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pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 27 @ 3:02 PM ET
You and booner are preaching a slow and steady rebuild. Which is understandable. Others, including myself, Re preaching a much faster approach. Both approaches have the same conclusion. Just different timelines. Not sure why this topic is so controversial. Both have been shown to work if managed properly.

This team is tearing us apart!!!

- bloatedmosquito

If anyone of you have watched world war Z. This draft reminded me of the part where the Palestinians came into Israel for shelter from the zombies and were holding hands and singing songs ( when Bieksa rumours came out). Then the zombies invaded and it was everyone for themselves ( after the draft)
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 3:03 PM ET
You and booner are preaching a slow and steady rebuild. Which is understandable. Others, including myself, Re preaching a much faster approach. Both approaches have the same conclusion. Just different timelines. Not sure why this topic is so controversial. Both have been shown to work if managed properly.

This team is tearing us apart!!!

- bloatedmosquito

I'm saying go as fast as you can but I understand it's not a video game. Trust me, sooner is better but I'm being realistic.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 27 @ 3:04 PM ET
That's a stupid statement, sorry but it is. The Flames and Oilers and been losing for years while piling up prospects and picks to make those kinds of moves. You can't compete with what they have when you're winning and going to the finals.
- LeftCoaster



Agreed, I don't even have the words to describe how trivial and simple. That statement is. A little critical thinking and you can figure out why Calgary and Edmonton were able to do what they did....
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 3:04 PM ET
You and booner are preaching a slow and steady rebuild. Which is understandable. Others, including myself, Re preaching a much faster approach. Both approaches have the same conclusion. Just different timelines. Not sure why this topic is so controversial. Both have been shown to work if managed properly.

This team is tearing us apart!!!

- bloatedmosquito

you think we were together, that's cute.

this city rioted after losing, you call that together.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 3:04 PM ET
In one year Benning got us happier and younger.

A vet goalie to watch over markstrom as he becomes a monster

A top 6 winger in sven with skill
A potential top 4 with pp qb ability in clendening
Another top 6 in Virtanen
Another top 6 in McCann
Yet another potential top six with size in Boeser
A great young 3rd line center in Bonino he's not a 2nd he's a 3rd with a salary of 1.9 for 3 more ears great trade.
Got dorsett who is a beauty 3rd 4th line leader

Moved out a back up goalie for a few picks meh
We will see what Vey becomes meh

Missed on Garrison big time
Sbisa was and is terrible should have tried to trade him not extend him
Needs to move bieksa and higgy for picks still may happen

All in all Benning is doing a fantastic job.

- The_Kuze

Totally ok with what he's done so far.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 3:06 PM ET
Totally ok with what he's done so far.
- LeftCoaster

Do you have a choice?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 3:06 PM ET
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2015e.html

The entire draft...those guys are quick to update
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 3:07 PM ET
Do you have a choice?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Yes of course...if I didn't like what he's done I'd say so. Do I have a choice in his decisions, no obviously. Doesn't mean I can't speak my mind.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 27 @ 3:10 PM ET
You and booner are preaching a slow and steady rebuild. Which is understandable. Others, including myself, Re preaching a much faster approach. Both approaches have the same conclusion. Just different timelines. Not sure why this topic is so controversial. Both have been shown to work if managed properly.

This team is tearing us apart!!!

- bloatedmosquito



I think slow and steady is better for the development of the team. You need the right veterans to guide the youth hence the Sedins and Hamhuis and to an extent Bieksa.

I'd love a rebuild too but I'm not sure I'd enjoy blowing the ship up and sucking cock for 5 years just to possibly draft enough high end talent to contend.

I like JB's approach.....trade prospects/picks for prospects with a high ceiling not likely getting an opportunity in their current organization. Speeds up the process.

It's not perfect but I loathe the lean years that I grew up with 1982-1992.....
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 3:13 PM ET
I think slow and steady is better for the development of the team. You need the right veterans to guide the youth hence the Sedins and Hamhuis and to an extent Bieksa.

