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benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jul 6 @ 10:25 AM ET
I disagree.. He didnt look out of place at all.. He had very bad puck luck, but his motor and positioning were not out of place at all. He had a ton of great chances, but the puck wasnt going home. That happens... For a rookie he look really comfortable, until the head injury.
- jak521


I think you gave a perfect evaluation. I thought he showed pretty well up until the injury. He had good speed (something we desperately need), tenacity, his positioning was good, like you said- he wasn't getting any bounces. This is also not to say that he didn't make any mistakes, cuz he did, but that has to be expected from a first year nhl player. And if you expect a 100% perfect game from a young player, you're in for an AWFULLY rude awakening....
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 10:26 AM ET
It would be fine if Laughton is that guy, but he wasn't ready for that last season. His offensive game isn't there yet. He's strong on his skates, strong on the puck in board battles, and a strong forchcker. His play with the puck needs further development.
- MJL

I never said he had zero strengths but there are two sides to the puck in the NHL and he's weak on one of those sides.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 6 @ 10:28 AM ET
I think you gave a perfect evaluation. I thought he showed pretty well up until the injury. He had good speed (something we desperately need), tenacity, his positioning was good, like you said- he wasn't getting any bounces. This is also not to say that he didn't make any mistakes, cuz he did, but that has to be expected from a first year nhl player. And if you expect a 100% perfect game from a young player, you're in for an AWFULLY rude awakening....
- benjichronic

There were a handful of games where he was our most dangerous player, but just couldnt buy a break. Tons of times where he hit the post, or had a goalie make a remarkable save. But he also did have times where he was holding the puck just a bit too long, or looked to pass when he should have just shot, but he was a tertiary contributor as a rookie. That stuff should be expected. The concussion totally took the good stuff away.. and he even struggled in the AHL.

Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:31 AM ET
Scott Laughton doesn't need to be that guy.
- SuperSchennBros


That's the kind of player he is tho... takes the puck to the high traffic areas, creates chances.

If you don't like him w/ Simmer, then write Hakstol some fan mail.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 10:31 AM ET
I think you gave a perfect evaluation. I thought he showed pretty well up until the injury. He had good speed (something we desperately need), tenacity, his positioning was good, like you said- he wasn't getting any bounces. This is also not to say that he didn't make any mistakes, cuz he did, but that has to be expected from a first year nhl player. And if you expect a 100% perfect game from a young player, you're in for an AWFULLY rude awakening....
- benjichronic

You keep bringing up Perfect passes or 100% perfect game when from my standpoint, he never improved with the puck during his time at the NHL level. I saw a who was struggling to create offense or score goals and in doing so at times would try to do everything himself, which showed signs of frustration. Someone on here made a good point by pointing out that after the Niskanen hit, when Laughton was inserted into the line up against Washington, Laughon challenged Niskanen to a fight and got pounded which wasn't smart. I just feel these are all signs of a kid who needs to be more aware of his capabilities and not making decisions based on frustration, emotion or pride.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 6 @ 10:32 AM ET
Thats not a bad thing... although I think Couts is gonna turn a lot of heads this season..
- jak521

me too. a lot of head shaking.
SuperSchennBros
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Jul 6 @ 10:33 AM ET
That's the kind of player he is tho... takes the puck to the high traffic areas, creates chances.

If you don't like him w/ Simmer, then write Hakstol some fan mail.

- Tomahawk


I didn't realize Hakstol was our coach last season...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 6 @ 10:33 AM ET
me too. a lot of head shaking.
- rinaldo

Yup.. he is a terrible player. Should cut while we can.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:35 AM ET
Yup.. he is a terrible player. Should cut while we can.
- jak521


trade him to boston for rinaldo
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 6 @ 10:36 AM ET
Yup.. he is a terrible player. Should cut while we can.
- jak521

who said he was terrible? I must have missed that part.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 6 @ 10:38 AM ET
Yeah, 'cause that never happens in here.
- tangent_man


Remember when Ghost wasn't going to sign with the Flyers after his junior year?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:41 AM ET
I didn't realize Hakstol was our coach last season...
- SuperSchennBros


Same.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 6 @ 10:42 AM ET
who said he was terrible? I must have missed that part.
- rinaldo

