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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 3 @ 6:41 PM ET
Roster limits and the salary cap. 13 forwards on one way deals, including Vinny(NMC means no AHL) and Umberger who likely can't be traded, anyhow. Then at least 7 D on one way contracts and two goalies. There's only one spot at most for a kid to step in without another trade
- Jsaquella

But didn't you hear? Everything you posted is meaningless. Players can just be traded or demoted to make room. Have you had your head in the ground for the last yr?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 6:45 PM ET
But didn't you hear? Everything you posted is meaningless. Players can just be traded or demoted to make room. Have you had your head in the ground for the last yr?
- mayorofangrytown


The Flyers wouldn't have much an issue trading Luke Schenn, Nick Schultz, or Radko Gudas during training camp, if they felt they need to make some roster spots for any of the young defenseman to make the team. In fact, Gudas deal is cheap enough that they could waive him, and if he clears, demote him to the AHL, to create a roster spot, without having to carry much on the cap for him.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 3 @ 6:46 PM ET
The Flyers wouldn't have much an issue trading Luke Schenn, Nick Schultz, or Radko Gudas during training camp, if they felt they need to make some roster spots for any of the young defenseman to make the team. In fact, Gudas deal is cheap enough that they could waive him, and if he clears, demote him to the AHL, to create a roster spot, without having to carry much on the cap for him.
- MJL

See
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 3 @ 6:50 PM ET
If Letang stays healthy, at one point, Malkin at the other.

Syd on 1/2 wall, cheeseburger Phil in the slot, & Hornqvist screening ala Tomas Holmstrom.

Pretty for you guys, scary for everyone else

- puckhead17


letang is actually pretty bad at the point of a powerplay. he has tons of flash, but he doesnt think the game well from a set play standpoint.

im really hoping pouliot can be that guy.

hornqvist being a holmstrom esque net front guy would be awesome. i might swap personnel around a bit, but thats the set up id go with too
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 7:07 PM ET
What position would a fan want their team in, out of the following two scenarios? The team has to trade decent defenseman on low term, and/or low money deals to make roster room for young prospect defenseman? Or the team that has to scramble out of training camp to add defenseman to their roster, because the young defenseman they were counting on, showed that they aren't ready, and need more seasoning in the minors?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 3 @ 7:30 PM ET
What position would a fan want their team in, out of the following two scenarios? The team has to trade decent defenseman on low term, and/or low money deals to make roster room for young prospect defenseman? Or the team that has to scramble out of training camp to add defenseman to their roster, because the young defenseman they were counting on, showed that they aren't ready, and need more seasoning in the minors?
- MJL


I'd prefer a team that hopes thier young players can crack the roster, but has 1-2 serviceable 7/8 man (Manning, for instance) who could play low yet meaningful minutes in the top 6 should the need arise while the young guys work on their game.

But I guess that doesn't really answer your question. So neither.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 3 @ 7:34 PM ET
letang is actually pretty bad at the point of a powerplay. he has tons of flash, but he doesnt think the game well from a set play standpoint.

im really hoping pouliot can be that guy.

hornqvist being a holmstrom esque net front guy would be awesome. i might swap personnel around a bit, but thats the set up id go with too

- stayinthefnnet

He was the one I was hoping to see go in the Kessel deal. C'mon Shanahan
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:09 PM ET
what happens now?
- mydoglicks


They're still conversing, and can come to terms even before the process.
Amazing no one wants him, I thought he was our best defenseman in the 2nd half of the season.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 8:21 PM ET
Flyers sign 2015 first round draft pick Ivan Provorov to an entry-level contract

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=773934
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:29 PM ET
Flyers sign 2015 first round draft pick Ivan Provorov to an entry-level contract

http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=773934

- ob18

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 3 @ 8:43 PM ET
Amazing no one wants him
- puckhead17


I'm sure there are teams that are interested, but not at the compensation cost in the $3-5M range.


Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 3 @ 8:51 PM ET
Man our cap sheet blows

Seriously theres a lot of clean ones around the league right now. Maybe a team retaining 1 mil here or there. My God we have serious value issues on these deals
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:53 PM ET
I'm sure there are teams that are interested, but not at the compensation cost in the $3-5M range.
- Tomahawk


I don't know.
He played PP, & PK, sometimes lead us in minutes, played more physical when he had to, & jumped into the offensive zone, creating an offensive element that we lacked in our attack.
What's a 24 year old, former first rounder with these qualities worth?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:55 PM ET
Man our cap sheet blows

Seriously theres a lot of clean ones around the league right now. Maybe a team retaining 1 mil here or there. My God we have serious value issues on these deals

- Just5

4 D men on ELCs coming over the next two years should take care of that.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:56 PM ET
Ehrhoff
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 3 @ 8:56 PM ET
Scott Burnside, presumably of ESPN, rated us 27th in the league heading into next year.

www.flyersnation.net/?p=520

- aflyerpower8


Sounds about right. I'd say 20-26.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jul 3 @ 8:57 PM ET
4 D men on ELCs coming over the next two years should take care of that.
- hereticpride


Or 2-4 years.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 3 @ 9:00 PM ET
I don't know.
He played PP, & PK, sometimes lead us in minutes, played more physical when he had to, & jumped into the offensive zone, creating an offensive element that we lacked in our attack.
What's a 24 year old, former first rounder with these qualities worth?

- puckhead17


Its a dirty job but someone had to do it for the flyers last year.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:02 PM ET
Happy 4th ladies and gentlemen.

Had to work today and will be working Sunday. Of course it's raining tomorrow.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:04 PM ET
Assuming MDZ gets done I would love Streit moved if possible before the season starts - perhaps for just picks or picks + utility forwards.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 3 @ 9:11 PM ET
Assuming MDZ gets done I would love Streit moved if possible before the season starts - perhaps for just picks or picks + utility forwards.
- Pixote Andolini


Hextall wants to make the playoffs.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:18 PM ET
I'd prefer a team that hopes thier young players can crack the roster, but has 1-2 serviceable 7/8 man (Manning, for instance) who could play low yet meaningful minutes in the top 6 should the need arise while the young guys work on their game.

But I guess that doesn't really answer your question. So neither.

- jmatchett383


The Flyers have that, they have Manning, if he's needed. Along with other serviceable defenseman.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:21 PM ET
Man our cap sheet blows

Seriously theres a lot of clean ones around the league right now. Maybe a team retaining 1 mil here or there. My God we have serious value issues on these deals

- Just5


Teams who have cap space and aren't going to use it, no thanks. Don't want the Flyers to be one of those teams. What does that do for you? Flyers have to figure out the Lecavalier issue. Hopefully Umberger gets healthy and rebounds. Really the only cap issues the Flyers have, and they'll eventually get taken care of. Not really a big deal.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 3 @ 9:22 PM ET
I don't know.
He played PP, & PK, sometimes lead us in minutes, played more physical when he had to, & jumped into the offensive zone, creating an offensive element that we lacked in our attack.
What's a 24 year old, former first rounder with these qualities worth?

- puckhead17



The reality with Del Zotto is that other than his ability to jump in on the rush, he's considered an average to below average defenseman around the league.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 3 @ 9:50 PM ET
Review of any hockey/flyer related events would be appreciated
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