Agreed, he definitely won't get first PP time with Streit in the lineup. I'm not so sure about the rest. MDZ might get it done, but so far he has't been a great PP quarterback. Granted, he hasn't had much of an opportunity, so there is that to consider. As for the other prospects, they may prove better, they may not, but none of them are 6'7" with the potential to unleash a bomb of a shot that defending players are going to fear getting in front of. Ghost is the only one I put significantly ahead of the others in development, but he's also the smallest and had a bit of a setback last season...I really hope his game translates well to the NHL.

It's going to be interesting to see who is the first to get into the lineup as a regular, who develops the most quickly, and whether they are one and the same. I'm very much looking forward to watching these kids play.
- wolfhounds

I think sometimes we forget making the nhl doesn't mean star in the nhl immediately. Even guys like Seth Jones aaran ekblad weren't top pairing power play pk. So if it takes let's say for the sake of argument 2 years for the big 4 to make it. Than another 2 to be able to play in all situations. Streit will be gone so likely will be mdz. Provorov sanheim top pp unit and morin gost 2nd pp unit isn't a bad thing. Morin plays top pp in juniors. And having 4 offensive defenseman isn't bad either even if morin is the least offensive he still has 20-25 point potential imo

Happy holiday coming up to all.
Hoping for freedom from these bad contracts (VLC/RJU) to celebrate the 4th

Happy holiday coming up to all.
Hoping for freedom from these bad contracts (VLC/RJU) to celebrate the 4th
- Steelmanpa

Thanks and happy holiday to you too!

Yeah, unloading Vinny and any other bad contracts would be sweet.

On another topic, I think rumors regarding the Flyers and Sharp are b.s. I don't see Hextall looking to add any high priced veterans until they are closer to contending.
The only exception would be in a trade where the other team is taking an even worse contract (Vinny, Umberger, AMac etc.) back.

He is nothing of a #1 d men. He's a #3 on a Stanley Cup team a #2 on a bubble team and a #1 on a bad team. He's what morin predicts to be a solid shut down 2nd pairing guy. He is also going to be 31 almost 32. He plays physical very physical which should hurt his value past age 35. I say he's lucky to get 5 years 32 million tops
- Tfaehner

Seabrooke is absolutely a #1 in my opinion. He can play in all situations, and is good offensively and defensively. If he makes it to free agency, he'll be highly coveted. He's played on a 3 time Stanley cup winning team as a top pairing defenseman.

Labarbera is an improvement over Zepp, although not by a whole lot. He's got miles more pro experience. If he's the kind of guy who will help to groom Stolarz, then it's a good signing. He hasn't played more than 40 games since '08-'09, so maybe they see a 1A/1B situation in Lehigh Valley.

'Seems like they're easing Stolarz in to the starter role to see if he can handle it. If so, next year he'll probably be the full time starter

Thanks and happy holiday to you too!

Yeah, unloading Vinny and any other bad contracts would be sweet.

On another topic, I think rumors regarding the Flyers and Sharp are b.s. I don't see Hextall looking to add any high priced veterans until they are closer to contending.
The only exception would be in a trade where the other team is taking an even worse contract (Vinny, Umberger, AMac etc.) back.
- BiggE

your a sharp thinker E

your a sharp thinker E
- vejim

I've been called worse.

Thanks and happy holiday to you too!

Yeah, unloading Vinny and any other bad contracts would be sweet.

On another topic, I think rumors regarding the Flyers and Sharp are b.s. I don't see Hextall looking to add any high priced veterans until they are closer to contending.
The only exception would be in a trade where the other team is taking an even worse contract (Vinny, Umberger, AMac etc.) back.
- BiggE

I think the rumors for Sharp are also BS. I was hoping for Hextall to improve the secondary scoring as it is needed, and I was hoping that would come through a trade. There could be one still out there. If not, we will have to hope Read, Corpseburger, and Gagne can all gain back their scoring touch.

I really don't see Hextall doing too much else this offseason.

I think he will move one more veteran Dman once free agency winds down. There will be a team or 2 out there that didn't get the Dman they wanted and will be looking to make a deal.

I also think the VLC situation will be resolved. He will either be traded, with the Flyers retaining a chunk of the salary/cap hit. Or after Hextall explains to Vinny and his agent that there is simply no one willing to make a deal, he will agree to terminate the deal. I really don't see any way that he is still here when camp opens, he doesn't fit with what the Flyers are trying to do and I think he'd rather walk away from some money for a chance to actually play in games rather than just practice and sit in the press box.

I think the rumors for Sharp are also BS. I was hoping for Hextall to improve the secondary scoring as it is needed, and I was hoping that would come through a trade. There could be one still out there. If not, we will have to hope Read, Corpseburger, and Gagne can all gain back their scoring touch.
- 3flyerkids

Gagner is still an effective offensive player. He put up decent numbers on a very offensively challenged team last year. Read I think can and will bounce back, I don't think he is over the hill at 29.

Umberger might bounce back some, but he's had a lot of injuries over the last few years and I'd be surprised if he is able to stay healthy and be an effective player for an entire season. I'm guessing he's a spare forward by the end of the year and is bought out next June.

I really don't see Hextall doing too much else this offseason.

I think he will move one more veteran Dman once free agency winds down. There will be a team or 2 out there that didn't get the Dman they wanted and will be looking to make a deal.

I also think the VLC situation will be resolved. He will either be traded, with the Flyers retaining a chunk of the salary/cap hit. Or after Hextall explains to Vinny and his agent that there is simply no one willing to make a deal, he will agree to terminate the deal. I really don't see any way that he is still here when camp opens, he doesn't fit with what the Flyers are trying to do and I think he'd rather walk away from some money for a chance to actually play in games rather than just practice and sit in the press box.
- BiggE

I think Hextall is basically going to let Vinny rot if he doesn't fit into Hakstol's plans, they can buy him out next summer and lose some of the sting of a buy out.

