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SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 12 @ 3:20 PM ET
I understand all the Foligno sucks legion but why are we working so hard to get rid of somebody that is cheap and can fill a role, meaning 3rd or 4th line, when guys like Legwand are both not the answer and will be gone after this year?

Unless a top 4 D comes back as part of a package that includes Foligno, why get rid of him? He's cheap now and will be going forward.

- kingcong39

We don't need Foligno
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 12 @ 3:43 PM ET
Foligno to the Canucks for Vrbata
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 12 @ 3:49 PM ET
Foligno to the Canucks for Vrbata
- SABRES 89


Vrbata's a UFA next year, and he's got a NTC.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 12 @ 3:55 PM ET
I understand all the Foligno sucks legion but why are we working so hard to get rid of somebody that is cheap and can fill a role, meaning 3rd or 4th line, when guys like Legwand are both not the answer and will be gone after this year?

Unless a top 4 D comes back as part of a package that includes Foligno, why get rid of him? He's cheap now and will be going forward.

- kingcong39

I don't hate foligno, his dad was my favorite sabre


IMO they need a top 4 d man aand have to package a few guys to get him and IMO Foligno is a name that should be considered as there will probably never be a place for him on our top 6 if he gets it together and I'd rather have a better d man here and someone not named foligno on the 4th line then have foligno on the 4th line
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 12 @ 3:56 PM ET

- DynamicThreads

same player IMO
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jul 12 @ 4:00 PM ET
dude...no question...but what we fans have gone through the last two seasons I would wish on no one
- Michael Pachla

Yeah but without that you don't get top end talent.
Unless you have absolute stellar scouts and development program (like top 5 in the league at least) - you can't build a top team from a crappy team unless you do be really really bad for a couple of seasons.

He's done a good job in getting Evander Kane, Robin Lehner - two guys that some might say have bad attitudes, but work with them and you could really showcase those high ceilings.

What are the lines next year?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 12 @ 4:14 PM ET
jays put up 7 runs already in the 6th


get them a few arms now!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 12 @ 4:35 PM ET
jays put up 7 runs already in the 6th


get them a few arms now!!!!!!!!!!!!

- homiedclown



Marcus Strom....


oh
rover16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.09.2012

Jul 12 @ 4:51 PM ET
I understand all the Foligno sucks legion but why are we working so hard to get rid of somebody that is cheap and can fill a role, meaning 3rd or 4th line, when guys like Legwand are both not the answer and will be gone after this year?

Unless a top 4 D comes back as part of a package that includes Foligno, why get rid of him? He's cheap now and will be going forward.

- kingcong39


I like him, but he is a role player, and deslauriers provides a very similar skill set. If he gets moved for help on d im good with it. Im not big on advanced stats, deslauriers was one of the worst players in the league as far as advanced stats. Anybody know how foligno was?
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Jul 12 @ 4:52 PM ET
better player IMO
- homiedclown


fixed

I think what Foligno doesn't have, he does.
DynamicThreads
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 07.03.2013

Jul 12 @ 5:03 PM ET
http://www.uni-watch.com/...redesign-contest-part-ii/


So this website I follow, uni-watch, is having a contest to re-design the Tampa Rays for a possible relocation (it seems inevitable for them at this point) and the top submission is for a Buffalo based team that keeps the nickname Rays (I'm sure some of us know that Buffalo has the sunniest summers in the continental USA, and is one of the top places for sun year round in the USA).

Pretty nice, and it uses Sabres colors.


Edit: Reading further, there is a second Buffalo submission, Buffalo "Wings" haha. Awesome.


