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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Bieksa Trade Close? Goalie Deal & oh, yeah...Draft Day!
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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:23 PM ET
So you fork over a less expensive Edler to improve our forwards and then our D looks like this:
Hamhuis Tanev
Sbisa Weber
Corrado Bieksa

With nobody of note coming up....

I don't see how that helps us

- bezz44

I will repeat this one more time. I am not in any way a fan of Edler. At all. There are many parts of his game that I really can't stand.

I think he tries to play a safe D . I think he is a chicken. I think he makes way too many mistakes. I hate his predidictable drop pass. I think he is uncreative. The only thing I like about him is he has value in a trade.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 26 @ 11:23 PM ET
That defensive lineup is even more depressing than I first thought.
- Beachcomber


That defense can't be the finished product.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jun 26 @ 11:24 PM ET
I really do hope our team doesn't over achieve in the regular season again. I'd rather see them squeak into the playoffs barely then over achieve...

If our division improves, we rebuild off their success. Accept where this team is at. People expect rookie GM's to hit home runs one after another?

- boonerbuck

Perfect time to tank to be honest. We probably don't even have to try
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jun 26 @ 11:26 PM ET
I will repeat this one more time. I am not in any way a fan of Edler. At all. There are many parts of his game that I really can't stand.

I think he tries to play a safe D . I think he is a chicken. I think he makes way too many mistakes. I hate his predidictable drop pass. I think he is uncreative. The only thing I like about him is he has value in a trade.

- VANTEL

That's fine I'm not his biggest fan either but how does Lucic for Edler make things any better? Edler has value in a trade so why do you gut the defense for 1 year of a risky and moody PWF? Send him away for picks/prospects. Unless you legitimately think that our D is no worse off with Sbisa playing top 4 minutes
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:28 PM ET
I am not an Edler fan and would have traded him without blinking. I have been very very very very very consistent about that all along , never changed my mind once . Never

Never

Never

- VANTEL

I will vouch for that.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 26 @ 11:28 PM ET
I think Bieksa to SJ is in play still. In the end, the second plus free cap space looks good.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:29 PM ET
That's fine I'm not his biggest fan either but how does Lucic for Edler make things any better? Edler has value in a trade so why do you gut the defense for 1 year of a risky and moody PWF? Send him away for picks/prospects. Unless you legitimately think that our D is no worse off with Sbisa playing top 4 minutes
- bezz44


LUcic helps in the toughness area and can score as his stats prove. Visiting teams come here and think it is a vacation stop.

I can't think of any team that comes to Vancouver and thinks damn we have to play the Canucks. In fact most teams think lets go to the Roxy and get poopFaced ,it's only the Canucks
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:29 PM ET
I will repeat this one more time. I am not in any way a fan of Edler. At all. There are many parts of his game that I really can't stand.

I think he tries to play a safe D . I think he is a chicken. I think he makes way too many mistakes. I hate his predidictable drop pass. I think he is uncreative. The only thing I like about him is he has value in a trade.

- VANTEL

His size is not utilized. When he plays mean he is effective.
bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jun 26 @ 11:30 PM ET
I think Bieksa to SJ is in play still. In the end, the second plus free cap space looks good.
- boonerbuck

I wouldn't have expected him to return a second so that would be awesome. McGuire mentioned on 1040 that he expected the return to be a 3-4th rounder which was my expectation
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 26 @ 11:30 PM ET
That's fine I'm not his biggest fan either but how does Lucic for Edler make things any better? Edler has value in a trade so why do you gut the defense for 1 year of a risky and moody PWF? Send him away for picks/prospects. Unless you legitimately think that our D is no worse off with Sbisa playing top 4 minutes
- bezz44


Lucic is overkill if we need protection. Lucic if we are building a winner makes sense. We can get someone suckier to add muscle.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:30 PM ET
LUcic helps in the toughness area and can score as his stats prove. Visiting teams come here and think it is a vacation stop.

