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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:35 PM ET
MDZ better lower his demands
- nonpoint22


Possibly, I don't know what his demands are.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Jun 27 @ 6:37 PM ET
It's speculation right now, but with a buy out they get an additional $2.6mm in cap space
- Jsaquella

now jsaq is even more famous....they'll be no living with you now


http://www.csnphilly.com/...ing-down-phillies-manager :
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:38 PM ET
One thing is pretty clear with Hextall running the show. He is not going to tip his hand.
- MJL


Which is giving more optimism about this organization then I have had in years.... Hexy really starting to seriously impress me
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 27 @ 6:38 PM ET
Does Gagner's contract structure result in a cheaper buyout than most players with his cap hit? Does his brief "stint" with Tampa make his situation odd with regards to a buyout?
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:41 PM ET
Does Gagner's contract structure result in a cheaper buyout than most players with his cap hit? Does his b
brief "stint" with Tampa make his situation odd with regards to a buyout?

- eayost


I believe I read it would be 633,000 this year and 831,000 next year,but I could be wrong
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:41 PM ET
Possibly, I don't know what his demands are.
- MJL

Adult pornstars?
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:41 PM ET
MDZ better lower his demands
- nonpoint22


lower his demands?

Many games he lead the team's D in minutes, played on PK, (not bad for a defensive liability). And he gave our attack a boost pinching in as a high scoring option.
Plus, he's our best skating defenseman right now by far, (excluding the top 5 prospects)
I don't agree, (on his part), he should sign another bridge deal, he proved himself this season, (despite moron Berube scratching him all the time).
And to top it off, he's not 35 years old, he's still only 24.
But what is he asking for? I haven't seen it discussed.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:42 PM ET
Just popped in; anyone know the buyout cap hit on Gagner?
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 27 @ 6:43 PM ET
I believe I read it would be 633,000 this year and 831,000 next year,but I could be wrong
- nonpoint22


Does Tampa share some of that since they retained salary when he was traded to the Coyotes?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:43 PM ET
With Sanhiem and Provorov I think it's less likely than ever that we trade for Phanuef.
- hereticpride



Hextall has just started to get the Flyers out of cap trouble....why the heck would he put them right back in trouble ? They still have to pay Vorecek....they have some other young guys that will haves to be paid in the next couple of years....Hexy will stay the coarse.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 6:44 PM ET
Just popped in; anyone know the buyout cap hit on Gagner?
- BiggE


https://twitter.com/gener...status/614897173017292800

@generalfanager
So the buyout cap hits shown on our buyout calculator would actually be split as:
PHI: $422,222 and $555,555
TBL: $211,111 and $277,778
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 27 @ 6:44 PM ET
If the flyers buy out Gagner he's on tampa's cap for 2 years instead of 1.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:45 PM ET
Does Gagner's contract structure result in a cheaper buyout than most players with his cap hit? Does his brief "stint" with Tampa make his situation odd with regards to a buyout?
- eayost


His buyout is 1/3 of his salary because of his age. It's 2/3rds for players over 26.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:46 PM ET
https://twitter.com/generalfanager/status/614897173017292800

@generalfanager
So the buyout cap hits shown on our buyout calculator would actually be split as:
PHI: $422,222 and $555,555
TBL: $211,111 and $277,778

- Feanor

I can live with that, thanks
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:46 PM ET
lower his demands?

Many games he lead the team's D in minutes, played on PK, (not bad for a defensive liability). And he gave our attack a boost pinching in as a high scoring option.
Plus, he's our best skating defenseman right now by far, (excluding the top 5 prospects)
I don't agree, (on his part), he should sign another bridge deal, he proved himself this season, (despite moron Berube scratching him all the time).
And to top it off, he's not 35 years old, he's still only 24.
But what is he asking for? I haven't seen it discussed.

