it was all planned lol they are friends
- gerbe75pts

I didn't say they weren't. But hockey gets competitive and in the moment things happen. Don't know if you were there but I was sitting 15 rows up behind the net gold shot on twice and saw Fasching shove Eichel and they chirped. Must've been "planned" since they're in the same organization

Not all of them will, some will surpass.

Having a much improved offense will help the D as well. 10-15 is where we will be picking. Closer to the playoffs than the lottery
- Stripes77

With a team as young/inexperienced as they are, you can't really make a definitive statement like that.


If Ristolainen regresses even slightly that team gives up just as many goals as it did last year, even with the improved offence.

depending on who the top 4 d-man they add is, i could see them picking anywhere from 1-9.

So when Chapman knocked Kea on his ass that was planned? When Kea got up and chirped him into a fight that was planned? Idk what you were watching but the kid can skate imo. Will he ever play in Buffalo? Probably not but he'd be a good Rochester pickup
- thezemgustrain

Chapman didn't knock Kea on his arse, it was maxwell Willman who went down. Kea came on via a line change and they had their scrap.

I didn't say they weren't. But hockey gets competitive and in the moment things happen. Don't know if you were there but I was sitting 15 rows up behind the net gold shot on twice and saw Fasching shove Eichel and they chirped. Must've been "planned" since they're in the same organization
- thezemgustrain

Adam Chapman @BIGchaps63

Looking forward to watching the replays from @jchaps2 fights after Buffalos Blue and Gold game.
5:53 PM - 10 Jul 2015

With a team as young/inexperienced as they are, you can't really make a definitive statement like that.


If Ristolainen regresses even slightly that team gives up just as many goals as it did last year, even with the improved offence.

depending on who the top 4 d-man they add is, i could see them picking anywhere from 1-9.
- Sabresfan-365

it's just going to be like last summer small number of us said we will be picking 1 other half said playoffs or close ..

it's just going to be like last summer small number of us said we will be picking 1 other half said playoffs or close ..
- gerbe75pts

It's not like it's a bad thing. look at the records of teams who draft around 5, 6 or 7 that'd be a colossal improvement for this team. And that top 10 pick becomes a key trade asset.

10-15 range is where they will be picking when its all said and done IMO.

Adding 4 very talented players to the top 6 will do wonders.

They still need to add a top 4 D but just good top 6 forwards will help the D out tremendously, oh and a competent coach to boot.

Kane- 55-60 points ROR 55-60 points Ennis 50-60 points
Moulson 45-50 points Eichel 45-50 points Reinhart 45-50 points
McGinn 30-40 points Girgensons 30-40 points Gionta 30-40 points
Folingo 20-30 points Legwand 20-30 points Larrson 20-30 points

When Brian Flynn with 17 points in in the top 10 on your team in scoring as he was last year(even after being dealt at the deadline) something is very wrong.

There will be a lot of improvements. The Sabres imo will be closer to the playoffs than the lottery.
- Stripes77

You are officially out of your mind with those point totals.

It's not like it's a bad thing. look at the records of teams who draft around 5, 6 or 7 that'd be a colossal improvement for this team. And that top 10 pick becomes a key trade asset.
- Sabresfan-365

its not going to be this team will be fun to watch

but people saying playoffs etc .. idk lol

You are officially out of your mind with those point totals.
- bjm1717

I couldn't care less what you think thanks for posting

Do some research before you post it might actually do you some good, and keep you busy for a little bit.

how does this look for sabres depth chart?
not as familiar with the team as you guys, let me know what you think.

What are the needs for the rest of the off-season?

Kane - O'Reilly - Ennis
Moulson - Reinhart - Eichel
Foligno - Legwand - Gionta
McGinn - Girgensons - Deslauriers
McCormick - Larsson

Gorges - Ristolainen
Weber - Bogosian
Mccabe - Pysyk
Ruhdewel - Colaiacovo

Lehner
Johnson
- k1234

Good attempt but girgs won't be 4th line, eichel and reinhart won't be paired together (and certainly not with Eichel on the wing) and if Weber is second line D we are in seriously trouble

Good attempt but girgs won't be 4th line, eichel and reinhart won't be paired together (and certainly not with Eichel on the wing) and if Weber is second line D we are in seriously trouble
- turbo044

I actually think there is a good chance Reinhart plays on Eichel's wing

I couldn't care less what you think thanks for posting

Do some research before you post it might actually do you some good, and keep you busy for a little bit.
- Stripes77

No worries.

I didn't post the numbers, you did. There is no research to be done unless you can see into the future.

I couldn't care less what you think thanks for posting

Do some research before you post it might actually do you some good, and keep you busy for a little bit.
- Stripes77

You have 6 guys projecting over 45 points. We had 0 last year.

We aren't just going to start lighting the world on fire yet.

Just imagine when Bogosian inevitably gets hurt for his annual 15-20 games and Josh Gorges or Mike Weber get pushed into the top 3-4.

We also have 0 clue what Lehner will do.

I couldn't care less what you think thanks for posting

Do some research before you post it might actually do you some good, and keep you busy for a little bit.
- Stripes77

I'll humor you. Let's use Columbus as a comparable. They were middle of the pack last year and that's the best case scenario for buffalo next season imo.

