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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:09 AM ET
Not even Luke!!
- 3flyerkids


I still think Luke can get us a 3rd rounder. He's still relatively young and shoots right, they are both a plus.

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:10 AM ET
They just dealt one guy who wanted too much money and picked up a LHD in Zadorov, so trading for MDZ seems unlikely.
- Feanor

Lame. 31 and 40 tho. If Hextall could figure out something for those picks that would be an amazing way to start the round.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:12 AM ET
I still think Luke can get us a 3rd rounder. He's still relatively young and shoots right, they are both a plus.
- BiggE


I would think a 3rd would be reasonable. His age is key.
There are a lot of Western teams ( Arizona, Edmonton, and even the Ducks) that could use D help
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:13 AM ET
Thanks Bill.

Very excited about Provorov. In-between on Konecny. Time will tell. Are we going to see some trades today to get the Flyers some 2nd round picks?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:16 AM ET
I still think Luke can get us a 3rd rounder. He's still relatively young and shoots right, they are both a plus.
- BiggE


Is that more of a dump or would you call a 3rd for L Schenn a good deal?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:18 AM ET
Is that more of a dump or would you call a 3rd for L Schenn a good deal?
- wolfhounds


Well, IMO, he's at best a #5 dman, so yeah, it's a fair deal.

vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:19 AM ET
I still think Luke can get us a 3rd rounder. He's still relatively young and shoots right, they are both a plus.
- BiggE

and the final year of contract for Luke and Grossman
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:22 AM ET
I would also be a happy camper if the Schenns could be turned into Oshie. Very much doubt that happens though.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:24 AM ET
WTF is Buffalo doing? Why would you trade for a malcontent who apparently wants $7 million per even though it doesn't look like he's even close to that valuable? I'd have kept Zadorov as opposed to selling low (and early) on him. Kane and O'Reilly in the same locker room? I guess it could work...
3flyerkids
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:25 AM ET
I would also be a happy camper if the Schenns could be turned into Oshie. Very much doubt that happens though.
- hereticpride


Didn't Oshie play for Hakstol? Maybe the new coach has a liking for TJ and ask's his GM to look into any possible deals
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:25 AM ET
Well, IMO, he's at best a #5 dman, so yeah, it's a fair deal.
- BiggE


Seems reasonable. I'd love to get some 2nd round picks. It sucks that L Schenn has fallen that far.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:26 AM ET
I would think a 3rd would be reasonable. His age is key.
There are a lot of Western teams ( Arizona, Edmonton, and even the Ducks) that could use D help

- 3flyerkids


How many teams would find his cap-hit attractive, tho? I don't think anybody out there is still expecting him to be anything more than a limited 3rd-pair guy. And there's no shortage of RH 3rd-pairing guys who make a fraction of what he's pulling.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:28 AM ET
When does the 2nd round start, Noon?
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:30 AM ET
How many teams would find his cap-hit attractive, tho? I don't think anybody out there is still expecting him to be anything more than a limited 3rd-pair guy. And there's no shortage of RH 3rd-pairing guys who make a fraction of what he's pulling.
- Tomahawk



A team like Arizona has a lot of cap room.
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:31 AM ET
I am still laughing Wolf. It will be interesting to see how long Kane and O'Reilly last in Buffalo. However, maybe a change of scenery is what each of the players needed. If Kane can focus on hockey, and get back into game shape, he could be good for the Sabers. If O'Reilly can tolerate a developing team, then he might be a solid player for them. We might even see a fight between the two of them during the preseason...lol.
I am still waiting to see how the MDZ situation plays out. If they move some players does Hexy give into MDZ's demands? To be continued.....
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:31 AM ET
Draft at 10. 3.5 million isn't much these days 4th d man ate getting 5+
xpsana
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:32 AM ET
When does the 2nd round start, Noon?
- wolfhounds


10AM on NHL Network IIRC.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:33 AM ET
Great start to the draft for Hexy, two great prospects! Now if he can just ship Vinny off to Arizona for some cap relief I'll be pretty happy.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:34 AM ET
Thanks for the draft time update.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:35 AM ET
When does the 2nd round start, Noon?
- wolfhounds


10 AM
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:38 AM ET
Draft at 10. 3.5 million isn't much these days 4th d man ate getting 5+
- Tfaehner


Yup, case in point: AMac
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:40 AM ET
A team like Arizona has a lot of cap room.
- 3flyerkids


Don't mean to be picking on you about this in particular, but why is it that the 'Yotes are always put out there as the answer to every cap problem that the Flyers have?



(and they have plenty of dmen of their own, they don't need Luke)
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:43 AM ET
Don't mean to be picking on you about this in particular, but why is it that the 'Yotes are always put out there as the answer to every cap problem that the Flyers have?



(and they have plenty of dmen of their own, they don't need Luke)

- Tomahawk

Yeah, they aren't taking Vinny. No one wants him.

Maybe the Pronger contract for a late pick. That's it.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:46 AM ET
Great start to the draft for Hexy, two great prospects! Now if he can just ship Vinny off to Arizona for some cap relief I'll be pretty happy.
- Pacificgem


The discussion of trading Prongers rights is also an interesting possibility, though some have said it could happen others say nay.
Paying $550,000 to eat up 4.9 mil in cap space for the floor reaching teams....
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:47 AM ET
So Konecny is expected to be a RW at the NHL level? Talk about a logjam on the right side. Jake and Simmonds aren't going anywhere any time soon. Read seems to perform better at RW and A-K is in the system. Someone is going to have to make the move to LW in the next two years if they're not making a move to a different team.
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