Buffalo Rays Logo (sure is purdy): https://farm1.staticflick...92574439_6e210b8083_o.jpg

And Uni: https://farm1.staticflick...52976716_7ac2cd9bdf_o.png

Buffalo Wings Logo: https://farm1.staticflick...57756483_9eb41ce9ee_o.png

And Uni: https://farm1.staticflick...71795902_61bc9fd651_o.png
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 12 @ 5:35 PM ET
I don't hate foligno, his dad was my favorite sabre


IMO they need a top 4 d man aand have to package a few guys to get him and IMO Foligno is a name that should be considered as there will probably never be a place for him on our top 6 if he gets it together and I'd rather have a better d man here and someone not named foligno on the 4th line then have foligno on the 4th line

- homiedclown


Or sign Oduya for 3 years and keep the prospects. I know it takes two to tango but there's a better chance than ever that Oduya leaves chi
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 12 @ 5:56 PM ET
What did I miss?
BuffaloKyle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Hornell, NY
Joined: 02.07.2009

Jul 12 @ 6:13 PM ET
Chapman is the truth!
SABRES 89
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Jul 12 @ 7:17 PM ET
They are going to up there offer to Oduya, why I don't know.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 12 @ 7:47 PM ET
They are going to up there offer to Oduya, why I don't know.
- SABRES 89



oh i can't wait for the comments after.
SABRES 89
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Jul 12 @ 7:51 PM ET
oh i can't wait for the comments after.
- Sabresfan-365

I don't agree with this if Murray does this, he's not going to get us 12-15 goals
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 12 @ 7:56 PM ET
I don't agree with this if Murray does this, he's not going to get us 12-15 goals
- SABRES 89


I agree. I wanted him at the start of free agency but was reminded of his days before joining the hawks, he was a giveaway machine.

He's not the guy you want if you're trying to make a run for 8th.
SABRES 89
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Jul 12 @ 8:01 PM ET
I agree. I wanted him at the start of free agency but was reminded of his days before joining the hawks, he was a giveaway machine.

He's not the guy you want if you're trying to make a run for 8th.

- Sabresfan-365

I'm hoping he's not focused on Oduya like he was ROR, I don't think Oduya is worth north of 4 a year and in my opinion he's not worth 4. That seems to be the going rate I guess
TerryPegula
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 12.02.2010

Jul 12 @ 8:03 PM ET
They are going to up there offer to Oduya, why I don't know.
- SABRES 89


The guy has been irrelevant until he played some solid defense for a small stretch of his career.

Suddenly he's the next great superstar...at age 33.
SABRES 89
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Jul 12 @ 8:07 PM ET
The guy has been irrelevant until he played some solid defense for a small stretch of his career.

Suddenly he's the next great superstar...at age 33.

- TerryPegula

Don't shoot the messenger I took my son to see the new Minion movie and my phone went off with the text that they want to offer him more money. IMO Oduya is a product of how good the Hawks are
TerryPegula
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 12.02.2010

Jul 12 @ 8:09 PM ET
Don't shoot the messenger I took my son to see the new Minion movie and my phone went off with the text that they want to offer him more money. IMO Oduya is a product of how good the Hawks are
- SABRES 89


Oh I'm not trying to. Just giving my two cents on the guy.

Good to see some new info about what's going on
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 12 @ 8:16 PM ET
They are going to up there offer to Oduya, why I don't know.
- SABRES 89



Murray must really want him, or doesn't like the D as is currently and just wants somebody.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
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Jul 12 @ 8:20 PM ET
They're better off signing Jan Hejda or Zidlicky on a 1 year contract then over paying for Oduya at this point.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 12 @ 8:28 PM ET
As much as I like Deslauriers, he and Foligno are not the same player.

Foligno is better.

There are distorted perceptions of Foligno because people expect him to be a top 6 player (not sure when that was ever going to be the case in his career unless the kool aid was consumed the first bunch of games he played) and the same holds true for Deslauriers because he plays well for a 4th line player which is all people expect of him.

Deslauriers is a 4th line player. Foligno is a 3rd/4th line player.

If both are on your 4th line, to me it means you have a very strong top 9 and you are rolling 4 lines consistently and likely winning a lot of games.
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