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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 12:46 PM ET
No not probably, he was taken 3rd overall, The lightening definitely expect more than 40 point seasons from Drouin. Hell, with a limited role last year in his rookie campaign he was able to get 32 points.
- Mentalorgasm5


Adding to this, he was one of the highest points per 60 minutes guys in the entire league.

Edit: False, I think.

Jonathan Drouin's 5v5 points per 60 in 70 regular season games was 1.95. That is a shade below a 1st line rate of producing points.
— Ryan Wilson (@GunnerStaal) June 4, 2015

But that part is true.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 2 @ 12:46 PM ET
No not probably, he was taken 3rd overall, The lightening definitely expect more than 40 point seasons from Drouin. Hell, with a limited role last year in his rookie campaign he was able to get 32 points.
- Mentalorgasm5

Most were assists. He had someone to finish. Ennis hasn't . We can check those stats after this season.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 2 @ 12:46 PM ET
Ennis is already what people hope Drouin can be.....
- ImThatGuy


I really like Ennis, but if that's the ceiling for Drouin he wouldn't have been taken 3rd overall.

If Drouin only turns into Ennis it will be a disappointment.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:48 PM ET
I really like Ennis, but if that's the ceiling for Drouin he wouldn't have been taken 3rd overall.

If Drouin only turns into Ennis it will be a disappointment.

- Stripes77


COPY AND Paste:

Drouin will hopefully become a damn good player.

I think I am more plugging Ennis and how underrated he is, then discussing Drouin.

Probably to an extreme event though, with that said,

Ennis gets to play with ROR, Eichel, Girgensons, Reinhart as his centers this year.

To say Ennis puts up 50-60+ points, is not out of the question, IMO. A
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 12:53 PM ET
Ennis-ROR-Kane
or
Ennis-Eichel-Moulson
or
Ennis-Reinhart-XXX
or
Ennis-Girgensons-XXX


He is going to have all the opportunity to play with good players this year.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 2 @ 12:56 PM ET
Early predictions for Eastern conference

Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay
NY Rangers
Columbus
Montreal
Washington
Detroit
Ottawa
Buffalo
NY Islanders
Philadelphia
Boston
Florida
Toronto
New Jersey
Carolina

- bluengold12


I think this is a bit ambitious

Boston and Philly still have a decent core up front and Isles are a playoff team. Florida are trending upwards not down.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jul 2 @ 12:59 PM ET
I think this is a bit ambitious

Boston and Philly still have a decent core up front and Isles are a playoff team. Florida are trending upwards not down.

- Sabresfan-365


All of those things
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 2 @ 12:59 PM ET
Ennis-ROR-Kane
or
Ennis-Eichel-Moulson
or
Ennis-Reinhart-XXX
or
Ennis-Girgensons-XXX


He is going to have all the opportunity to play with good players this year.

- ImThatGuy

Kane, Eichel, Ennis
Moulson, Reinhart, ROR
McGinn, Girgens, Gionta
Foligno, Legwand, Larsson

bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 2 @ 1:00 PM ET
I think this is a bit ambitious

Boston and Philly still have a decent core up front and Isles are a playoff team. Florida are trending upwards not down.

- Sabresfan-365


Who would have put Colorado in the playoffs two years ago? Or Calgary last year? Not many... Right now I have us 9th and with the offensive talent on our roster I think that's a pretty fair assessment give or take a few positions. Philly and Boston haven't done anything to scare me. Isles were a playoff team last year... Let's see if they can do the same this year. Not a proven team at all. Florida we have a much better roster than them IMO
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 2 @ 1:00 PM ET
All of those things
- mattmoulson


Good, glad you think that. I believe we finish in the 8-11 range and I'm very confident in that.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 2 @ 1:01 PM ET
Who would have put Colorado in the playoffs two years ago? Or Calgary last year? Not many... Right now I have us 9th and with the offensive talent on our roster I think that's a pretty fair assessment give or take a few positions. Philly and Boston haven't done anything to scare me. Isles were a playoff team last year... Let's see if they can do the same this year. Not a proven team at all. Florida we have a much better roster than them IMO
- bluengold12


We will go as far as Robin will take us
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 1:01 PM ET
Ennis-ROR-Kane
or
Ennis-Eichel-Moulson
or
Ennis-Reinhart-XXX
or
Ennis-Girgensons-XXX


He is going to have all the opportunity to play with good players this year.

