He's listed at 5'9" on NHL.com
- MJL

future smurfs

They blew their last chance for a Z3

on the way up for 5 years
- Just5

one atom at a time

Long duck dong selected by the Isle

He's listed at 5'9" on NHL.com
- MJL

That's an old height. You can trust the measurements taken at the combine a few weeks ago.

so, low organizational confidence in Stolarz?

nki (http://hfboards.hockeysfu...re.com/member.php?u=42726) did great reviews of his top 120 prospects and top 5 goalies from this draft. Follow the links for the full write-ups of the guys we picked from his top 120, and find his full ranking and list of reviews here: http://hfboards.hockeysfu.../showthread.php?t=1903817
You can find an explanation of his methodology here: http://hfboards.hockeysfu.../showthread.php?t=1819069




7th pick Ivan Provorov (Ranked 7 Overall):
http://hfboards.hockeysfu...p?p=96112387&postcount=23

Defense: Positional
Offense: Cerebral

Keywords, unique identity traits: composure, closing down, controlling space

Room for improvement: offensive creativity might be a touch better, already considerably polished which leaves question marks as to how much room there is for growth

Development focus: Doesn't have any glaring weaknesses, so just a natural progression in all aspects as it goes for all prospects. Might want to experiment with allowing himself to do more things with the puck offensively, perhaps adding a bit of deception and build his comfort zone to play with more creativity.

Projection: chance at being a #1 two-way defenseman, both a PK and PP option, might end up a #2




24th pick Travis Konecny (Ranked 10 Overall):
http://hfboards.hockeysfu...hp?p=96065301&postcount=3

Defense: Athletic
Offense: Forceful

Keywords, unique identity traits: Intensity, skill, shot, speed

Room for improvement: Puck management, gear changes (mix fast with slowing down when it fits the play), thin frame, some small reads that make a difference in keeping possession of the puck

Developmental focus: Ease back from his all-out all-the-time intensity, mix it with a more patient game that should result in better puck management and more synergy with his linemates.

Projection: top 6 offensive threat with alluring combination of intensity and skill. Could be used on both PP and PK.




70th pick Felix Sandstrom (Ranked 4 Among Goalies)
http://hfboards.hockeysfu...p=103257491&postcount=497

Keywords, unique identity traits: 6'2 goalie that makes himself big with positioning and angles, calm and composed

Room for improvement: questionable whether he has the explosiveness to make that extra save when needed

Developmental focus: I do think he could add some explosiveness in movement with traffic in front of him and in side-to-side movement. Really solid positionally but I question whether he can make that extra save.

Projection: Has a chance to be a positional starting goalie that makes himself big in net and relies on angles. Calming influence.




90th pick Matej Tomek did not make nki's top 5 goalies.




98th pick Samuel Dove-McFalls (Ranked 73 Overall):
http://hfboards.hockeysfu...p=102820843&postcount=444

Defense: Positional
Offense: Cerebral

Keywords, unique identity traits: pro sized two-way/defensive C, has faceoff ability and can log PK minutes, active long stick, engaging physically, decent mobility and can make some plays with the puck

Room for improvement: could use his frame better with the puck on his stick to sustain zone time, developing offensive game overall, decent defensive player but has some ways to go to be considered better than that in that regard

Development focus: I think Dove-McFalls could stand to improve offensively in terms of using his size to protect the puck and give himself some time to make plays with it stemming from that.

Projection: I'd project Dove-McFalls as a pro-sized two-way/defensive bottom 6 center that has decent mobility, competes well, is physically engaging and has a long active stick. Could log some PK minutes and has faceoff ability.




104th pick Mikhail Vorobyov did not make nki's top 120 prospects.




128th pick David Kase (Ranked 99 Overall):
http://hfboards.hockeysfu...p=103043213&postcount=478

Defense: Positional
Offense: Cerebral

Keywords, unique identity traits: a competitive undersized winger (although has lined up at C as well in my viewings), decent skill level, committed as a two-way player, plays bigger than size, well-schooled in "doing the right thing" consistently

Room for improvement: very undersized, questionable whether he has top 6 skill or the qualities to play in a limited minutes checking role

Development focus: Kase really needs to fill out. Has a solid overall game but it's questionable whether there is a skill of his that would project him into a top 6 role. And his size right now is an issue for a limited minutes checking role.

