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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Sabres draft-day makeover: Jack Eichel, Robil Lehner, Ryan O'Reilly
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rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:17 PM ET
Gotcha.

I'm screwed up as well lol.

Golf- left

hockey-left

baseball- bat left and throw right

tennis- right

bowling- right

- mhp


Me too. Right eye dominant.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:17 PM ET
1000!!!!

Edit: 1001 haha

sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:18 PM ET
So what does everybody think about our picks 2-7? Hits/misses, hidden gems, projects/long shots, you get the point.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jun 28 @ 12:21 PM ET
Sounds like Murray wanted a different goalie...
- rcostel77


I would have done 31 for Lack but in the end, what's done is done. You have to credit to Murray, he has a plan and he is sticking to it. We are definitely a harder team to play against.

Regarding trades, it amazes me, all of us spend a lot of time discussing who "won" and who "lost" trade "x". I think Regier probably "won" many more trades than he lost and where did that get us? In the end, the only "win" that I am concerned about is winning the Stanley Cup. After the last few days, I think we have moved significantly closer - but we are still obviously a number of years away.

I hope I am wrong about Lehner and he can bounce back from his concussion. I imagine he will be incredibly motivated to prove Ottawa and others wrong about him.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:21 PM ET
So what does everybody think about our picks 2-7? Hits/misses, hidden gems, projects/long shots, you get the point.
- sskkoo1


They reached a bit at 51, but not having a 3rd rounder meant in my eyes they really liked the kid.

Adding defensemen was huge IMO. There is a good balance of forwards and defensemen in the prospect pool now.

The only thing they didn't do is draft a goalie which I am surprised by.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:22 PM ET
Kings buying out Mike Richards
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 28 @ 12:22 PM ET
I would have done 31 for Lack but in the end, what's done is done. You have to credit to Murray, he has a plan and he is sticking to it. We are definitely a harder team to play against.

Regarding trades, it amazes me, all of us spend a lot of time discussing who "won" and who "lost" trade "x". I think Regier probably "won" many more trades than he lost and where did that get us? In the end, the only "win" that I am concerned about is winning the Stanley Cup. After the last few days, I think we have moved significantly closer - but we are still obviously a number of years away.

I hope I am wrong about Lehner and he can bounce back from his concussion. I imagine he will be incredibly motivated to prove Ottawa and others wrong about him.

- SabreWest


Absolutely - the talk of who may have won a trade completely misses the point. As TM said, his goal is to make the team better and not "win" trades.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:24 PM ET
Still no Hodgson on buyout yet.

Murray is trying to move him IMO
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 28 @ 12:24 PM ET
Kings buying out Mike Richards
- Stripes77


Wow. The Leafs asking price to do it for them must have been extraordinary.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:27 PM ET
If Eichel is as good as advertised, it's possible with O'Reilly that we could seriously compete for a cup after this season. If you look at how players comparable to Eichel (Stamkos, Kane, Tavares, mainly other #1 or #2 picks) perform than he should be a bonafide #1 center in year two.


With that being said, someone like Oduya needs to be priority #1. He is a great skater who never gets tired, he will still be effective until probably 36 or 37 years old. A 4 year deal would be fine.

Only issue is he isn't a great #2, he's a better fit on the 2nd pair with Bogosian.

If we are able to sign someone like Beleskey, can Foligno ++ land us a top 2 defensemen ?

mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:27 PM ET
I think this is the top 5 UFA's that sign first on Wednesday.

Mike Green- San Jose, NJ
Paul Martin- NJ, Arizona
Antoine Vermette- Washington, Florida
Justin Williams- Nashville, Washington
Michael Frolik- Nashville, Pittsburgh
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 12:27 PM ET
Sounds like Murray wanted a different goalie...
- rcostel77


would have been way happier with Anderson oh well what are you going to do
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 28 @ 12:28 PM ET
If Eichel is as good as advertised, it's possible with O'Reilly that we could seriously compete for a cup after this season. If you look at how players comparable to Eichel (Stamkos, Kane, Tavares, mainly other #1 or #2 picks) perform than he should be a bonafide #1 center in year two.


With that being said, someone like Oduya needs to be priority #1. He is a great skater who never gets tired, he will still be effective until probably 36 or 37 years old. A 4 year deal would be fine.

Only issue is he isn't a great #2, he's a better fit on the 2nd pair with Bogosian.

If we are able to sign someone like Beleskey, can Foligno ++ land us a top 2 defensemen ?

- sbroads24


It would take way more than that to land a top 2 defenseman. Like a #1c, almost everyone is looking for one. That's why it was hard to part with Zadorov - he might grow into one.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 12:29 PM ET
If Eichel is as good as advertised, it's possible with O'Reilly that we could seriously compete for a cup after this season. If you look at how players comparable to Eichel (Stamkos, Kane, Tavares, mainly other #1 or #2 picks) perform than he should be a bonafide #1 center in year two.


