All the best to him. We're all happy with Snow's killing of the draft
- Vukota

Snow did really well imo in this draft year, especially considering that this year was a solid year in talent.

Totally agree on the trade, but its a difference of opinion of how Reinhart is being perceived. Grant it, bigger dmen do take longer to develop and which may be the case, but bc the isles had 2 others that have surpassed Reinhart made the luxury for the isles to make this type of trade. Time will tell on Reinhart, but not from an islander perspective bc the isles already have 3 dmen signed long-term and 1 possible stud in the wings. Really hope the kid works out for the Oilers and do believe he wanted to be closer to home or wherever.
I personally didn't like the pick then, and glad to see that a good return was obtained. Best of luck to Griffin & the Oilers......
- Ur Not Me

Honestly, I think the Reinhart trade was good for both sides.

For Edmonton: Reinhart was a local legend (Oil Kings), he loves the area and wants to be part of the team (Which is a big bonus down the road since he will be motivated), and he has the tools to be a Top 2 Great defender (Which the Oilers badly need).

For the Islanders: You get the 16th pick, which in turn was Barzal and I think that is the only reason New York made that trade; if he wasn't there, this trade would not have been done. Barzal is going to turn out to be a good Top 6 centre if he reaches his ceiling; his minimum would be a Top 9 Centre; good vision, good skating; great player overall.

As for Reinhart's development; his skating needs quite some work, but his vision, size, stick-handling, and shot are all in his favor. If he develops to his ceiling, he would definitely be a Top 2 amazing defender, if not, he still will be a great Top 4 defender. I think that if he spends one more year down in the AHL, he will be ready for that big jump.

I've noticed the bashing done by the NYI blogger on Reinhart, but have you ever considered that he was not motivated when he came to New York? Granted that WHL to the AHL is a significant jump, but like one philosopher once said, excellence then is not an act, but a habit; plus defenders take a lot of time to develop; especially bigger defencemen.
- EdmHockeyMan

i dont think anyone is saying GR wont be good at some point...i think a lot would say the isles reached for him at 4...he most likely wont be a top 2 dman...the trade was done because 1) they have depth a defense 2) despite the few years of development Barzal would be ranked higher on the isles prospect chart then GR had he remained in the organization.

Honestly, I think the Reinhart trade was good for both sides.

For Edmonton: Reinhart was a local legend (Oil Kings), he loves the area and wants to be part of the team (Which is a big bonus down the road since he will be motivated), and he has the tools to be a Top 2 Great defender (Which the Oilers badly need).

For the Islanders: You get the 16th pick, which in turn was Barzal and I think that is the only reason New York made that trade; if he wasn't there, this trade would not have been done. Barzal is going to turn out to be a good Top 6 centre if he reaches his ceiling; his minimum would be a Top 9 Centre; good vision, good skating; great player overall.

As for Reinhart's development; his skating needs quite some work, but his vision, size, stick-handling, and shot are all in his favor. If he develops to his ceiling, he would definitely be a Top 2 amazing defender, if not, he still will be a great Top 4 defender. I think that if he spends one more year down in the AHL, he will be ready for that big jump.

I've noticed the bashing done by the NYI blogger on Reinhart, but have you ever considered that he was not motivated when he came to New York? Granted that WHL to the AHL is a significant jump, but like one philosopher once said, excellence then is not an act, but a habit; plus defenders take a lot of time to develop; especially bigger defencemen.
- EdmHockeyMan

4th pick in the draft and you need motivation to play in the nhl? Also I have a name it's dan, lol. I'm not bashing him just giving an honest opinion from what I have seen in the Ahl

One, I get. If we need Hickey for two years, we're f***ed. At least Snow isn't paying him $5M....oh, that's right, we're not the Flyers.
- dcb1

i guess weve officially entered the "blowing minor signings out of proportion" part of the offseason. hickey for 2 years is no big deal...as a 6/7/8th dman, hes fine. lets move on.

Honestly, I think the Reinhart trade was good for both sides.

For Edmonton: Reinhart was a local legend (Oil Kings), he loves the area and wants to be part of the team (Which is a big bonus down the road since he will be motivated), and he has the tools to be a Top 2 Great defender (Which the Oilers badly need).

For the Islanders: You get the 16th pick, which in turn was Barzal and I think that is the only reason New York made that trade; if he wasn't there, this trade would not have been done. Barzal is going to turn out to be a good Top 6 centre if he reaches his ceiling; his minimum would be a Top 9 Centre; good vision, good skating; great player overall.

