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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:37 PM ET
Would be funny if Pronger just decided to retire now.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:38 PM ET
It is one conditional pick. 3rd or 4th rounder
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:39 PM ET
isn't Gagner's cap hit 3.2M?
- nails

I thought it was $4.8M?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:39 PM ET
It is one conditional pick. 3rd or 4th rounder
- Just5

so what's the condition
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:40 PM ET
2.367M of cap space gained, a draft pick, and better maneuverability in the off season, less danger of bonus overages, depending on who makes the team, an open contract and roster spot. What's not to like?
- MJL

didn't say I didn't like it.
the part that has me questioning is the buyout rumor. that eats up the cap space a bit for the next two years.
And if you were going to buy out someone anyway (say grossman) then hexy completely fleeced the yotes out of a pick.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:40 PM ET
so what's the condition
- Giroux_Is_God


I think it's Phoenix's option.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:41 PM ET
didn't say I didn't like it.
the part that has me questioning is the buyout rumor. that eats up the cap space a bit for the next two years.
And if you were going to buy out someone anyway (say grossman) then hexy completely fleeced the yotes out of a pick.

- nails



The end result is it adds cap space. A buyout of Gagner is cheaper than a buyout of Grossmann.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 27 @ 4:41 PM ET
Can he play Winger?
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:42 PM ET
I thought it was $4.8M?
- fecondo

1.6 retained by tampa
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 27 @ 4:42 PM ET
Not at all a Sam Gagner fan but Hextall just blew my mind by moving Pronger's deal and one of our defenseman to get the second line center we needed all last season. Objectively, this is a fantastic deal. It also doesn't hurt that Gagner is young, with only one year left.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:43 PM ET
If Hextall trades the Schenns for Oshie I'm going streaking.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:43 PM ET
1.6 retained by tampa
- Winning

Ah I missed that. Thanks!
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:44 PM ET
The end result is it adds cap space. A buyout of Gagner is cheaper than a buyout of Grossmann.
- MJL


it is. but like 100K maybe 150K?

I am just wondering if they are expecting to have to buy out vinny.
ie use the cap savings from buying out Gagner to buy out either Vinny or RJ
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:44 PM ET
Flyers in on Kessel per EKlund


HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:45 PM ET
If Hextall trades the Schenns for Oshie I'm going streaking.
- hereticpride


We don't like in the same place but I'll go with ya.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:45 PM ET
So Ek just kinda majorly teased us

@Eklund 6h

in the old days the Flyers would have been all over the Kessel rumors today. Damn you Hexy and your patience.

@Eklund 1m1 minute ago

Hockey Buzz Eklund retweeted Hockey Buzz Eklund

or........maybe not.....
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:46 PM ET
Folks, there is certainly more dust to settle yet. Hard to evaluate half of a loaf. But it is a tasty loaf so far.
Briere
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:46 PM ET
Yea, that was just awful. A warrior of a defenseman, who gave his heart and soul every game, and played solid defense. I'm sure glad we don't have to put up with that any more.
- MJL


Grossman was/is a serviceable damn in this league. Your right, he gave all he had every night. I was there when he fought George Paros. I have a ton of respect for Grossman.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:46 PM ET
Flyers in on Kessel per EKlund


HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

- Winning

So long as they take AMac and don't give up a D prospect better than Hagg I do not care. Bring it on.

BSchenn AMac MDZ. Do it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:46 PM ET
Not at all a Sam Gagner fan but Hextall just blew my mind by moving Pronger's deal and one of our defenseman to get the second line center we needed all last season. Objectively, this is a fantastic deal. It also doesn't hurt that Gagner is young, with only one year left.
- SuperSchennBros


Reports are the Flyers are going to buy Gagner out and he will not be on the team.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:46 PM ET
Sorry if I'm late and this has been discussed. But I feel like if the Flyers don't want to keep Gagner, that there should be a trade market for him. 1 year and a 3.2 mil cap hit isn't bad for a 25 year old who routinely puts up point totals in the 40s. I know he isnt' a great 2 way player, but I'd think he could be traded for a pick instead of having to be bought out. Thoughts?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 27 @ 4:47 PM ET
If Hextall trades the Schenns for Oshie I'm going streaking.
- hereticpride

I'd be more focused on getting Lecavalier off the books, not two brothers of the ages of 25 and 23.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:47 PM ET
Good write up of the situation:

http://www.broadstreethoc...flyers-coyotes-sam-gagner

Still doesn't have all the info but some good starting fodder.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:47 PM ET
Grossman was/is a serviceable damn in this league. Your right, he gave all he had every night. I was there when he fought George Paros. I have a ton of respect for Grossman.
- Briere


It's the right move for the Flyers to make, but there should be respect for the player, for the way he played.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:47 PM ET
FLYERS HAVE THE CAP SPACE FOR KESSEL NOW HAHAHAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
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