What is this love for Oshie, he's really not that good & up for a new contract soon.
- ob18

I talked about dealing for Shattenkirk and taking Oshie, because rumor was St Louis wanted him out. My intent was to then flip Oshie for picks either at or before the TDL.

you think Vinny is already agreed to mutual termination after july
- Winning

no

you think Vinny is already agreed to mutual termination after july
- Winning

no, but I still think that is what he going to do. It is a no brainer for him.

no, but I still think that is what he going to do. It is a no brainer for him.
- MBFlyerfan

There's pride and anger dumped into the situation...what a mess.

What is this love for Oshie, he's really not that good & up for a new contract soon.
- ob18

TJ Oshie is a very good player? Just over rated by the majority of hockey fans.

I talked about dealing for Shattenkirk and taking Oshie, because rumor was St Louis wanted him out. My intent was to then flip Oshie for picks either at or before the TDL.
- Jsaquella

I hadnt realized that Oshie only has one 20 goal season, which was also his only 60 point season.

I hadnt realized that Oshie only has one 20 goal season, which was also his only 60 point season.
- Doc_Sarcasm

Yeah, he's got this repuatation as a big point producer and it's really not the case. The age and FA status worry me as much as that in terms of adding him

There's pride and anger dumped into the situation...what a mess.
- Jsaquella

Probably true, but I doubt his pride and anger, or his family, or his desire to play, trumps his desire to collect the remainder of his contract while sitting in the press box. Especially since he is still getting paid a hefty amount by Tampa.

Yeah, he's got this repuatation as a big point producer and it's really not the case. The age and FA status worry me as much as that in terms of adding him
- Jsaquella

Yeah Oshie put up good numbers for North Dakota and was definitely hyped as a scorer when he was drafted 24th overall. After playing nearly 7 seasons at the NHL level it looks like he's leveled off as a top 6 guy that you can hope for 20G and 50-60 points from. Pass.

And Kessel? Really people? LOL good god no.

TJ Oshie is a very good player? Just over rated by the majority of hockey fans.
- mochoson

Considering the slow start he had last season, coupled with the injury, he had a pretty productive year. He may be close to breaking out as a point producer.

But with that being said, he isn't the player some make him out to be.

Considering the slow start he had last season, coupled with the injury, he had a pretty productive year. He may be close to breaking out as a point producer.

But with that being said, he isn't the player some make him out to be.
- MBFlyerfan

Also playing nearly 7 seasons you'd think if he was going to break out and become an All-Star or top line point producer it'd be around season 5-6.

Considering the slow start he had last season, coupled with the injury, he had a pretty productive year. He may be close to breaking out as a point producer.

But with that being said, he isn't the player some make him out to be.
- MBFlyerfan

He's getting older, he's still a decent player, but he's a role player, not a foundation piece.

There's pride and anger dumped into the situation...what a mess.
- Jsaquella

Think positive thoughts, let the good work this weekend carry onwards.
Pride and anger and also the fact he is toast and needs to admit it.
RJU too

Yeah Oshie put up good numbers for North Dakota and was definitely hyped as a scorer when he was drafted 24th overall. After playing nearly 7 seasons at the NHL level it looks like he's leveled off as a top 6 guy that you can hope for 20G and 50-60 points from. Pass.

And Kessel? Really people? LOL good god no.
- Pixote Andolini

Kessel is one of the top finishers in the league. I think he gets a bit more of a bad rep than is deserved. The contract and age are bigger concerns than anything with him, tho, for me

you think Vinny is already agreed to mutual termination after july
- Winning

Would you?

Would you?
- Just5

Yes absolutely, if I were him.

Would you?
- Just5

If I had already made $100 million I'd be more interested in my quality of life than $10 million dollars.

If I had already made $100 million I'd be more interested in my quality of life than $10 million dollars.
- jstross

Now research how much of that he's given to charity & the cuts his agent has received

If I had already made $100 million I'd be more interested in my quality of life than $10 million dollars.
- jstross

PLus he can still bank on 1.76 million from Tampa for each of the next 12 years.

We have to stop thinking of him as a guy who has a couple thousand in the bank like most of us normal schlubs. Money is no object here.

He will chose the termination because he WANTS TO PLAY HOCKEY. He isn't playing hockey here.

If I had already made $100 million I'd be more interested in my quality of life than $10 million dollars.
- jstross

Man, what I'd do to be paid millions to watch flyers games box seats

Now research how much of that he's given to charity & the cuts his agent has received
- ob18

Add in endorsements, free stuff, investments... I'm sure he's not hurting for money. If he is then shame on him.

Now research how much of that he's given to charity & the cuts his agent has received
- ob18

I don't have to research it to know that the answer isnt "all of it."

Man, what I'd do to be paid millions to watch flyers games
- Just5

As an athlete who doesn't think he's done that would eat him alive.

so how's the kessel run these days?

I don't have to research it to know that the answer isnt "all of it."
- MBFlyerfan

I'm sure it's not but he doesn't have all the coin & even if he did most who have that want even more, he's not going to walk away (or at least I don't think) from what he's owed on this deal.