I think he's going to make some minor moves, but unless he has a chance to lose a bad contract, he's not doing anything big. The only way that a Sharp type move happens is if the other team takes Vinny or an other bad deal in return.

Gagner is still an effective offensive player. He put up decent numbers on a very offensively challenged team last year. Read I think can and will bounce back, I don't think he is over the hill at 29.

Umberger might bounce back some, but he's had a lot of injuries over the last few years and I'd be surprised if he is able to stay healthy and be an effective player for an entire season. I'm guessing he's a spare forward by the end of the year and is bought out next June.
- BiggE

Keep in mind, read is one day older today

I really don't see Hextall doing too much else this offseason.

I think he will move one more veteran Dman once free agency winds down. There will be a team or 2 out there that didn't get the Dman they wanted and will be looking to make a deal.

I also think the VLC situation will be resolved. He will either be traded, with the Flyers retaining a chunk of the salary/cap hit. Or after Hextall explains to Vinny and his agent that there is simply no one willing to make a deal, he will agree to terminate the deal. I really don't see any way that he is still here when camp opens, he doesn't fit with what the Flyers are trying to do and I think he'd rather walk away from some money for a chance to actually play in games rather than just practice and sit in the press box.
- BiggE

Personally, I think the odds of a trade aren't good, not impossible, but even with that said, it's the best chance for the Flyers to move Lecavalier. The situation with Lecavalier on the Flyers isn't going to change much between now and the season. In my opinion, termination is a pipe dream and it's doubtful that's going to happen. If Lecavalier was open to that, why wouldn't he do it right now, when teams are looking for players? He knows that if he does it later in the Summer, there are very few opening on teams, and it's a high probablility all he would get is a training camp tryout offer.

Personally, I think the odds of a trade aren't good, not impossible, but even with that said, it's the best chance for the Flyers to move Lecavalier. The situation with Lecavalier on the Flyers isn't going to change much between now and the season. In my opinion, termination is a pipe dream and it's doubtful that's going to happen. If Lecavalier was open to that, why wouldn't he do it right now, when teams are looking for players? He knows that if he does it later in the Summer, there are very few opening on teams, and it's a high probablility all he would get is a training camp tryout offer.
- MJL

As far as why he has t terminated yet, he wouldn't have until he got his bonus. But I agree, I don't think he will terminate. Only way I see that happening is if there is a team he knows would sign him, but wouldn't trade for him. So far I'm happy with what Hextall has done, so keeping vinny one more year, even on the bench every game doesn't seem as bad to me. Hextall can't solve every issue in one offseason.

As far as why he has t terminated yet, he wouldn't have until he got his bonus. But I agree, I don't think he will terminate. Only way I see that happening is if there is a team he knows would sign him, but wouldn't trade for him. So far I'm happy with what Hextall has done, so keeping vinny one more year, even on the bench every game doesn't seem as bad to me. Hextall can't solve every issue in one offseason.
- funmaster18

As far as I know, he got his bonus two days ago.

As far as why he has t terminated yet, he wouldn't have until he got his bonus. But I agree, I don't think he will terminate. Only way I see that happening is if there is a team he knows would sign him, but wouldn't trade for him. So far I'm happy with what Hextall has done, so keeping vinny one more year, even on the bench every game doesn't seem as bad to me. Hextall can't solve every issue in one offseason.
- funmaster18

He got the bonus, he's not walking away from the rest of the $8.5mm due to him. His agent has knocked on doors, I'm sure, because the Flyers gave them permission to find a trade. I'd wager that in the midst of that they asked around about a contract if Vinny terminated and didn't find one.

As far as I know, he got his bonus two days ago.
- MJL

Right, which has given him 2 days to make his decision. Though you would think he would have had his mind made up already. Perhaps He has given Hextall a few days to try and work out a trade first

Right, which has given him 2 days to make his decision. Though you would think he would have had his mind made up already. Perhaps He has given Hextall a few days to try and work out a trade first
- funmaster18

I don't think he waited until July 1 to start thinking about this. He and his agent know the landscape. Hextall has ben trying to trade him for a while. I think termination is wishful thinking at this point. I think the odds heavily favor Lecavalier is still with the Flyers come October.

Personally, I think the odds of a trade aren't good, not impossible, but even with that said, it's the best chance for the Flyers to move Lecavalier. The situation with Lecavalier on the Flyers isn't going to change much between now and the season. In my opinion, termination is a pipe dream and it's doubtful that's going to happen. If Lecavalier was open to that, why wouldn't he do it right now, when teams are looking for players? He knows that if he does it later in the Summer, there are very few opening on teams, and it's a high probablility all he would get is a training camp tryout offer.
- MJL

Is there a specific window during which a mutual termination can occur, or is it anytime?

Is there a specific window during which a mutual termination can occur, or is it anytime?
- BulliesPhan87

Anytime.

Anytime.
- Jsaquella

Even during the season? If so, let him rot, maybe seeing the season going without him eventually moves him to want out.

I'm glad Hextall didn't give and buy him out.

Even during the season? If so, let him rot, maybe seeing the season going without him eventually moves him to want out.

I'm glad Hextall didn't give and buy him out.
- BulliesPhan87

Any time at all, so long as the player agrees.

I personally felt that Vinny agreeing to a termination hinged on him having a contract with another team beforehand. The goal for Vinny is to keep playing, but if nobody is willing to sign him, a termination does nothing for him.