenever he does it to me, I'm reporting it. I'm over dealing with. Now it's your problem.
- HonkFortheGoose

That guy is the worse, its hard to ignore him, but I finally learn how to.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
maybe the pick went from 31 for lehner and a blah prospect to 21 for lehner and legwand
- homiedclown



A guy that is one year off of putting up 50.


Yeah he'll be 35 but it's only one year and last time he got moved at the deadline he brought back 3 players.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
So what? Sabres could have used the pick to trade up, or trade for a top 6 player. Ottawa might do the same.

The history of the 8th overall pick is bad, so does that mean it would have been fine to move the 8th pick for Lehner?

- sbroads24

book it. Helped a divisional rival.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
What does this mean? Where did they go?
- Cptmjl



https://youtu.be/EI5MruPZ818
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
Could have done a lot cooler things with that #21 overall.
- Ryan_Wilson


I'll re-iterate what I posted earlier...do you not think he tried??
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
maybe the pick went from 31 for lehner and a blah prospect to 21 for lehner and legwand
- homiedclown

Chances either of those pick play in the NHL are slim to none. Glad we got the goalie spot taken care of. And we didn't sign one of our last season sorry ass goalies.
hawk33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Get off my lawn
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
Whats the next terrible trade to happen?
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