As for Reinhart's development; his skating needs quite some work, but his vision, size, stick-handling, and shot are all in his favor. If he develops to his ceiling, he would definitely be a Top 2 amazing defender, if not, he still will be a great Top 4 defender. I think that if he spends one more year down in the AHL, he will be ready for that big jump.

I've noticed the bashing done by the NYI blogger on Reinhart, but have you ever considered that he was not motivated when he came to New York? Granted that WHL to the AHL is a significant jump, but like one philosopher once said, excellence then is not an act, but a habit; plus defenders take a lot of time to develop; especially bigger defencemen.
- EdmHockeyMan

If you think Reinhart has the tools to be a top-2 defenseman in the NHL, prepare to be disappointed. The only thing he does well at the pro level is be 6'5". He is slow in both skating and, maybe even more importantly, "seeing/processing" the game (like when they say the game seems to "slow down" for a great player, it is the opposite for GR who takes too long to decide where to go or what do on the ice). And lest you think this is sour grapes/kicking in the back out the door, take a gander at the thread here after game 5 of the Isles-Caps series from 2 months ago.

He may be a serviceable NHL defenseman but not anytime soon and not anything great.

4th pick in the draft and you need motivation to play in the nhl? Also I have a name it's dan, lol. I'm not bashing him just giving an honest opinion from what I have seen in the Ahl
- Dan Petriw

You can't fix awareness- that's what worries me most with that one. It also doesn't help that he skates like he crapped his diaper. Of course, the latter can be worked on to an extent. If the former is a real issue, however, that's a fleecing of epic proportions by Garth.

You can't fix awareness- that's what worries me most with that one. It also doesn't help that he skates like he crapped his diaper. Of course, the latter can be worked on to an extent. If the former is a real issue, that's a fleecing of epic proportions by Garth.
- dcb1

I think griff can play In the nhl once he has developed and becomes a better skater and is stronger. I'm not calling him a bust, but he has massive red flags and I think this was a great recovery by snow. I hope I'm wrong about griff but I don't see it

Mike Vogel ‏@VogsCaps 4m4 minutes ago

#Caps re-signed C Jay Beagle to 3-year extension. AAV: $1.75 mil. Salaries: $1.45 mil in '15-16, $1.75 in 16-17, 17-18. $300K bonus, 15-16.

4th pick in the draft and you need motivation to play in the nhl? Also I have a name it's dan, lol. I'm not bashing him just giving an honest opinion from what I have seen in the Ahl
- Dan Petriw

U player Beagle signed w/Caps.....


funny thing is u and Ek have the same perception of Beagle, that's scary...

U player Beagle signed w/Caps.....


funny thing is u and Ek have the same perception of Beagle, that's scary...
- Ur Not Me

He is the type of player you need on a good hockey team

Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 2m2 minutes ago

Arthur Staple retweeted kyle lamb

Still think they're going to move Grabner at some pt, but aside from backup G and depth D, I don't see anything big.

Oduya heading to free agency
- Vukota

Like to take a shot

Like to take a shot
- Cptmjl

Money? I heard that about you.

I don't get what you don't get. He is a good depth defenseman; positionally sound, durable and has some offensive skill.
- Snowblind

I don't agree with this and I have no idea how this myth ever started? Some people make him out to be Kenny Jonnson and it couldn't be further from the truth.

Honestly, I think the Reinhart trade was good for both sides.

For Edmonton: Reinhart was a local legend (Oil Kings), he loves the area and wants to be part of the team (Which is a big bonus down the road since he will be motivated), and he has the tools to be a Top 2 Great defender (Which the Oilers badly need).

For the Islanders: You get the 16th pick, which in turn was Barzal and I think that is the only reason New York made that trade; if he wasn't there, this trade would not have been done. Barzal is going to turn out to be a good Top 6 centre if he reaches his ceiling; his minimum would be a Top 9 Centre; good vision, good skating; great player overall.

As for Reinhart's development; his skating needs quite some work, but his vision, size, stick-handling, and shot are all in his favor. If he develops to his ceiling, he would definitely be a Top 2 amazing defender, if not, he still will be a great Top 4 defender. I think that if he spends one more year down in the AHL, he will be ready for that big jump.

