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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 2 @ 12:56 PM ET
You should have a third line of Foreverberg-Yeti-Rantanenenenenenen


Just have them do the flying V and bull their way to the net

- dothedougie


They need another Berg...thats the dream now
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Jul 2 @ 12:58 PM ET
They need another Berg...thats the dream now
- DDM-Coga


Seidenberg!!!!!
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Jul 2 @ 3:53 PM ET
It's pretty clear what we are seeing here is that our young defenseman just aren't ready to step up.

As many people have said, this doesn't "fix" the problem but it definitely gives us a better defensive core than we had last year.

Over the next couple of years, we'll start to see the young guys challenging for TOI and it will be a perfect compliment to the younger offensive core.

We'll just have to see how it plays out this year. Roy did a really good job his first season and, on paper at least, this roster appears to be better and definitely deeper than that team.

If you consistently have guys like Cliche and Holden and Guenin getting lots of minutes, well... We all saw what happened last year. If they can stay relatively healthy, this team should be fun to watch and could pleasantly surprise us.

- jratliff


I think its just best not to rush them and make sure they are ready when they step in. With some of these guys being such vital pieces risking their long term development isnt worth the extra year we would bring them up. Also it allows us to not be in a position to over use them by the time they do come up.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Jul 2 @ 3:56 PM ET
Do you think Tanguay will be around for that long?
- manchester33


Tangs was up for the Avs MVP last year, he still has plenty of hockey left in him, especially with his style of play
westonie
Season Ticket Holder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: IL
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 2 @ 8:56 PM ET


Does anyone else think Nicolas Meloche looks like the love child of MacKinnon and Duchene?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 2 @ 9:25 PM ET


Does anyone else think Nicolas Meloche looks like the love child of MacKinnon and Duchene?

- westonie


The more I see the new shoulder patch, the more I like it. I miss the Yeti, but its pretty clean. I think it could jump start a bunch more simpler design elements years down the line
westonie
Season Ticket Holder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: IL
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:35 PM ET
The more I see the new shoulder patch, the more I like it. I miss the Yeti, but its pretty clean. I think it could jump start a bunch more simpler design elements years down the line
- DDM-Coga


I think they would look good paired with the primary logo on a jersey design that wasn't absolute $hit
rubberduckies
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington beach, CA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 3 @ 12:09 AM ET
I think Beauchamin put the Aves over the top...in salary cap
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 3 @ 12:22 AM ET
I think Beauchamin put the Aves over the top...in salary cap
- rubberduckies


check again slick, and if you are going to try and troll a team, at least spell their name right.

Bush League
Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

Jul 3 @ 1:07 AM ET
I think Beauchamin put the Aves over the top...in salary cap
- rubberduckies


This had potential but it just fell apart at the end. It's tough, being close to something special but not being able to close it out, isn't it?
Palfenier
Colorado Avalanche
Location: ON
Joined: 09.22.2013

Jul 3 @ 7:53 PM ET
Orielly signs for 7 years 7.5 mill per year. Just WOW. The Avs management made good on their word for not letting him walk for nothing. I couldn't be happier with the way this played out, unless of course we kept Ryan for around 6mill for 4-5 years. Buffalo got a stud for sure, not trying to take away from that, but how can you build a winning team when your highest payed player is in the 65 point range? Keep in mind he played with the likes of Duchene MacKinnon Landeskog when he put those numbers up.
Fols19
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 6 @ 10:20 AM ET
Grigorenko duchene Iginla
Landeskog Soderberg Mackinnon
Tanguay Hishon/mitchell Comeau
McLeod Mitchell/Winchester Everberg

Beauchemin Johnson
Zadorov Barrie
Stuart Holden
Redmond

- martok2309


This is how I see us starting out as well. Gives Soderberg a chance to replace ROR and maybe even prove that offensive numbers were boosted playing along a #1 and #2 draft pick, loaded with talent. I can see Grigorenko having a great camp wanting to prove himself and could get slotted with a chance to grow into Duchene's guy. If not you swap him and Tanguay.

I don't see Winchester playing.....for some reason I think he'll just be out again. Or maybe it's that I gave up on him? I also like having Everberg on the 4th line only because of his limited offensive numbers. Let him go create energy with Cody, tell them to limit the shift to 20 seconds and get the hell off the ice!
Fols19
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 6 @ 10:27 AM ET
Orielly signs for 7 years 7.5 mill per year. Just WOW. The Avs management made good on their word for not letting him walk for nothing. I couldn't be happier with the way this played out, unless of course we kept Ryan for around 6mill for 4-5 years. Buffalo got a stud for sure, not trying to take away from that, but how can you build a winning team when your highest payed player is in the 65 point range? Keep in mind he played with the likes of Duchene MacKinnon Landeskog when he put those numbers up.
- Palfenier


As much as I liked ROR, he wasn't going to re-sign here so to have Zadorov in the mix is huge. Grigs is just gravy if he turns things around here in Colorado.