With that being said, someone like Oduya needs to be priority #1. He is a great skater who never gets tired, he will still be effective until probably 36 or 37 years old. A 4 year deal would be fine.

Only issue is he isn't a great #2, he's a better fit on the 2nd pair with Bogosian.

If we are able to sign someone like Beleskey, can Foligno ++ land us a top 2 defensemen ?

- sbroads24


No to Beleskey
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:29 PM ET
They reached a bit at 51, but not having a 3rd rounder meant in my eyes they really liked the kid.

Adding defensemen was huge IMO. There is a good balance of forwards and defensemen in the prospect pool now.

The only thing they didn't do is draft a goalie which I am surprised by.

- Stripes77


I was glad to see them take so many defensemen too. But this kid at 51 seems to be a beast and you just can't teach athleticism. I think he'll be a nice piece in 3-4 years. I hope that Goregio Esteban kid makes it someday just for his name alone.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:29 PM ET
So what does everybody think about our picks 2-7? Hits/misses, hidden gems, projects/long shots, you get the point.
- sskkoo1



I like the Will Borgen pick.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:31 PM ET
If Eichel is as good as advertised, it's possible with O'Reilly that we could seriously compete for a cup after this season. If you look at how players comparable to Eichel (Stamkos, Kane, Tavares, mainly other #1 or #2 picks) perform than he should be a bonafide #1 center in year two.


With that being said, someone like Oduya needs to be priority #1. He is a great skater who never gets tired, he will still be effective until probably 36 or 37 years old. A 4 year deal would be fine.

Only issue is he isn't a great #2, he's a better fit on the 2nd pair with Bogosian.

If we are able to sign someone like Beleskey, can Foligno ++ land us a top 2 defensemen ?

- sbroads24


Foligno a 2016 first round maybe...

But like I have said before, I would send Reinhart, 2016 first, Foligno for OEL and call it a day:

OEL Risto
Bogosian Oduya
Pysyk Gorges
Weber

Kane ROR Ennis
Moulson Eichel Girgensons
McGinn Larsson Gionta
Deslauriers Legwand FA

or sign Frolik

Kane ROR Ennis
Moulsons Eichel Frolik
McGinn Girgensons Gionta
Deslauriers Legwand Larsson
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:33 PM ET
It would take way more than that to land a top 2 defenseman. Like a #1c, almost everyone is looking for one. That's why it was hard to part with Zadorov - he might grow into one.
- Slump Buster

What about going after Gio ?

He'd be 31 or 32 I think.


Their future top 2 is obviously Hamilton and Brodie, and Russell is no sl9uch. With them drafting Kylington I think they are gearing up to let him walk if he wants too much
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:37 PM ET
Still no Hodgson on buyout yet.

Murray is trying to move him IMO

- Stripes77


What is the cutoff date for the buyout, July 1st?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:38 PM ET
What is the cutoff date for the buyout, July 1st?
- mhp


Tuesday at noon
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:39 PM ET
would have been way happier with Anderson oh well what are you going to do
- gerbe75pts

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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 12:39 PM ET
Tuesday at noon
- Stripes77


He better be gone
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 28 @ 12:39 PM ET
Good info here Stripes.
Reading back this morning I was shocked by, IMO of the rather significant over-reaction to the moves by GMTM.
Will the Sabres win each deal, maybe not, did they get better...absolutely.
After 17 years of paralysis by analysis, I am glad to see a guy at the top with balls and conviction running the show.
I too think he "overpaid" for Lehner when looking strictly at his numbers...which are average by a young goalie...but when one considers the other factors, combined with air be as his coach...I'm hopeful we have our starter who will be Obote average at a relatively low cost that fits perfectly with our timeline.

- IonSabres



Think of it as a 3 team deal.

Buff

ROR
Lehner
McGinn
Legwand

Ott

#21

Colorado

Zads
Grigs
Compher
#31

Also Pominville and a 4td has now gotten you Hackett, Larsson, Karabacek, ROR, McGinn.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:41 PM ET
I think this is the top 5 UFA's that sign first on Wednesday.

Mike Green- San Jose, NJ
Paul Martin- NJ, Arizona
Antoine Vermette- Washington, Florida
Justin Williams- Nashville, Washington
Michael Frolik- Nashville, Pittsburgh

- mhp

Brad Richardson for the 4th line?


I can get behind a 4th line of deslaurers, richardson and foligno
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:42 PM ET
He better be gone
- gerbe75pts



Michael Augelloā€¸@MikeInBuffalo
With the acquisitions of O'Reilly and Legwand, expect Cody Hodgson to be bought before 12 Noon on Tuesday. #Sabres

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