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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 27 @ 4:55 PM ET
So Flyers only had ~ 1.8M of cap space before this deal

They now have ~ 6.6M

Kessel's cap hit is 8M, and you can only spend 10% over the cap in the offseason, so 7.14M

Flyers now have room for Kessel...

Hmmmmmmmmm.........

- FLYERSROCK!


Or Phanoof.....
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 27 @ 4:55 PM ET
Who knows, but I would think that Phoenix kicked a lot of cans on Gagner.
- MJL

How do you feel about Sam Gagner? Would you prefer to buy him out? Watching the Flyers a hole between the second line or third line (which ever you believe Couturier played) I feel Gagner is worth one year. Michael Del Zotto has been bad awhile and this turned out.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:56 PM ET
Hextall swoops in and steals Oshie from the Pens.
- hereticpride

We might finally win a friggin shoot out with oshie
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 4:56 PM ET
Or Phanoof.....
- Nucker101
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 27 @ 4:57 PM ET
He's a 25 yoa version of Brayden schenn

Not consistent of a scorer enough to hold down a top 6 spot. Doesn't bring anything of value to the bottom 6

- Just5

Brayden Schenn has a 20 goal season under his belt.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:58 PM ET
So IF, IF this kessel stuff really has legs, where do you start if you are Toronto?
I say Jake, Sanheim, and a 1st.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 27 @ 4:58 PM ET
Never know what might happen, but the Flyers are probably committed to Giroux, Couturier, Laughton, Bellemare down the middle. They also have Brayden Schenn who can play center, along with Lecavalier, and White if he is re-signed. So they don't exactly need a center.
- MJL

I suppose this is fair. I personally wouldn't have re-signed Bellemare over White. Now we're possibly days away from losing White.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:59 PM ET
So IF, IF this kessel stuff really has legs, where do you start if you are Toronto?
I say Jake, Sanheim, and a 1st.

- nails

And I'd pee myself laughing if I'm Hexy.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 27 @ 5:00 PM ET
So IF, IF this kessel stuff really has legs, where do you start if you are Toronto?
I say Jake, Sanheim, and a 1st.

- nails

You cant be serious
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:00 PM ET
So Flyers only had ~ 1.8M of cap space before this deal

They now have ~ 6.6M

Kessel's cap hit is 8M, and you can only spend 10% over the cap in the offseason, so 7.14M

Flyers now have room for Kessel...

Hmmmmmmmmm.........

- FLYERSROCK!


Essentially the Flyers did not gain that amount of cap space in this deal. They basically gained 2.67M of cap space if they buyout Gagner.
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:00 PM ET
And I'd pee myself laughing if I'm Hexy.
- five4fighting10

well, if you want him.

I'm not saying I would accept it. But if I am toronto, i would try
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:02 PM ET
How do you feel about Sam Gagner? Would you prefer to buy him out? Watching the Flyers a hole between the second line or third line (which ever you believe Couturier played) I feel Gagner is worth one year. Michael Del Zotto has been bad awhile and this turned out.
- SuperSchennBros



If it allows the Flyers to do something else, like re-sign Del Zotto, or add another player, yes, I'd buy him out.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:02 PM ET
The conditional pick is a 2016 4th but since Arizona doesn't have one right now, and if they can't acquire one, the pick becomes a 2017 3rd.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:03 PM ET
So IF, IF this kessel stuff really has legs, where do you start if you are Toronto?
I say Jake, Sanheim, and a 1st.

- nails

Toronto has already told teams they know they need to take back bad contracts to move Kessel.

They are taking AMac if we are to have anything to do with Kessel. I'd probably push for RJ as well.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:03 PM ET
So IF, IF this kessel stuff really has legs, where do you start if you are Toronto?
I say Jake, Sanheim, and a 1st.

- nails


That's hilarious. I'd say to the leafs. I'm taking this idiot off your hands. And start there. I'm not bailing out a conference opponent from a guy who is overpaid and doesn't work.
Briere
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:04 PM ET
We might finally win a friggin shoot out with oshie
- moylander


Isn't OT going to 3 on 3? If so, shoot outs won't be as big a deal as they use to.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 5:05 PM ET
well, if you want him.

I'm not saying I would accept it. But if I am toronto, i would try

- nails

I have less than zero interest in Kessel. But I'd understand Toronto aiming high, but I value Voracek slightly higher than I value Kessel, so an offer including Jake with Sanheim and a 1st would be so insulting to me as a GM that I'd counter with Rinaldo and Vinny for JVR and Gardiner.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:07 PM ET
Who are the top FAs this summer anyway? I haven't paid attention to that all. I know its a weak group.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:07 PM ET
Who are the top FAs this summer anyway? I haven't paid attention to that all. I know its a weak group.
- hereticpride

about to be sam gagner
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:08 PM ET
I have less than zero interest in Kessel. But I'd understand Toronto aiming high, but I value Voracek slightly higher than I value Kessel, so an offer including Jake with Sanheim and a 1st would be so insulting to me as a GM that I'd counter with Rinaldo and Vinny for JVR and Gardiner.
- five4fighting10


I'd counter with asking them to log onto Skype and mooning them.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 27 @ 5:08 PM ET
Would have been more pleased with them giving away Luke but good deal either way I suppose.

Was a fan of Grossmann, just not the $.
MatveiDmitrii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 01.16.2015

Jun 27 @ 5:08 PM ET
Liking the Grossmann move. Baby steps, but they're getting there.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 5:09 PM ET
Would have been more pleased with them giving away Luke but good deal either way I suppose.

- flyer_nutter

The night is young.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 27 @ 5:10 PM ET
What a couple days
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 27 @ 5:11 PM ET
I'd counter with asking them to log onto Skype and mooning them.
- Hextall271

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