Projection: I'd project Kase as having the potential to be an engaging middle six winger, that competes well, plays bigger than his size, has a decent skill level and can skate and has the vision to make offensive plays. Is really undersized right now though. Questionable whether his package is good enough for top 6 and he might not have the size to play a limited minutes checking role.


158th pick Cooper Marody did not make nki's top 120 prospects.


188th pick Ivan Fedotov did not make nki's top 5 goalies.

Fedotov drafted to bring the average height of the draft class back up to 6'

so, low organizational confidence in Stolarz?
- nails

Nope, need more prospect age goalies in the system. They take a long time to develop.

so, low organizational confidence in Stolarz?
- nails

I don't think so, even if Stolzar reaches his potential (realistically a backup goalie but tops a mid range starter) they need more goalies in the pipeline----it's so thin.

Nope, need more prospect age goalies in the system. They take a long time to develop.
- MJL

yeah, I get that.
just seems like that last pick was a bit of overkill.
eve if BPA.

Ya know, if Perron is such a failure with the Pens, I would gladly put him on G's wing.

yeah, I get that.
just seems like that last pick was a bit of overkill.
eve if BPA.
- nails

IF.. these guys see the nhl it won't be for 5-8 years in all likelihood. I'd love 10+ controlled goalie prospects in our system at all times

yeah, I get that.
just seems like that last pick was a bit of overkill.
eve if BPA.
- nails

It's the 7th round.

Any Black Book reviews on the final 2 picks, Marody and Fedotov?

yeah, I get that.
just seems like that last pick was a bit of overkill.
eve if BPA.
- nails

My view is a 7th round pick is just about impossible to get a player that will make it to the NHL. Goalies are hard to read when they're that young, and take a long time to develop. I actually think it's smart to take a goalie in a round that late. Goalies are typically late bloomers. Might get lucky.

My view is a 7th round pick is just about impossible to get a player that will make it to the NHL. Goalies are hard to read when they're that young, and take a long time to develop. I actually think it's smart to take a goalie in a round that late. Goalies are typically late bloomers. Might get lucky.
- MJL

I guess at this stage of the draft, if there is a skater you like you just bring him in after the draft is over.

Ya know, if Perron is such a failure with the Pens, I would gladly put him on G's wing.
- nails

youre more than welcome to swap him for simmonds

My view is a 7th round pick is just about impossible to get a player that will make it to the NHL. Goalies are hard to read when they're that young, and take a long time to develop. I actually think it's smart to take a goalie in a round that late. Goalies are typically late bloomers. Might get lucky.
- MJL

Agreed. We always stress quality over quantity, but goalies are the one position in sports where I believe drafting in quantity is extremely important. Obviously, I'm not saying you should ignore quality, but so many variables are in play with whether or not a goalie develops in the end that you need to draft in quantity and hope to get lucky.

My view is a 7th round pick is just about impossible to get a player that will make it to the NHL. Goalies are hard to read when they're that young, and take a long time to develop. I actually think it's smart to take a goalie in a round that late. Goalies are typically late bloomers. Might get lucky.
- MJL

joe pavelski 205 overall

I guess at this stage of the draft, if there is a skater you like you just bring him in after the draft is over.
- nails

Good point.

youre more than welcome to swap him for simmonds
- stayinthefnnet

You are overvaluing your bust

EDIT:
You can have Luke. Pens need D.

Busy today, but glad they took goalies, even though they aren't the sexiest picks

No way to tell if any of them do anything, but they had to have them, and IMO, they needed to grab more than one, which they did

I would've loved for something to have shaken free regarding a trade of a defenseman for either a pick or a useful forward, but something will be done

You are overvaluing your bust

EDIT:
You can have Luke. Pens need D.
- nails

haha i hope youre being as facetious as i was.

i dont think the pens d is in awesome shape right now, but the only one i would think schenn would beat out would be scuderi's rotting corpse.

i dont think perron is simmonds equal, but i do think he will hover around 25 to 28 goals this year. not too awful.

probably not too far from where simmer will be.

So am I safe to order my provorov #9 jersey? Lol.