I like what Buffalo is putting together over there, but both of these teams are probably going to see an upside out of this trade.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:35 AM ET
This is how I see us starting out as well. Gives Soderberg a chance to replace ROR and maybe even prove that offensive numbers were boosted playing along a #1 and #2 draft pick, loaded with talent. I can see Grigorenko having a great camp wanting to prove himself and could get slotted with a chance to grow into Duchene's guy. If not you swap him and Tanguay.

I don't see Winchester playing.....for some reason I think he'll just be out again. Or maybe it's that I gave up on him? I also like having Everberg on the 4th line only because of his limited offensive numbers. Let him go create energy with Cody, tell them to limit the shift to 20 seconds and get the hell off the ice!

- Fols19


But I do like those lines. Grigo on Dutchs wing could be really dynamic. He seemed to get the rough end of the stick and crappy linemates in Buff so putting him with Dutch and a hard working Iggy could really rub off on the kid.

I would like to see Tangs down on the 3rd line, to me that shows we have good depth. Him and Comeau can jump up into the Top 6 if injury's happen, but lets not start them up there.

A 4th line of McLoed Mitchell Berg actually seems like a NHL 4th line. I could be on board with that.

but the fact that Fehr and Ehrhoff are still out there makes me tempted, if you can sign one of those guys at a 1year 1-2m deal. I would take that in a heart beat. That would really put us over the top with proper depth

Not sure whats taking them so long to sign.
Fols19
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jul 6 @ 1:17 PM ET
But I do like those lines. Grigo on Dutchs wing could be really dynamic. He seemed to get the rough end of the stick and crappy linemates in Buff so putting him with Dutch and a hard working Iggy could really rub off on the kid.

I would like to see Tangs down on the 3rd line, to me that shows we have good depth. Him and Comeau can jump up into the Top 6 if injury's happen, but lets not start them up there.

A 4th line of McLoed Mitchell Berg actually seems like a NHL 4th line. I could be on board with that.

but the fact that Fehr and Ehrhoff are still out there makes me tempted, if you can sign one of those guys at a 1year 1-2m deal. I would take that in a heart beat. That would really put us over the top with proper depth

Not sure whats taking them so long to sign.

- DDM-Coga


You have to also keep in mind that Roy has his 'guys' that he has always shown to reward. So bumping everyone down the depth chart isn't necessarily what'll happen.

I can see Mitchell getting that third line center spot. They love that guy.

Meaning....does that knock Hishon out of the loop since he doesn't really fit 4th line duty? Do we get our beloved Cliche back in the line-up? If so, I can hold onto my Home, Away, Alternative and pre-order of the new Cliche jersey.

Yes, i'll have 4 Cliche jerseys and guess what....probably getting an outdoor stadium series jersey. Boom......CLICHE!

74 games played. 7 points.
westonie
Season Ticket Holder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: IL
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 6 @ 1:26 PM ET
You have to also keep in mind that Roy has his 'guys' that he has always shown to reward. So bumping everyone down the depth chart isn't necessarily what'll happen.

I can see Mitchell getting that third line center spot. They love that guy.

Meaning....does that knock Hishon out of the loop since he doesn't really fit 4th line duty? Do we get our beloved Cliche back in the line-up? If so, I can hold onto my Home, Away, Alternative and pre-order of the new Cliche jersey.

Yes, i'll have 4 Cliche jerseys and guess what....probably getting an outdoor stadium series jersey. Boom......CLICHE!

74 games played. 7 points.

- Fols19


I think the good ol' boys club is a little overplayed. Roy talks highly of individual players like Stuart, Cliche, Guenin, and Holden because it would be stupid to rag on them to the media. He has never been shy about saying they need to upgrade the defense or get bigger up front. I do wish he'd trust some of the younger players a little more.

Cliche will be bumped. He was a healthy scratch for one game last year and then injuries kept him in the rest of the year. Mitchell will get time but he's actually a solid player.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 1:41 PM ET
I think the good ol' boys club is a little overplayed. Roy talks highly of individual players like Stuart, Cliche, Guenin, and Holden because it would be stupid to rag on them to the media. He has never been shy about saying they need to upgrade the defense or get bigger up front. I do wish he'd trust some of the younger players a little more.

Cliche will be bumped. He was a healthy scratch for one game last year and then injuries kept him in the rest of the year. Mitchell will get time but he's actually a solid player.

- westonie


I agree with this, I think Roy is evolving as a coach so he wont be leaning on those garbage pail kids as much or if at all anymore. He fell in love with them bc of what they did in 2014, and they embarrassed him in 2015. I dont see him doing the same mistake in 2016.

Mitchell might stay at 3rd C but it all depends now with Grigo. Roy is going to play him in the Top 9 somewhere...and that is going to push Mitchell out if there is someone that emerges at camp.

Dutch, Mack, Landy, Soderberg, Iggy, Tangs, Comeau, Grigorrnko will be set. Then you have Everberg, Hishon at the door step. I think Mitchell will be pushed down bc of proper depth
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Jul 6 @ 1:50 PM ET
I agree with this, I think Roy is evolving as a coach so he wont be leaning on those garbage pail kids as much or if at all anymore. He fell in love with them bc of what they did in 2014, and they embarrassed him in 2015. I dont see him doing the same mistake in 2016.

