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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 6 @ 9:22 AM ET
I've got a warm fuzzy feeling about umberger this year
- Just5


They need him to suck less this year.

/analysis
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:27 AM ET
I think we're all getting a little ahead of ourselves with talk of trading MDZ.

What's going on here is all part of negotiations. I'd be surprised if something didn't get worked out.

- johndewar


Yeah, 'cause that never happens in here.
Sms401
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kenmore , NY
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 6 @ 9:27 AM ET
Who makes playoffs first? Buffalo or philly?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 6 @ 9:30 AM ET
I think we're all getting a little ahead of ourselves with talk of trading MDZ.

What's going on here is all part of negotiations. I'd be surprised if something didn't get worked out.

- johndewar




Trades also happen. If something doesn't get worked out would you rather them go to arbitration and then have Del Zotto get awarded something the Flyers don't want to pay? If they walk away from him it would be for nothing then.

Do you think Hextall is looking ahead incase they can't come to agreement even though he hopes to get something worked out?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 6 @ 9:31 AM ET
Who makes playoffs first? Buffalo or philly?
- Sms401


Buffalo definitely got better up front, but I still think they need help on defense and it's a question whether or not Lehner can step up in net.

I don't think they'll be at the very bottom, but I don't think they'll make the playoffs.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 6 @ 9:31 AM ET
Who makes playoffs first? Buffalo or philly?
- Sms401


Probably Philly.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 6 @ 9:32 AM ET
I think we're all getting a little ahead of ourselves with talk of trading MDZ.

What's going on here is all part of negotiations. I'd be surprised if something didn't get worked out.

- johndewar

He will be extended... i dont doubt that at all...
Sms401
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kenmore , NY
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 6 @ 9:33 AM ET
Buffalo definitely got better up front, but I still think they need help on defense and it's a question whether or not Lehner can step up in net.

I don't think they'll be at the very bottom, but I don't think they'll make the playoffs.

- Streit2ThePoint

Have a steak dinner bet with my brother. I do like the moves they made tho. Thinking buf might get in this year or next. Not sure bout Philly.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 6 @ 9:33 AM ET
Buffalo definitely got better up front, but I still think they need help on defense and it's a question whether or not Lehner can step up in net.

I don't think they'll be at the very bottom, but I don't think they'll make the playoffs.

- Streit2ThePoint


They're better, but let's not start putting Buffalo in the playoffs just yet.

Last I checked, Montreal, Tampa, and Detroit all had 100 point years last year.

And even Ottawa came on strong in that division (although, I don't believe for a second that Andrew Hammond is for real).
Sms401
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kenmore , NY
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 6 @ 9:36 AM ET
They're better, but let's not start putting Buffalo in the playoffs just yet.

Last I checked, Montreal, Tampa, and Detroit all had 100 point years last year.

And even Ottawa came on strong in that division (although, I don't believe for a second that Andrew Hammond is for real).

- johndewar

I think Montreal and Detroit take a step back. No way price has another season like last year and agree about hamburgler. Gonna be some turnover this year in the east me thinks
Sms401
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kenmore , NY
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 6 @ 9:41 AM ET
Went to nassua to see last reg season home game there before closing last year.... This year is the joe. Schedule comes out and wings playing philly last home game...
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jul 6 @ 9:44 AM ET
if a RFA files for arbitration, can another team still sign him to an offer sheet? Are there any restrictions in trading a player after arbitration?
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 6 @ 9:46 AM ET
Here's my east predictions:

1. Rangers
2. Capitals
3. Lightning
4. Canadiens
5. Penguins
6. Red Wings
7. Blue Jackets
8. Islanders
9. Flyers
10. Senators
11. Panthers
12. Sabres
13. Devils
14. Bruins
15. Leafs
16. Hurricanes


Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 6 @ 9:49 AM ET
if a RFA files for arbitration, can another team still sign him to an offer sheet? Are there any restrictions in trading a player after arbitration?
- flyerscup2011


I think other teams have to wait until the original team decides to accept the arbitration ruling or decline.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jul 6 @ 9:52 AM ET
I think other teams have to wait until the original team decides to accept the arbitration ruling or decline.
- Streit2ThePoint


so basically, we sign MDZ ahead of arb, accept arb's ruling or he becomes a UFA?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 9:57 AM ET
Laughton suffered a concussion that affected his play.
- MJL

I didn't think Scott Laughton played that great before the concussion.
Sms401
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kenmore , NY
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jul 6 @ 9:58 AM ET
Here's my east predictions:

1. Rangers
2. Capitals
3. Lightning
4. Canadiens
5. Penguins
6. Red Wings
7. Blue Jackets
8. Islanders
9. Flyers
10. Senators
11. Panthers
12. Sabres
13. Devils
14. Bruins
15. Leafs
16. Hurricanes

- Streit2ThePoint

I'd drop Detroit out and put Florida in
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 6 @ 9:59 AM ET
I didn't think Scott Laughton played that great before the concussion.
- SuperSchennBros

From an offensive stand point, he wasnt cashing in. His play though was very good. He was noticeable for the right reasons. The concussion definitely affected his play pretty significantly.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:03 AM ET
His play though was very good. He was noticeable for the right reasons.
- jak521


^
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 10:04 AM ET
From an offensive stand point, he wasnt cashing in. His play though was very good. He was noticeable for the right reasons. The concussion definitely affected his play pretty significantly.
- jak521

He was noticeable for not cashing in.

Laughton was playing on a scoring line with Simmonds when he entered the league and looked out of place within the role.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:04 AM ET
From an offensive stand point, he wasnt cashing in. His play though was very good. He was noticeable for the right reasons. The concussion definitely affected his play pretty significantly.
- jak521


I'd really be fine if he started in the AHL this year.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jul 6 @ 10:05 AM ET
(frank)ing christ, can we give the kid some time to play before we start making judgements and sarcastic, holier than thou comments on his future......let me ask you a question, since hes the guy you randomly picked as the "one who wont make it from the group", how many times have you actually seen him play?
- KINGKENZO


The best part of it is this is all from the guy who chose Rinaldo as a tag. If that's his judgement on hockey talent i will wait for the chance to watch him play. From what i heard he has bulked up a little bit in the upper body area while rehabbing. Will he be a can't miss stud? I have no idea but can't say he's a bust either.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:07 AM ET
He was noticeable for not cashing in.

Laughton was playing on a scoring line with Simmonds when he entered the league and looked out of place within the role.

- SuperSchennBros


He had more defensive zone starts than offensive zone starts, so if he was on a scoring line, it wasn't being deployed all that well.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 10:08 AM ET
I'd really be fine if he started in the AHL this year.
- johndewar

As would I.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 6 @ 10:08 AM ET
how much trade value does del zotto really have? if you have to overpay on a 1 year deal it is worth the risk. then maybe you move him at the deadline.

If he wants a reasonable deal then give 3/4 years as he is still young and can help going forward. Also still allows guys to develop. If he is being unreasonable then move him for what you can.
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