- puckhead17


Berube wasn't a moron for scratching him. That helped Del Zotto fix some issues in his game, and made him a better player.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Jun 27 @ 6:47 PM ET
https://twitter.com/generalfanager/status/614897173017292800

@generalfanager
So the buyout cap hits shown on our buyout calculator would actually be split as:
PHI: $422,222 and $555,555
TBL: $211,111 and $277,778

- Feanor


That answers my question. Thanks
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Jun 27 @ 6:49 PM ET
General Fanager ‏@generalfanager 5h5 hours ago
And don't get too comfortable.

Qualifying offers due: 6/29
Final day for buyouts: 6/30
RFAs can meet w/ teams: 6/30
Free agency opens: 7/1

Looks like we're going to find out whether Gagner gets bought out sooner rather than later
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:54 PM ET
https://twitter.com/generalfanager/status/614897173017292800

@generalfanager
So the buyout cap hits shown on our buyout calculator would actually be split as:
PHI: $422,222 and $555,555
TBL: $211,111 and $277,778

- Feanor


Sucks for Tampa.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:54 PM ET
Just popped in; anyone know the buyout cap hit on Gagner?
- BiggE

I think it was 625k

I thought you said just pooped. I was like that's nice.

But then...yeah I read it again and well that's not what it said.

EDIT: Ok wait why is it split between TB and Phi?
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 6:57 PM ET
Berube wasn't a moron for scratching him. That helped Del Zotto fix some issues in his game, and made him a better player.
- MJL

Your opinion, it didn't take him 12 scratches in a row to understand to watch his pinching, (no offense, but I remember Streit getting caught up ice during many 2 on 1's).

While dressing 2 pylons like Grossmann, & Luke together.

I liked Grossmann, he's a warrior, but you have 2 D men dressed that lack foot speed, while scratching your best skating defenseman?
Especially in the speed of todays game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 7:00 PM ET
Your opinion, it didn't take him 12 scratches in a row to understand to watch his pinching, (no offense, but I remember Streit getting caught up ice during many 2 on 1's).

While dressing 2 pylons like Grossmann, & Luke together.

I liked Grossmann, he's a warrior, but you have 2 D men dressed that lack foot speed, while scratching your best skating defenseman?
Especially in the speed of todays game.

- puckhead17


How do you know, Berube was able to watch him in practice, and see the results. I think it was a little too long also, but I'm not around the team on a daily basis. Berube helped Del Zotto adjust his game, and fix an issue that he had. Del Zotto played his way off of the Rangers, Nashville walked away from him, but Berube is moron for sitting him for 12 games. Berube helped Del Zotto become a better player.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jun 27 @ 7:02 PM ET
i remember being so against that casting choice when i first heard about it

did a full 180 after actually seeing him in it

- Crimsoninja

I wont watch the new one solely due to Ben Affleck
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 7:03 PM ET
By my calculations, the Flyers currently have about $6,745,833 of real cap space. It could be more if they buyout Gagner. They also have an additional 7.4M for the off season 10% exemption to play with. Keep in mind that a lot of that is taken up by players such as Manning, and what they need to carry in the off season for the call ups they made last season.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 27 @ 7:06 PM ET
How do you know, Berube was able to watch him in practice, and see the results. I think it was a little too long also, but I'm not around the team on a daily basis. Berube helped Del Zotto adjust his game, and fix an issue that he had. Del Zotto played his way off of the Rangers, Nashville walked away from him, but Berube is moron for sitting him for 12 games. Berube helped Del Zotto become a better player.
- MJL


You seem to overlook who he's dressing while MDV was sitting every night.
I mentioned it, but all you can do is protect Berube.
It's not like he had faster, more skillful playing options.
He had maturity issues in NY, & Nashville, we all know that, but Berube is a genius for singling him out, while dressing the 2 pylons together?
Edit: Yeah, pinching in too often, that was the issue, he did play much better in the D zone as well.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 27 @ 7:07 PM ET
So I'm responsible and have been working on a paper for the past 3 hours, and hexy just continues to kick ass and take names..
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