Mitchell might stay at 3rd C but it all depends now with Grigo. Roy is going to play him in the Top 9 somewhere...and that is going to push Mitchell out if there is someone that emerges at camp.

Dutch, Mack, Landy, Soderberg, Iggy, Tangs, Comeau, Grigorrnko will be set. Then you have Everberg, Hishon at the door step. I think Mitchell will be pushed down bc of proper depth

- DDM-Coga


You guys signed a D man!!!

Projecting career years in the AHL from Guenin and Cliche this year!
aschuter82
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Cypress Creek
Joined: 06.18.2010

Jul 6 @ 1:52 PM ET
I agree with this, I think Roy is evolving as a coach so he wont be leaning on those garbage pail kids as much or if at all anymore. He fell in love with them bc of what they did in 2014, and they embarrassed him in 2015. I dont see him doing the same mistake in 2016.

Mitchell might stay at 3rd C but it all depends now with Grigo. Roy is going to play him in the Top 9 somewhere...and that is going to push Mitchell out if there is someone that emerges at camp.

Dutch, Mack, Landy, Soderberg, Iggy, Tangs, Comeau, Grigorrnko will be set. Then you have Everberg, Hishon at the door step. I think Mitchell will be pushed down bc of proper depth

- DDM-Coga

Is it pretty set in stone that they are going to give Grigorenko top 6 ice-time right away? I'm curious to see what they do with him...he's an interesting prospect I'll give him that, but he's done nothing to suggest he's capable of doing anything at the NHL level. That's not a reason not to try...but I'm pretty skeptical on him at this pont.

MacKinnon becoming a top 6 center is critical for the ROR trade to pay off. Mack has proven he can be an elite winger in this league...but if he can't transition to becoming a first line center, that spells trouble. I like Duchene alot, but I don't think he's the possession driver, nor is Soderberg that guys like ROR and Stastny were.

DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 2:01 PM ET
Is it pretty set in stone that they are going to give Grigorenko top 6 ice-time right away? I'm curious to see what they do with him...he's an interesting prospect I'll give him that, but he's done nothing to suggest he's capable of doing anything at the NHL level. That's not a reason not to try...but I'm pretty skeptical on him at this pont.

MacKinnon becoming a top 6 center is critical for the ROR trade to pay off. Mack has proven he can be an elite winger in this league...but if he can't transition to becoming a first line center, that spells trouble. I like Duchene alot, but I don't think he's the possession driver, nor is Soderberg that guys like ROR and Stastny were.

- aschuter82


I think Top 9 for Grigo at least, I see him either 3rd C or LW for Dutch. Hes the ultimate wild card but I feel like they need to tread lightly with him. Cant mess up his development any further so giving him the best scenario to succeed is key. I jsut get the feeling that having him start the year in the AHL, etc, wont motivate the guy to progress. So letting him play with Dutch might be just the motivation he needs if he starts to put up points

I can agree with Mack, so having him transition to C sooner than later has to happen. At least with Soderberg he can play LW too, so they can get some miles out of him in that role if MacK goes C.
westonie
Season Ticket Holder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: IL
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 6 @ 2:26 PM ET
I think Top 9 for Grigo at least, I see him either 3rd C or LW for Dutch. Hes the ultimate wild card but I feel like they need to tread lightly with him. Cant mess up his development any further so giving him the best scenario to succeed is key. I jsut get the feeling that having him start the year in the AHL, etc, wont motivate the guy to progress. So letting him play with Dutch might be just the motivation he needs if he starts to put up points

I can agree with Mack, so having him transition to C sooner than later has to happen. At least with Soderberg he can play LW too, so they can get some miles out of him in that role if MacK goes C.

- DDM-Coga


I would start him on the 3rd line to shelter him some and put him on the pp to get some confidence back. If he produces there, then move him up. If he starts on the top line, there is a lot more expectation and if he doesn't produce, the fair-weather fans will be all over him and it could easily spiral out of control.
Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

Jul 6 @ 3:00 PM ET
I would start him on the 3rd line to shelter him some and put him on the pp to get some confidence back. If he produces there, then move him up. If he starts on the top line, there is a lot more expectation and if he doesn't produce, the fair-weather fans will be all over him and it could easily spiral out of control.
- westonie


I'd give him all the offensive zone draws and half at neutral ice, then let Soderberg do defensive zone draws and let Mackinnon progress from there
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 3:06 PM ET
I would start him on the 3rd line to shelter him some and put him on the pp to get some confidence back. If he produces there, then move him up. If he starts on the top line, there is a lot more expectation and if he doesn't produce, the fair-weather fans will be all over him and it could easily spiral out of control.
- westonie


If thats the case, I would want Tangs with him on 3C duties. To have Tangs feeding Grigo the puck, that would make things a lot easier on the kid. I know that would leave a hole in the Top 6 moving Tangs down but I dont want to see him playing with Mitchell getting frustrated from the lack of finish.
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