- ImThatGuy


Kane-ROR-Ennis
Moulson-Eichel-Girgensons
Foligno/McGinnLarsson-Reinhart-Gionta
Deslauriers-Legwand-Foligno/McGinn/Larsson
McCormick

These lines probably start the year
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 2 @ 1:01 PM ET
Most were assists. He had someone to finish. Ennis hasn't . We can check those stats after this season.
- cabin

It was said people hope drouin becomes as good as Ennis, was just pointing out thats nowhere near the truth. Much higher expectations for Drouin.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
Good, glad you think that. I believe we finish in the 8-11 range and I'm very confident in that.
- bluengold12

add a top 4 d man
competitive back up goalie
and develop team chemistry


then this team is a top 8 team in the east
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
We have too many forwards.

No wonder Bylsma has 20 combos in his head.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
Who would have put Colorado in the playoffs two years ago? Or Calgary last year? Not many... Right now I have us 9th and with the offensive talent on our roster I think that's a pretty fair assessment give or take a few positions. Philly and Boston haven't done anything to scare me. Isles were a playoff team last year... Let's see if they can do the same this year. Not a proven team at all. Florida we have a much better roster than them IMO
- bluengold12

The goalie stats will have a great effect on were we land in those standings. Should be a lot better than some think.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
We will go as far as Robin will take us
- hubie

Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 2 @ 1:04 PM ET
We have too many forwards.
- TheSabresTaco





Yes we do. Delaurias needs to stay IMO.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 2 @ 1:05 PM ET
add a top 4 d man
competitive back up goalie
and develop team chemistry


then this team is a top 8 team in the east

- homiedclown


I think the top 4 d man will come in the next week. I'm pretty confident in that.
Back up goalie... I agree I'm not crazy about Johnson but maybe if one of the guys in Rochester is good he can come up mid season when Ulmark is healthy and can play in Rochester.
Developing team chemistry I think will happen fast. They've stripped the team of any negative energy... Brought in guys who want to win and are use to winning will be key. You can tell this team is hungry and I believe they get it going sooner than later.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 1:05 PM ET
Kane, Eichel, Ennis
Moulson, Reinhart, ROR
McGinn, Girgens, Gionta
Foligno, Legwand, Larsson

- homiedclown


Bylsma said ROR is the top line C.

Even with that. You can move Ennis wherever you want and he gets to play with a real center next year.

Its amazing that 4 of the 5 Centers coming in (ROR, Eichel, Reinhart, Legwand) were not here last year.

cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 2 @ 1:05 PM ET
It was said people who drouin becomes as good as Ennis, was just pointing out thats nowhere near the truth. Much higher expectations for Drouin.
- Mentalorgasm5

Yes Ennis was never near Drouins expectation. He is only 20 so it will be a while till he passes Ennis..
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 2 @ 1:05 PM ET

- homiedclown

BackSlider
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man, CO
Joined: 07.05.2012

Jul 2 @ 1:05 PM ET
add a top 4 d man
competitive back up goalie
and develop team chemistry


then this team is a top 8 team in the east

- homiedclown


ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 2 @ 1:09 PM ET
add a top 4 d man
competitive back up goalie
and develop team chemistry


then this team is a top 8 team in the east

- homiedclown


I think Foligno and Larsson may be on their way out.

What about trading for the rights to MDZ...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 2 @ 1:10 PM ET
I think Foligno and Larsson may be on their way out.

What about trading for the rights to MDZ...

- ImThatGuy

I'd part one of them for his rights
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