I'd love a rebuild too but I'm not sure I'd enjoy blowing the ship up and sucking cock for 5 years just to possibly draft enough high end talent to contend.

I like JB's approach.....trade prospects/picks for prospects with a high ceiling not likely getting an opportunity in their current organization. Speeds up the process.

It's not perfect but I loathe the lean years that I grew up with 1982-1992.....

- chompsey

Lottery changes again next year, it's going to be harder and harder to "tank", simply missing the playoffs means you can still win the first overall.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
Lottery changes again next year, it's going to be harder and harder to "tank", simply missing the playoffs means you can still win the first overall.
- LeftCoaster



Or second or third.......top 3 picks are determined by the lottery....
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
Lottery changes again next year, it's going to be harder and harder to "tank", simply missing the playoffs means you can still win the first overall.
- LeftCoaster

So if 1 twin gets hurt we could be picking 1st.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 27 @ 3:16 PM ET
You and booner are preaching a slow and steady rebuild. Which is understandable. Others, including myself, Re preaching a much faster approach. Both approaches have the same conclusion. Just different timelines. Not sure why this topic is so controversial. Both have been shown to work if managed properly.

This team is tearing us apart!!!

- bloatedmosquito


You are incorrect in what I'm preaching. I want it done as fast as possible but I'm not fooling myself.

I'm sure JB thinks the same way. Thats why he has been trading picks and prospects for prospects who are much closer to being ready. People keep over looking that. I like the baertchi trade. How does that translate into slow rebuild?


VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 27 @ 3:17 PM ET
I think slow and steady is better for the development of the team. You need the right veterans to guide the youth hence the Sedins and Hamhuis and to an extent Bieksa.

I'd love a rebuild too but I'm not sure I'd enjoy blowing the ship up and sucking cock for 5 years just to possibly draft enough high end talent to contend.

I like JB's approach.....trade prospects/picks for prospects with a high ceiling not likely getting an opportunity in their current organization. Speeds up the process.

It's not perfect but I loathe the lean years that I grew up with 1982-1992.....

- chompsey


Fair enough, however I disagree. I'm for the rebuild.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 27 @ 3:17 PM ET
You are incorrect in what I'm preaching. I want it done as fast as possible but I'm not fooling myself.

I'm sure JB thinks the same way. Thats why he has been trading picks and prospects for prospects who are much closer to being ready. People keep over looking that. I like the baertchi trade. How does that translate into slow rebuild?

- boonerbuck



It's just not sexy if it's not a top 3 pick fifty years in a row......
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 27 @ 3:18 PM ET
You think Chiarelli is done?
- VanHockeyGuy


You think Benning is?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 3:18 PM ET
So if 1 twin gets hurt we could be picking 1st.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I don't think they make the playoffs next year anyways.

Here's my prediction - they are close to the playoffs but decide to purge the roster at the TDL next year, then a true build will be on the books.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 3:19 PM ET
Fair enough, however I disagree. I'm for the rebuild.
- VanHockeyGuy

It's a shame none of us get a vote, all we can do is not go to the games, that's the only message we can send.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 27 @ 3:19 PM ET
Or second or third.......top 3 picks are determined by the lottery....
- chompsey

Yes
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 3:20 PM ET
I don't think they make the playoffs next year anyways.

Here's my prediction - they are close to the playoffs but decide to purge the roster at the TDL next year, then a true build will be on the books.

- LeftCoaster

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 27 @ 3:23 PM ET
You think Benning is?
- CubanBuffet


Let's put is this way, he's not in on Nash.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 27 @ 3:25 PM ET
You get higher value at TDL anyways.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 3:30 PM ET
You get higher value at TDL anyways.
- pker2theend

I can't get much higher than right now.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 27 @ 3:36 PM ET
I can't get much higher than right now.
- A_SteamingLombardi

try harder.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jun 27 @ 3:38 PM ET
Hi!

I've been busy liveblogging all the draft action.

Here's my first pass at the Canucks' weekend, and your chance to weigh in with a new poll.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...trom-Era-Begins/194/69600
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