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MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:07 PM ET
Love the Kane trade, Love the ROR trade, Lehner trade not thrilled with but we will see.

He doesnt over pay, we are just used to DR doing nothing unless he can rob a team, Murray wants a player he does something about it. I like that. And no, he won't win every trade, but at least he's making moves and bringing in front line players.

- Homer


I agree. They asked TM that very question earlier and he said, "I'm not trying to "win" a trade, I'm trying to make the Sabres a better team"
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:07 PM ET
I agree, nothing against Samson, but the management has more options with ROR and Legwand to ease him in, if he excels during training camp, ok, but His number one attribute is his hockey sense and ease at which he makes plays, that isn't going away if he plays 30-40 games with the big club and some down in the A.
- MEBSabresFAN


Lets say we don't bring in any other forwards and Sam starts in Roch...

Kane Eichel Moulson
Ennis ROR Gionta
Folingo Girgs McGinn
DLO Larsson Legwand
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:11 PM ET
I agree. They asked TM that very question earlier and he said, "I'm not trying to "win" a trade, I'm trying to make the Sabres a better team"
- MEBSabresFAN


I'd rather win hockey games than win trades...
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:12 PM ET
Lets say we don't bring in any other forwards and Sam starts in Roch...

Kane Eichel Moulson
Ennis ROR Gionta
Folingo Girgs McGinn
DLO Larsson Legwand

- Homer



Nice

This is why getting a Proven Talent like ROR was worth every penny, the team wants to develop the 2 highest Centermen ever drafted by the Sabres since Gilbert and Sneaky Pete.

P.S. Imagine if Echiel or McDavid were one year apart? We would have lost out on BOTH!
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:13 PM ET
Anymore trades today ? Just got done moving daughter in law.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:13 PM ET
eichel, reinhart, girgens, ennis foligno, pysyk, risto, weber

prospects
mccabe, baptiste, bailey, petersen, ullmark, karabacek, malone, cornel, hurley, florentino, martin


lots of drafted players in the organization still

- homiedclown



Outside of the first 3 u list, I doubt any of them spend significant time above our 3rd pair or 4th line
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:14 PM ET
Anymore trades today ? Just got done moving daughter in law.
- cabin

Chris pronger was traded
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:15 PM ET
Outside of the first 3 u list, I doubt any of them spend significant time above our 3rd pair or 4th line
- jdfitz77



You must be referring to Just our prospects?

Its a bit early to know for certain about them, but you never know.

Just ask Ottawa how it worked out with Stone (5th Rd) and Hoffman (5th Rd)

P.S. Murray was involved in scouting them I think
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:15 PM ET
Chris pronger was traded
- Mentalorgasm5

as a greater at wallmart ?
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:16 PM ET
Outside of the first 3 u list, I doubt any of them spend significant time above our 3rd pair or 4th line
- jdfitz77


and thats fine
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:17 PM ET
You really don't think Tyler Ennis can crack the Top 6?
- MEBSabresFAN


Of course he can, he already is.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:18 PM ET
Petry got 5.5 for 6

I'd rather pay jaybow 5.4 for 4


we have the money, it's 4 years from now when it gets tight

- homiedclown



He's a little old for our timeline,
But StL prob wants to she'd Cap
I'm guessing tues want a guy like Pysyk though
I'd pass
Rather have Pysyk for the next 10yrs than Jbo for the next 3/4

I wonder who we could reasonable get that's a younger guy
Hamilton would've been great, but I guess it makes sense that Boston wouldn't wanna move him to us
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:19 PM ET
and thats fine
- Homer



That's fine?
Disagree sir
MEBSabresFAN
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lancaster, NY
Joined: 07.17.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:21 PM ET
That's fine?
Disagree sir

- jdfitz77



We have improved our scouting staff considerably.

