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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 10:01 AM ET
Since free agency is dragging on, anyone think a guy like Eric Fehr could be had on a cheaper (~$1.5M) deal that was expected? I think it could be like a Vokoun situation, where he priced himself out of a deal and had to settle for less than expected int he end. He's the only remaining forward UFA that I'd have interest in.
- jmatchett383



I don't know about his salary demands, but for the right price, I'd certainly have interest. He's an underrated player.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 7 @ 10:01 AM ET
Since free agency is dragging on, anyone think a guy like Eric Fehr could be had on a cheaper (~$1.5M) deal that was expected? I think it could be like a Vokoun situation, where he priced himself out of a deal and had to settle for less than expected int he end. He's the only remaining forward UFA that I'd have interest in.
- jmatchett383



I probably would have interest if someone was moved. I don't really see a spot for him right now unless Laughton and Cousins start the year in the AHL.. Have to think your forwards right now are:


Giroux
Voracek
Raffl
Couturier
Gagner
Schenn
Simmonds
Read
White
Vandevelde
Bellemare
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 7 @ 10:03 AM ET
I also like Skittles.
- Streit2ThePoint

and Arizona ice tea?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 7 @ 10:04 AM ET
Small sample size obviously, but he didn't look remotely ready for the NHL last year. Losing a year of development really hurts. I'm hoping the end product is he's a facsimile of Torey Krug. That is best case scenario with Ghost.
- PLindbergh31


Torey Krug is what I was hoping to see when I thought of projections, although I think he's faster and has a harder shot than Krug, and is a better passer.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 7 @ 10:04 AM ET
Agreed. Slight upgrade with the puck and a huge downgrade without it. MDZ is no defensive shutdown player, but Schultz borders on inept defensively.
- jmatchett383

The Oilers essentially had him playing mid-field at one point with 2 D men behind him and 2 forwards in from of him.

He's that bad.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 7 @ 10:04 AM ET
and Arizona ice tea?
- rinaldo


I like their green tea
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 7 @ 10:05 AM ET

- Tomahawk


That looked like pond hockey.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 7 @ 10:05 AM ET
I probably would have interest if someone was moved. I don't really see a spot for him right now unless Laughton and Cousins start the year in the AHL.. Have to think your forwards right now are:


Giroux
Voracek
Raffl
Couturier
Gagner
Schenn
Simmonds
Read
White
Vandevelde
Bellemare

- J35Bacher


I'd have no problem putting VdV on the bench if we could put Fehr in his spot. Also, I think that Laughton has a spot to lose at camp, but think Cousins would have to earn one.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jul 7 @ 10:07 AM ET
I probably would have interest if someone was moved. I don't really see a spot for him right now unless Laughton and Cousins start the year in the AHL.. Have to think your forwards right now are:


Giroux
Voracek
Raffl
Couturier
Gagner
Schenn
Simmonds
Read
White
Vandevelde
Bellemare

- J35Bacher


You're missing the UmberTaker
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 7 @ 10:08 AM ET
if he signed for that cheap why would he want to come here? one would think better teams would be interested.
- rinaldo


I don't know, and I'm not the Flyers GM. But as time drags on, I feel that it would be in the best interest of the team to approach him with an offer in that area. And if he says no either because he's holding out for more $$ or doesn't wanna come, then you thank him for his time speaking with you and move on. But as more and more time passes, chances are he'd be willing to take less money, and it's a matter of what teams would be willing to match that (or come close) that he'd rather play for.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 7 @ 10:08 AM ET
You're missing the UmberTaker
- Baxter27


For that matter, VLC is also missing.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 7 @ 10:09 AM ET
I'd have no problem putting VdV on the bench if we could put Fehr in his spot. Also, I think that Laughton has a spot to lose at camp, but think Cousins would have to earn one.
- jmatchett383



Actually I think Vandevelde and White both have cap hits that can be buried in the AHL if needed.

I like Fehr too and think he would be a solid 3rd line player. I still have a feeling that one of Read or Simmonds are moved before the season starts. No concrete info but just a feeling.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 7 @ 10:10 AM ET
The Oilers essentially had him playing mid-field at one point with 2 D men behind him and 2 forwards in from of him.

He's that bad.