I can't think of any team that comes to Vancouver and thinks damn we have to play the Canucks. In fact most teams think lets go to the Roxy and get poopFaced ,it's only the Canucks

- VANTEL

He wil poop the bed this season and be in our line up via free agency 2017.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:31 PM ET
His size is not utilized. When he plays mean he is effective.
- thundachunk

He doesn't play mean . Give me Despress Dillon England for less money any day
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:31 PM ET
I wouldn't have expected him to return a second so that would be awesome. McGuire mentioned on 1040 that he expected the return to be a 3-4th rounder which was my expectation
- bezz44

No way he's worth a second easily.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 26 @ 11:31 PM ET
I wouldn't have expected him to return a second so that would be awesome. McGuire mentioned on 1040 that he expected the return to be a 3-4th rounder which was my expectation
- bezz44


If they cant get a 2nd, Id wait to the TDL. Problem is, KB is usually injured through the TDL.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:32 PM ET
Lucic is overkill if we need protection. Lucic if we are building a winner makes sense. We can get someone suckier to add muscle.
- boonerbuck

We have someone sucker with muscle but is always injured or on the sauce.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 26 @ 11:32 PM ET
His size is not utilized. When he plays mean he is effective.
- thundachunk


When he plays mean, he hurts his back.
Beachcomber
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Left Coast, BC
Joined: 12.01.2013

Jun 26 @ 11:33 PM ET
That defense can't be the finished product.
- hillbillydeluxe


Nope. It is missing Stanton.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 26 @ 11:34 PM ET
We have someone sucker with muscle but is always injured or on the sauce.
- thundachunk


bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jun 26 @ 11:34 PM ET
LUcic helps in the toughness area and can score as his stats prove. Visiting teams come here and think it is a vacation stop.

I can't think of any team that comes to Vancouver and thinks damn we have to play the Canucks. In fact most teams think lets go to the Roxy and get poopFaced ,it's only the Canucks

- VANTEL

I don't see how his stats prove anything about scoring. Coming off an 18 goal season with 44 points that is tweener territory. You want toughness? Resign Tom Sestito. I fail to see how throwing a goon on the ice fixes the defense. If you care so much about winning I'd think that would be the first place you'd look to fix. If the plan isn't to win now (which it shouldn't be) and you're trading Edler, then the return should be something that helps us later
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:34 PM ET
I wouldn't have expected him to return a second so that would be awesome. McGuire mentioned on 1040 that he expected the return to be a 3-4th rounder which was my expectation
- bezz44

The rumour was there was 2x2nd round picks and Bieksa was going to be extended 4yrsx4.5 mil . One of the picks was a 2016 so Canucks nixed it. That is why I am pissed
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 26 @ 11:34 PM ET
LUcic helps in the toughness area and can score as his stats prove. Visiting teams come here and think it is a vacation stop.

I can't think of any team that comes to Vancouver and thinks damn we have to play the Canucks. In fact most teams think lets go to the Roxy and get poopFaced ,it's only the Canucks

- VANTEL


Lucic isn't tough, he's a POS like Marchand, he plays dirty and because he's no longer on Boston, he won't get HALF the leniency the NHL gives Bruins players. You think we're hated because of Burrows and formerly Kesler and Lapierre, we'd be twice as hated with Lucic on our team. LA can have him, he's never been the same since the Stanley Cup season and he's wanting a raise on his 6 mil contract for 12 goals? No thanks.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 26 @ 11:34 PM ET
He doesn't play mean . Give me Despress Dillon England for less money any day
- VANTEL

You'd trade Edler for Engelland.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 26 @ 11:34 PM ET
Nope. It is missing Stanton.
- Beachcomber


bezz44
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Inside the scroatee, BC
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jun 26 @ 11:34 PM ET
Lucic is overkill if we need protection. Lucic if we are building a winner makes sense. We can get someone suckier to add muscle.
- boonerbuck

Exactly
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 26 @ 11:35 PM ET
When he plays mean, he hurts his back.
- hillbillydeluxe
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