DarcyVision is no longer in use

Remember when Darcy was lauded after the lockout for his forsight? It went to his head as they decided it would be more economical for Golisano to go to Video Scouts
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:25 PM ET
That's fine?
Disagree sir

- jdfitz77


Well you can only have 6 guys in your top 6 (Look, I can do math) and we already have, well 6. So why do we need these prospects to be anything but 3-4th line guys??

The six btw are Eichel, ROR, Reinhart, Kane, Ennis, Girgs.....I'm not even counting Moulson because I'm think more in a few years, not next season.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 27 @ 6:27 PM ET
All you people complaining we made trades are the same people that wanted us to get better faster. Well we did. You guys are not comprehending that we didn't trade prospects for 30 year old rentals or over the hill players. We traded prospects for 23-24 year olds. Those are basically guys only a couple years older than our "prospects" except they are all star/Olympic caliber players. murray did very VERY well this weekend.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:28 PM ET
All you people complaining we made trades are the same people that wanted us to get better faster. Well we did. You guys are not comprehending that we didn't trade prospects for 30 year old rentals or over the hill players. We traded prospects for 23-24 year olds. Those are basically guys only a couple years older than our "prospects" except they are all star/Olympic caliber players. murray did very VERY well this weekend.
- Fattony1187


Agree.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 6:30 PM ET
All you people complaining we made trades are the same people that wanted us to get better faster. Well we did. You guys are not comprehending that we didn't trade prospects for 30 year old rentals or over the hill players. We traded prospects for 23-24 year olds. Those are basically guys only a couple years older than our "prospects" except they are all star/Olympic caliber players. murray did very VERY well this weekend.
- Fattony1187


Well said
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:48 PM ET
Well you can only have 6 guys in your top 6 (Look, I can do math) and we already have, well 6. So why do we need these prospects to be anything but 3-4th line guys??

The six btw are Eichel, ROR, Reinhart, Kane, Ennis, Girgs.....I'm not even counting Moulson because I'm think more in a few years, not next season.

- Homer



Can we afford to pay all those guys 7mil + on their next contracts?
BC there's potential for all of them to outscore ROR
And Risto & Bogo will get paid
And if Lehner ends up being the #1 Murray says, he's getting 6mil a year too

I'm more looking down the line I guess
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:50 PM ET
We have improved our scouting staff considerably.

DarcyVision is no longer in use

Remember when Darcy was lauded after the lockout for his forsight? It went to his head as they decided it would be more economical for Golisano to go to Video Scouts

- MEBSabresFAN



Darcy's last draft will go down as one of the Sabres best ever drafts
If Murray doesn't trade them all
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:51 PM ET
Can we afford to pay all those guys 7mil + on their next contracts?
BC there's potential for all of them to outscore ROR
And Risto & Bogo will get paid
And if Lehner ends up being the #1 Murray says, he's getting 6mil a year too

I'm more looking down the line I guess

- jdfitz77


If this is our biggest problem then life is good. It really is amazing how - presumably because we've never won - we have become concerned that we might become good.

If we can't pay some of them down the line then we do what Colorado did. Circle of NHL life.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:52 PM ET
Darcy's last draft will go down as one of the Sabres best ever drafts
If Murray doesn't trade them all

- jdfitz77


It's still an excellent draft regardless of what Murray does. It isn't like we're losing guys because of jammed fax machines.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:53 PM ET
me and you are going to debate this the whole year i can't wait
- gerbe75pts



I'd be happy with either
Both gonna be good
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 27 @ 6:56 PM ET
If this is our biggest problem then life is good. It really is amazing how - presumably because we've never won - we have become concerned that we might become good.

If we can't pay some of them down the line then we do what Colorado did. Circle of NHL life.

- Slump Buster



Lol
That's a fair point
I guess once we win a couple Cups & have to let players go, then I can be pissed
But if we don't win....

See; San Jose sharks
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 27 @ 6:58 PM ET
Lol
That's a fair point
I guess once we win a couple Cups & have to let players go, then I can be pissed
But if we don't win....

See; San Jose sharks

- jdfitz77


Sure, but at least the Sharks tried. Other teams were just better.
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