- hereticpride


Glad to see that the Oilers have brought back the rover position.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 7 @ 10:10 AM ET
mallo cup is the best candy with fruit slices a close 2nd.
- rinaldo


Mallo cups are the pride of Altoona, PA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyer_Brothers.

So you can add "Mallo cups" to things Western PA folks can make, right after "meth".

Also:

Goldenberg's Peanut Chews >>>>> Mallo Cups

Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jul 7 @ 10:10 AM ET
For that matter, VLC is also missing.
- jmatchett383


Wishful thinking, I get it.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 7 @ 10:11 AM ET
You're missing the UmberTaker
- Baxter27


I think I like this better than Zomberger.

On the other hand, the "Umbertaker" implies that RJ is going to bury someone and "Zomberger" implies that the dude is dead man walking.

I'll need to think about it.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 7 @ 10:12 AM ET
Actually I think Vandevelde and White both have cap hits that can be buried in the AHL if needed.

I like Fehr too and think he would be a solid 3rd line player. I still have a feeling that one of Read or Simmonds are moved before the season starts. No concrete info but just a feeling.

- J35Bacher


I don't think Simmonds moves unless it's for a bona fide young, veteran top pair defenseman (i.e. not for Phaneuf). Read I think will eventually be moves as a cap casualty, but moving him now would be selling a player at his lowest.

I'd bury VdV if I had to, but I'd like to keep White on as the 13th forward (although "technically" that would be VLC).
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jul 7 @ 10:15 AM ET
Since free agency is dragging on, anyone think a guy like Eric Fehr could be had on a cheaper (~$1.5M) deal that was expected? I think it could be like a Vokoun situation, where he priced himself out of a deal and had to settle for less than expected int he end. He's the only remaining forward UFA that I'd have interest in.
- jmatchett383



I wouldn't mind have fehr as a depth player. He's got speed, he's big, strong, plays good defense. We really don't have much room for him though.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
McDavid w/ 5 goals in his NHL exhibition debut.
- Tomahawk



didn't JVR do something similar in the rookie game against the caps? 4 goals or something?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
For that matter, VLC is also missing.
- jmatchett383



wishful thinking on both
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
I don't know about his salary demands, but for the right price, I'd certainly have interest. He's an underrated player.
- MJL


He's a terrible skater tho... like he's Vinny slow. After Gagner, not sure they can add another guy who doesn't skate well.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 7 @ 10:29 AM ET
I don't think Simmonds moves unless it's for a bona fide young, veteran top pair defenseman (i.e. not for Phaneuf). Read I think will eventually be moves as a cap casualty, but moving him now would be selling a player at his lowest.

I'd bury VdV if I had to, but I'd like to keep White on as the 13th forward (although "technically" that would be VLC).

- jmatchett383



Yeah. I wouldn't mind using Simmonds to move Macdonald or Vinny's contracts. Could you move them to Arizona for a pick and Branden Perlini who is a LW. Could you maybe get Virtanen from Vancouver. I don't know. I just have some gut feeling that either Read or Simmonds are moved.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 10:36 AM ET
He's a terrible skater tho... like he's Vinny slow. After Gagner, not sure they can add another guy who doesn't skate well.
- Tomahawk



From what I've seen, I don't think he's a terrible skater.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 7 @ 10:39 AM ET
Mallo cups are the pride of Altoona, PA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyer_Brothers.

So you can add "Mallo cups" to things Western PA folks can make, right after "meth".

Also:

Goldenberg's Peanut Chews >>>>> Mallo Cups

- johndewar

no way. mallo cups rule.
they still make bit o honey?
isn't bucks county known, or was, as the meth capital of the world or up there anyway?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jul 7 @ 10:40 AM ET
I don't know, and I'm not the Flyers GM. But as time drags on, I feel that it would be in the best interest of the team to approach him with an offer in that area. And if he says no either because he's holding out for more $$ or doesn't wanna come, then you thank him for his time speaking with you and move on. But as more and more time passes, chances are he'd be willing to take less money, and it's a matter of what teams would be willing to match that (or come close) that he'd rather play for.
- jmatchett383

sure you can talk to him. I would as well. for that money I just see better teams going after him. obviously it is his call
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