I just did.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 6 @ 10:43 AM ET
trade him to boston for rinaldo
- funmaster18


We can trade posters?!?!
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jul 6 @ 10:43 AM ET
He was slow to make decisions with the puck, period.
- SuperSchennBros


And I'll say it one more time, being able to make quick, smart, effective decisions with the puck is something that comes with time. Not every prospect is Tavares, Crosby, mcdavid.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:44 AM ET
You keep bringing up Perfect passes or 100% perfect game when from my standpoint, he never improved with the puck during his time at the NHL level. I saw a who was struggling to create offense or score goals and in doing so at times would try to do everything himself, which showed signs of frustration. Someone on here made a good point by pointing out that after the Niskanen hit, when Laughton was inserted into the line up against Washington, Laughon challenged Niskanen to a fight and got pounded which wasn't smart. I just feel these are all signs of a kid who needs to be more aware of his capabilities and not making decisions based on frustration, emotion or pride.
- SuperSchennBros


I have a hard time levying judgment on a player (kid or vet) that wants to exact some type of revenge for a dirty (or clean) hit. You often hear of vets remembering numbers for months and years to an extent. I'm glad he came back and was willing to hit/get hit. Much more preferable to him shying from contact. Sorry, but it sounds like you're reaching.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 10:45 AM ET
You keep bringing up Perfect passes or 100% perfect game when from my standpoint, he never improved with the puck during his time at the NHL level. I saw a who was struggling to create offense or score goals and in doing so at times would try to do everything himself, which showed signs of frustration. Someone on here made a good point by pointing out that after the Niskanen hit, when Laughton was inserted into the line up against Washington, Laughon challenged Niskanen to a fight and got pounded which wasn't smart. I just feel these are all signs of a kid who needs to be more aware of his capabilities and not making decisions based on frustration, emotion or pride.
- SuperSchennBros



You never want to take that fire or competitveness away from a kid. Challenging Niskanen showed his character and fire.
SuperSchennBros
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Jul 6 @ 10:45 AM ET
I have a hard time levying judgment on a player (kid or vet) that wants to exact some type of revenge for a dirty (or clean) hit. You often hear of vets remembering numbers for months and years to an extent. I'm glad he came back and was willing to hit/get hit. Much more preferable to him shying from contact. Sorry, but it sounds like you're reaching.
- steelydan

He had a concussion!!!
SuperSchennBros
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Jul 6 @ 10:46 AM ET
You never want to take that fire or competitveness away from a kid. Challenging Niskanen showed his character and fire.
- MJL

He had a concussion!!
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 6 @ 10:48 AM ET
I just did.
- jak521

terrible, no. severely overrated yes.
SuperSchennBros
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Jul 6 @ 10:50 AM ET
And I'll say it one more time, being able to make quick, smart, effective decisions with the puck is something that comes with time. Not every prospect is Tavares, Crosby, mcdavid.
- benjichronic

You can improve on a shift to shift basis. Laughton is probably the slowest I've seen develop among names like Simon Gagne, Justin Williams, Mike Richards, Jeff Carter, Steve Downie (Yes, Steve Downie), Claude Giroux, James van Riemsdyk, Brayden Schenn and Sean Couturier. None of these players began their careers doing what Crosby or Tavares could do. In fact, most of these players (Not all) were better offensively then they were defensively when they came into the league.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 6 @ 10:50 AM ET
terrible, no. severely overrated yes.
- rinaldo

severely overrated in what regard?

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 6 @ 10:51 AM ET
You can improve on a shift to shift basis. Laughton is probably the slowest I've seen develop among names like Simon Gagne, Justin Williams, Mike Richards, Jeff Carter, Steve Downie (Yes, Steve Downie), Claude Giroux, James van Riemsdyk, Brayden Schenn and Sean Couturier. None of these players began their careers doing what Crosby or Tavares could do. In fact, most of these players (Not all) were better offensively then they were defensively when they came into the league.
- SuperSchennBros

I have absolutely no clue how to interpret this post?

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 10:51 AM ET
He had a concussion!!
- SuperSchennBros



He was cleared to play.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jul 6 @ 10:52 AM ET
He had a concussion!!!
- SuperSchennBros


He was also cleared to play!!!
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