He had a concussion!!
- SuperSchennBros

Your correct.

But there is a reason why he was drafted. He played a certain style and that's what got him drafted. If you try to change the way he plays then your not getting the best of the player.

You can improve on a shift to shift basis. Laughton is probably the slowest I've seen develop among names like Simon Gagne, Justin Williams, Mike Richards, Jeff Carter, Steve Downie (Yes, Steve Downie), Claude Giroux, James van Riemsdyk, Brayden Schenn and Sean Couturier. None of these players began their careers doing what Crosby or Tavares could do. In fact, most of these players (Not all) were better offensively then they were defensively when they came into the league.
- SuperSchennBros

Just to confirm. This is the same kid that has played a total of 36 NHL games, right?

I wouldnt sweat that at all.. He is my first call up
- jak521

I can't remember the last time this franchise had a prospect like Laughton as a first call up.

Usually, our first call ups are veteran AHL guys, it seems.

all ill say about laughton is he still lokked better than umberger and vinny

severely overrated in what regard?
- jak521

not as good as people think. he is not irreplaceable on this team. never going to be a big offensive point producer. not a diff maker.

all you hear about is how he shut malkin down years ago for a few games; did he really though? how he has bad line mates; yet I don't see him making his line mates any better. he is a good player though I expect more from a #8 overall pick who could have went #1 had he not got sick.

let me ask you a question. do you think they are really any worse off without him?

Just to confirm. This is the same kid that has played a total of 36 NHL games, right?
- steelydan

so slow to develop!!!!

Just to confirm. This is the same kid that has played a total of 36 NHL games, right?
- steelydan

Like you inferred, it's not fair to evaluate a player that's gotten one actual look at the nhl so far.

Look at ryan johansen, after his first two nhl seasons, he had 107 games played, and 32 points to show for it. Then he goes on to have a 63 point season in 13-14. I bet cbj is pretty happy they didn't cut him after his first two poopty seasons

He was cleared to play.
- MJL

But the concussion also effectived his play, right?

He was also cleared to play!!!
- steelydan

You can't tell me you aren't piggy backing on the guy above.

Just to confirm. This is the same kid that has played a total of 36 NHL games, right?
- steelydan

Right.

Your correct.

But there is a reason why he was drafted. He played a certain style and that's what got him drafted. If you try to change the way he plays then your not getting the best of the player.
- J35Bacher

Sure. What do you project him as becoming?

But the concussion also effectived his play, right?

You can't tell me you aren't piggy backing on the guy above.
- SuperSchennBros

sometimes players lose their timing, condition and rythmn when they mis a couple weeks. not saying that happened but it was understandable.

I have absolutely no clue how to interpret this post?
- jak521

My argument has been he hasn't been good with the puck. Most of the forwards we drafted in the past 15 years have been, with offense not being an issue. You don't know how to interpret this?

not as good as people think. he is not irreplaceable on this team. never going to be a big offensive point producer. not a diff maker.

all you hear about is how he shut malkin down years ago for a few games; did he really though? how he has bad line mates; yet I don't see him making his line mates any better. he is a good player though I expect more from a #8 overall pick who could have went #1 had he not got sick.

let me ask you a question. do you think they are really any worse off without him?
- rinaldo

He may never develop into a great offensive player, but I'm not sure how you can even ask this question and expect a serious response.

sometimes players lose their timing, condition and rythmn when they mis a couple weeks. not saying that happened but it was understandable.
- JoeRussomanno

He was off for a while even when he returned to the Phantoms. It's not uncommon after a guy suffers a concussion.

He may never develop into a great offensive player, but I'm not sure how you can even ask this question and expect a serious response.
- PhillySportsGuy

explain

sometimes players lose their timing, condition and rythmn when they mis a couple weeks. not saying that happened but it was understandable.
- JoeRussomanno

Sure, I can't argue this but it was so bad that he was taking out of the line up completely. We saw Steve Downie in his trade back to Philly 2 years ago really effected by concussions both from hits and fights. So should we not worry when a kid instantly provokes a fight right after a concussion?

Funny, I remember that first fight Downie had in his return to Philly being against a Capitals player.

sometimes players lose their timing, condition and rythmn when they mis a couple weeks. not saying that happened but it was understandable.
- JoeRussomanno

Yep, same as with any other injury

He was off for a while even when he returned to the Phantoms. It's not uncommon after a guy suffers a concussion.
- PhillySportsGuy

its not like this organization would reinsert a player who isn't fully healthy!

He may never develop into a great offensive player, but I'm not sure how you can even ask this question and expect a serious response.
- PhillySportsGuy

very easily. so they finished with 33 wins. without him how many do they still have?

Sure, I can't argue this but it was so bad that he was taking out of the line up completely. We saw Steve Downie in his trade back to Philly 2 years ago really effected by concussions both from hits and fights. So should we not worry when a kid instantly provokes a fight right after a concussion?

Funny, I remember that first fight Downie had in his return to Philly being against a Capitals player.
- SuperSchennBros

so you're faulting him for showing heart?

explain
- JoeRussomanno

He takes on a great deal of the defensive burden for this team and handles himself well. If he wasn't here they'd have to either use Giroux a lot more in the defensive zone, which would limit scoring opportunities for him or use one of the other centers a lot in the defensive zone, which would be a disaster.

He's the type of player you won't miss until he's gone.

very easily. so they finished with 33 wins. without him how many do they still have?
- rinaldo

listen you can't criticize a team or its players that has missed the playoffs two out of three years! it's tough out there!

not as good as people think. he is not irreplaceable on this team. never going to be a big offensive point producer. not a diff maker.

all you hear about is how he shut malkin down years ago for a few games; did he really though? how he has bad line mates; yet I don't see him making his line mates any better. he is a good player though I expect more from a #8 overall pick who could have went #1 had he not got sick.

let me ask you a question. do you think they are really any worse off without him?
- rinaldo

Yes.. I think outside of G and Jake he is far and away our most important forward.

Is he as offensively dominant as we hoped he would be? No... but he really isnt all that far off from where he needs to be (offensively) before people start saying he is a premier two way forward.

If his PP number were to even marginally increase.. people his numbers would look better and people would be clamoring over his two way ability.

He is far and away our best defensive forward. He plays extremely tough minutes and yet is still about as offensively productive as Brayden Schenn..

very easily. so they finished with 33 wins. without him how many do they still have?
- rinaldo

It would just be another major they'd need to fill for the future

He takes on a great deal of the defensive burden for this team and handles himself well. If he wasn't here they'd have to either use Giroux a lot more in the defensive zone, which would limit scoring opportunities for him or use one of the other centers a lot in the defensive zone, which would be a disaster.

He's the type of player you won't miss until he's gone.
- PhillySportsGuy

nah they would've just resigned adam hall or some other third liner to do that. next.