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Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:18 PM ET
Do we convert him to LW and put him with g dogg
- Hextall271


I think he would shine G's shoes & skates to be on that line....
or to be out of the desert

He may be a passthrough though

Loving July 2nd... with hope

If he has some wheels, Vinny will be sent home if he doesnt terminate
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:19 PM ET
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:19 PM ET
i hope we don't buy out gagner give him a (frank)ing shot at the 2nd/3rd line!
QuickSCF
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.11.2014

Jun 27 @ 4:19 PM ET
I don't understand. Isn't Prongers contract not against the cap anyways?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 27 @ 4:19 PM ET
Hextall's face. On this gif. Stat.

- hereticpride


hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:19 PM ET
what's the buyout on gagner
- Winning

Can't be much. He's only got one year left I believe.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:19 PM ET
Frank SeravalliVerified account
‏@frank_seravalli

Sounds as if #Flyers will be buying out Sam Gagner. Hextall won't commit to keeping him. #TSN

- FLYERSROCK!


If that is true, Hextall has some free agent targets in mind, or another potential trade.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:19 PM ET
I don't understand. Isn't Prongers contract not against the cap anyways?
- QuickSCF

it is we just put him on LTIR so it's not
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:19 PM ET
Yes it does, a team using LTIR is more at risk for issues such as bonus overages. In the end, it doesn't gain them any more cap space to actually use, but gives them more off season maneverability, and it is better for during the season. A team using LTIR can't bank any cap space either.
- MJL


right right, I get that.
Just seems everyone is giddy to dump this particular contract and just any D man.
If they had moved Luke and Pronger, I could see extra excitement.

What happens when he moves Vinny?
Parade?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:19 PM ET
Can't be much. He's only got one year left I believe.
- hereticpride



2/3rds over twice the years.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:19 PM ET
you're the devil
- Crimsoninja


Okay Embiid
kej83
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oc, NJ
Joined: 10.19.2010

Jun 27 @ 4:20 PM ET
I don't understand. Isn't Prongers contract not against the cap anyways?
- QuickSCF


it is till the first day of the regular season when LTIR is available
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 4:20 PM ET
I don't understand. Isn't Prongers contract not against the cap anyways?
- QuickSCF


It's a female dog to work around
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:20 PM ET
Why do you think Phoenix wants Grossmann?
- MJL


theyd rather have grossman than dead cap money on a gagner buyout

Immense value
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:21 PM ET
right right, I get that.
Just seems everyone is giddy to dump this particular contract and just any D man.
If they had moved Luke and Pronger, I could see extra excitement.

What happens when he moves Vinny?
Parade?

- nails


I get you, it's not a huge deal to move Pronger, but it does help. If it's true they'll buyout Gagner, that points to a few directions.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:21 PM ET
right right, I get that.
Just seems everyone is giddy to dump this particular contract and just any D man.
If they had moved Luke and Pronger, I could see extra excitement.

What happens when he moves Vinny?
Parade?

- nails

we thank vinny for all he's done and wish him the best with his new team
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:21 PM ET
right right, I get that.
Just seems everyone is giddy to dump this particular contract and just any D man.
If they had moved Luke and Pronger, I could see extra excitement.

What happens when he moves Vinny?
Parade?

- nails


We will know he is using Jedi mind tricks on other GM's and has channeled "Keith the Thief Allen"
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 27 @ 4:21 PM ET
Loving this hex tall fellow prongers contract is valuable to poor teams because the cap hit is 4.9mil but only pays 550k I think Arizona is gonna eat some of gagners salary also
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:22 PM ET
theyd rather have grossman than dead cap money on a gagner buyout

Immense value

- Just5


So they don't want Grossmann to actually play for them, because he has no value around the league. How do you know Arizona was going to buyout Gagner?
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:22 PM ET
Ek says Flyers are buying out Gagner

this all of a sudden isnt so great..... he's only making 3.2M, keep him for this year...
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:22 PM ET
Arizona gets their first taste of a hall of famer.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:23 PM ET
Frank SeravalliVerified account
‏@frank_seravalli

Sounds as if #Flyers will be buying out Sam Gagner. Hextall won't commit to keeping him. #TSN

- FLYERSROCK!


That is unfortunate.

But, it also make more sense if they could make the deal, get a pick out of it and then buy out.
instead of just buying out grossman and getting nothing for it.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:23 PM ET
2/3rds over twice the years.
- MJL


2.31 cap hit for 2 years then
His actual salary was $100,000 more than the cap
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:23 PM ET
I don't understand. Isn't Prongers contract not against the cap anyways?
- QuickSCF


Players on LTIR count against the cap the same as any other player. You get an exemption to go over the cap to replace the player, if replacing him puts you over the upper limit.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:23 PM ET
So they don't want Grossmann to actually play for them, because he has no value around the league. How do you know Arizona was going to buyout Gagne?
- MJL

what's grossman's value
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