Foligno 73
Johansen 71
hartnell 60
Atkinson 40
dubinsky 36
anisimov 27
Calvert 23
wennberg 20
letestu 13
skilled 8

That's essentially their top 10 forwards.....and you think forwards 10-12 for us will put up at least 20 points. Doubt it.

Thanks for putting me to work.

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Must read
- Stripes77

Awesome read btw.

My projections:

Kane- 55-60 points ROR 55-60 points Ennis 50-60 points
Moulson 45-50 points Eichel 45-50 points Reinhart 45-50 points
McGinn 30-40 points Girgensons 30-40 points Gionta 30-40 points
Folingo 20-30 points Legwand 20-30 points Larrson 20-30 points

Last 3 year averages:

Kane .648 ppg played in 74 percent of the games so his average is 41 points, he missed over half of last years games which significantly lowers his percentage of games played.

ROR .727 ppg played in 90% of the games and was a hold out contract issue in the short season. So averages out to 54 points

Ennis .585 ppg played in 97% of the games also scored 46 points on the worst team in the league last year. Averaged out to 46 points ppg is 4 more points out of reach?

Moulson: .683 ppg played in 94% of the games 53 points

Eichel and Reinhart are question marks

Girgensons: hit 30 points in 61 games last season

McGinn: .455 ppg almost missed 3/4th of the games last year but only missed 4 total games in the previous 2 seasons 68% averaged to 26 points

Gionta: Scored 35 points in 69 games last season. Sure he point totals are falling due his career winding down but he still contributes.

So again averages in the last 3 years with games played taken into consideration.

My totals aren't far fetched at all. Sure new team, new linemates etc will play into these things, some will click sooner than others, some will have break out years (Ennis, Girgensons) some will regress a little, but there is no reason (barring some major career injuries) these totals cannot be reached.

I'll humor you. Let's use Columbus as a comparable. They were middle of the pack last year and that's the best case scenario for buffalo next season imo.

Foligno 73
Johansen 71
hartnell 60
Atkinson 40
dubinsky 36
anisimov 27
Calvert 23
wennberg 20
letestu 13
skilled 8

That's essentially their top 10 forwards.....and you think forwards 10-12 for us will put up at least 20 points. Doubt it.

Thanks for putting me to work.
- bjm1717

You forgot Dano with 21 in 35 and Jenner with 17 in 31.

You have 6 guys projecting over 45 points. We had 0 last year.

We aren't just going to start lighting the world on fire yet.

Just imagine when Bogosian inevitably gets hurt for his annual 15-20 games and Josh Gorges or Mike Weber get pushed into the top 3-4.

We also have 0 clue what Lehner will do.
- sbroads24

We had 1 and we also added 4 players to the top 6.

You can think what you want I will do the same. People are acting like I am saying we will have 5 ppg players on this team.

My projections:

Kane- 55-60 points ROR 55-60 points Ennis 50-60 points
Moulson 45-50 points Eichel 45-50 points Reinhart 45-50 points
McGinn 30-40 points Girgensons 30-40 points Gionta 30-40 points
Folingo 20-30 points Legwand 20-30 points Larrson 20-30 points

Last 3 year averages:

Kane .648 ppg played in 74 percent of the games so his average is 41 points, he missed over half of last years games which significantly lowers his percentage of games played.

ROR .727 ppg played in 90% of the games and was a hold out contract issue in the short season. So averages out to 54 points

Ennis .585 ppg played in 97% of the games also scored 46 points on the worst team in the league last year. Averaged out to 46 points ppg is 4 more points out of reach?

Moulson: .683 ppg played in 94% of the games 53 points

Eichel and Reinhart are question marks

Girgensons: hit 30 points in 61 games last season

McGinn: .455 ppg almost missed 3/4th of the games last year but only missed 4 total games in the previous 2 seasons 68% averaged to 26 points

Gionta: Scored 35 points in 69 games last season. Sure he point totals are falling due his career winding down but he still contributes.

So again averages in the last 3 years with games played taken into consideration.

My totals aren't far fetched at all. Sure new team, new linemates etc will play into these things, some will click sooner than others, some will have break out years (Ennis, Girgensons) some will regress a little, but there is no reason (barring some major career injuries) these totals cannot be reached.
- Stripes77

Nice research but, all of those numbers with the top end guys were with different teams and players in different situations. With that being said I don't have as much issue with the top two lines as I do with the bottom two lines. I think there is no chance the sabres 4th line projects out to where you have them....and they weren't mentioned in the above post...

I actually think there is a good chance Reinhart plays on Eichel's wing
- Stripes77

Sam was a master on the. dot I really think we should keep him at center he's just way too good

You forgot Dano with 21 in 35 and Jenner with 17 in 31.
- dadeadhead

I purposely left them out because they had a small same size due to games played.

its not going to be this team will be fun to watch

but people saying playoffs etc .. idk lol
- gerbe75pts

if your not optimistic the team can compete for 8th with those moves, stay on the duck wagon

I purposely left them out because they had a small same size due to games played.
- bjm1717

Duby and Skille played in 47 and 45 games.

Sam was a master on the. dot I really think we should keep him at center he's just way too good
- gerbe75pts

he stinks

I stinks
- homiedclown