I've noticed the bashing done by the NYI blogger on Reinhart, but have you ever considered that he was not motivated when he came to New York? Granted that WHL to the AHL is a significant jump, but like one philosopher once said, excellence then is not an act, but a habit; plus defenders take a lot of time to develop; especially bigger defencemen.
- EdmHockeyMan

In all honesty I was never big on Reinhart as anyone here can attest too. He's a prima donna who thought he was good enough to play in the NHL the year after we drafted him which couldn't have been further from the truth. As far as his skills go it was impossible to see due to him being completely over matched in both the AHL and NHL. As far as the bold goes if he needs motivation when he's transitioning from juniors to pro that speaks volumes about the player himself.

I'm not saying he's a bust but I for one wanted him traded last season when his value may have been a little higher before anyone saw him play at this level and hurt his value. Unfortunately most people caught on to it. I was hoping to somehow pry Yak away from you guys the beginning of last season with Reinhart being part of the deal. With all of this said I agree defenseman especially big ones develop at a slower rate for the most part so who knows but from what I've seen first hand and heard in the AHL I'm couldn't be happier with the trade. Also, Dan(our blogger)probably watched him play every game in the AHL being he's from Connecticut and has never liked his game there from day one. It's not sour apples due to the kid being traded. His opinion has been consistent from the first day he's watched him. I hope he works out for you none the less. He very well may in time after all I never thought Chara would amount to anything when we drafted him either

i dont think anyone is saying GR wont be good at some point...i think a lot would say the isles reached for him at 4...he most likely wont be a top 2 dman...the trade was done because 1) they have depth a defense 2) despite the few years of development Barzal would be ranked higher on the isles prospect chart then GR had he remained in the organization.
- LetsGoIsles

and also Reinhart was light years away in his development as compared to Mayfield and Pulock. I think that's what made him expendable more so than anything else.

Money? I heard that about you.
- mdw7413

What else have you heard?

U player Beagle signed w/Caps.....


funny thing is u and Ek have the same perception of Beagle, that's scary...
- Ur Not Me

I got a name for you. Eric Fehr

i guess weve officially entered the "blowing minor signings out of proportion" part of the offseason. hickey for 2 years is no big deal...as a 6/7/8th dman, hes fine. lets move on.
- LetsGoIsles

Um...

What else have you heard?
- Cptmjl

I don't want to get banned.

I don't want to get banned.
- mdw7413

Has to happen eventually. Speaking of which what the hell did you guys do over in the Oilers thread to get it locked?

I got a name for you. Eric Fehr
- Cptmjl

I have a funny feeling about him too, Fehr could take FO's and can play W
Not sure if I would ike him tho.....

Honestly, I think the Reinhart trade was good for both sides.

For Edmonton: Reinhart was a local legend (Oil Kings), he loves the area and wants to be part of the team (Which is a big bonus down the road since he will be motivated), and he has the tools to be a Top 2 Great defender (Which the Oilers badly need).

For the Islanders: You get the 16th pick, which in turn was Barzal and I think that is the only reason New York made that trade; if he wasn't there, this trade would not have been done. Barzal is going to turn out to be a good Top 6 centre if he reaches his ceiling; his minimum would be a Top 9 Centre; good vision, good skating; great player overall.

As for Reinhart's development; his skating needs quite some work, but his vision, size, stick-handling, and shot are all in his favor. If he develops to his ceiling, he would definitely be a Top 2 amazing defender, if not, he still will be a great Top 4 defender. I think that if he spends one more year down in the AHL, he will be ready for that big jump.

I've noticed the bashing done by the NYI blogger on Reinhart, but have you ever considered that he was not motivated when he came to New York? Granted that WHL to the AHL is a significant jump, but like one philosopher once said, excellence then is not an act, but a habit; plus defenders take a lot of time to develop; especially bigger defencemen.
- EdmHockeyMan

I am not one of those who was a Reinhart basher and I think he will be a good top four, possibly top pair d-man in a few years. But if the reason that he wasn't progressing as quickly as some of our other prospects was because "he wasn't motivated when he came to NY", then shame on him. If a kid can't get motivated to make an NHL squad that is not from his home town or team he "preferred" to play for, then he's not a kid I want on my team. Making the NHL should be all the motivation a kid needs to get his s**t together and perform. It shouldn't matter in what city that chance comes.

Mike Vogel ‏@VogsCaps 4m4 minutes ago

#Caps re-signed C Jay Beagle to 3-year extension. AAV: $1.75 mil. Salaries: $1.45 mil in '15-16, $1.75 in 16-17, 17-18. $300K bonus, 15-16.
- Vukota

that's a good signing for them.