That was the BEST offer on the table. That's his value folks. Deal with it!
- fidopro

Id rather have Kessel than that package. I never felt he needed to go.

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 2m2 minutes ago

As per @TSNBobMcKenzie, Penguins trade Spaling, Kapanen, Harrington and two picks to Leafs for Kessel and two other contracts...


- lumlums

I bet one is Robidas.

I like the deal.

Now just need one of the other 29 teams to sign franny.

That was the BEST offer on the table. That's his value folks. Deal with it!
- fidopro

That's why you don't trade star players. You never get fair value.

Look at Seguin, Thornton, etc.

The complete lack of talent outside of a few players is what killed them.
- daeth

most had them in the playoffs

all the guys saying 'this is an awful deal' are proving my point that there is no patience for a 'proper rebuild'.

heck, i'm one of the first ones on here to state that leafs should not do a 'full rebuild' going forward (several reasons) and I think it's a great trade.
ONLY 1.2mln (still 4.1mln left after Clarkson trade) and getting back a 1st, 2nd and first for Kessel... + apparently they resigned a proper replacement in Parenteau (again, his adv stats were quite good despite him being bought out).

was quite clear this was going this way.

now cue phaneuf traded with another 1-1.5mln retained

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 14s14 seconds ago
PIT would like to re-acquire the 2nd rounder in 2016 it traded for Daniel Winnik. TOR may take a contract to help Kessel deal get done.



- gravyface

Well it will suck for you guys for a couple years. But at least you guys will comitt to rebuild. It's sucked for us but when it's over it will be exciting for you again. Always better in arena when buff AND Toronto are good.

Length of kessel's contract really hurt you guys.

1.2 mil retained on kessel
- cheffrancesco

Dear Roger.


It appears you were not correct in saying the Leafs would not need to retain any salary.


Best of luck next time.


-Ro

most had them in the playoffs
- TincupCanuck

Lol

Kapanen, Harrington, Spaling, 1st rounder + unspecified draft pick coming Leafs way.

TSN panel basically saying it's a slam dunk for the Leafs.

Penguins need to win now, prospect cupboard is almost bare.

That was the BEST offer on the table. That's his value folks. Deal with it!
- fidopro

deals not finalized yet. deal with that first

Tankalicious

I can handle that if we haven't yet heard the full return the leafs got. If it ends up as

TO PIT
Kessel (-1.2mil)

TO TOR
Kapanen
Harrington
1st round pick 2016

that is an absolutely awful trade by the leafs. If that is all they could have got for Kessel they needed to keep him.
- mycokes

I thought TOR was also sending a 2nd rd pick?

Id rather have Kessel than that package. I never felt he needed to go.
- systemtool

Meh. I disagree. Time to start with a new core which will bring you much farther than this one could.
I've been telling you for years to get ride of Kessel and Phaneuf, won't change my mind today.

Kapanen, Harrington, Spaling, 1st rounder + unspecified draft pick coming Leafs way.

TSN panel basically saying it's a slam dunk for the Leafs.

Penguins need to win now, prospect cupboard is almost bare.
- The Shrike

I like it.

Tankalicious
- Zezel

of course they'd tank when the lottery rules are changed

Kapanen, Harrington, Spaling, 1st rounder + unspecified draft pick coming Leafs way.

TSN panel basically saying it's a slam dunk for the Leafs.

Penguins need to win now, prospect cupboard is almost bare.
- The Shrike

Seems like a fine deal

Lol
- daeth

go back and read...they didnt get value...but im glad he is gone

I bet one is Robidas.
- KesselRules

I doubt it, too much cap. It's probably two minor league contracts near league minimum to clear contract # space for Leafs.

Bad trade for the Leafs but certainly not crippling. The 1st is nice but most likely low in the 20 range. Kapanen seems very good but that Dman looks okay. Retaining 1 mil for 7 years sucks but big whoop it's not going to prevent them from doing anything.

What people need to realize is that Phil had a very restrictive NTC and the Leafs weren't prepared to play chicken for 2 months to see if Phil and his agent would expand it.

Id rather have Kessel than that package. I never felt he needed to go.
- systemtool

Agreed......

That's why you don't trade star players. You never get fair value.

Look at Seguin, Thornton, etc.
- daeth

True but the Leafs obviously want to move on. They must really feel like Kessel is not part of the solution of bringing a winner. Did they win the trade? Maybe not, but who cares? It's not about winning trades it's about making moves to get where you want to go. Wherever that is 4-5 yrs down the road, this gets you closer to that than retaining Phil does.

I can handle that if we haven't yet heard the full return the leafs got. If it ends up as

TO PIT
Kessel (-1.2mil)

TO TOR
Kapanen
Harrington
1st round pick 2016

that is an absolutely awful trade by the leafs. If that is all they could have got for Kessel they needed to keep him.
- mycokes

What did you think we were going to get? We got 2 top end prospects and a first rounder........ what exactly did you think a trade was going to consist of for a rebuilding team?

Kapanen, Harrington, Spaling, 1st rounder + unspecified draft pick coming Leafs way.

TSN panel basically saying it's a slam dunk for the Leafs.

Penguins need to win now, prospect cupboard is almost bare.
- The Shrike[/quote


Someone give me low down on Spaling.

Meanwhile like 8 guys have signed