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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 15 @ 1:29 AM ET
Kane, Eichel, ROR
Possler, Reinhart Bailey
Carrier, Girgens, Karabacek
Deslaurers, Larsson, no clue


Risto, Pysyk
Mccabe, Bogo
Florentino, Martin

Lehner
Ullmark

- homiedclown

I can't imagine the future will be made up of just homegrown players
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 1:29 AM ET
Fasching
- Homer

I think Fasching and Baptiste are 2 prospects they could afford to move

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 1:30 AM ET
I can't imagine the future will be made up of just homegrown players
- Sabresfan-365

agreed, based it on what we have only
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 15 @ 1:30 AM ET
Kane, Eichel, ROR
Possler, Reinhart Bailey
Carrier, Girgens, Karabacek
Deslaurers, Larsson, no clue


Risto, Pysyk
Mccabe, Bogo
Florentino, Martin

Lehner
Ullmark

- homiedclown


You sound like Gerbe with that group
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 1:31 AM ET
Well O'Riley and Moulson will be here for next five years at least
- bluengold12

Moulson has 4 years left, as does ennis
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 15 @ 1:31 AM ET
I think Fasching and Baptiste are 2 prospects they could afford to move
- homiedclown


Im ok with that too.....who knows, Fasching seems like a great kid so Im pulling for him.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 1:32 AM ET
You sound like Gerbe with that group
- Homer

9 of those prospects will be elsewhere in reality



homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 1:33 AM ET
Im ok with that too.....who knows, Fasching seems like a great kid so Im pulling for him.
- Homer

unless they are a top ten pick, I have lost interest in prospects


esp after the last 13 months
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 15 @ 1:35 AM ET
unless they are a top ten pick, I have lost interest in prospects


esp after the last 13 months

- homiedclown


Me too, its time to be good
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 15 @ 1:37 AM ET
Fasching
- Homer



I like his play around the net,
But he'll never make it in the NHL if he doesn't improve his skating...
A LOT
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 15 @ 1:38 AM ET
I like his play around the net,
But he'll never make it in the NHL if he doesn't improve his skating...
A LOT

- jdfitz77


Murray must like him to trade McNabb and 2 nd's. He was the main piece, not DLO, who I like.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 1:40 AM ET
I like his play around the net,
But he'll never make it in the NHL if he doesn't improve his skating...
A LOT

- jdfitz77

mancari bad?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 1:41 AM ET
Me too, its time to be good
- Homer

all that time invested in following these prospects, gone for a few roster players


I am ok with most of the moves though
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 15 @ 1:42 AM ET
all that time invested in following these prospects, gone for a few roster players


I am ok with most of the moves though

- homiedclown


Me too, gotta give to get. Don't love the lehner move.....unless he's good of course
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 15 @ 1:43 AM ET
Murray must like him to trade McNabb and 2 nd's. He was the main piece, not DLO, who I like.
- Homer



I know
I hated that trade when it happened

I'm not really a fan of Murray's take on prospects so far, but I hope to be proven wrong
I didn't like last years draft
Not a big fan of this one either, but we traded away some useful picks, so I guess if give it a pass... As long as Guhle works out
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 15 @ 1:48 AM ET
I know
I hated that trade when it happened

I'm not really a fan of Murray's take on prospects so far, but I hope to be proven wrong
I didn't like last years draft
Not a big fan of this one either, but we traded away some useful picks, so I guess if give it a pass... As long as Guhle works out

- jdfitz77


So did I, because i was a McNabb fan. A very good friend of mine had a lot to do with trade from the Kings standpoint. Loves him.

IDK about the draft and Guhle thing....i read that only 15% of second round picks play meaningful minutes in the NHL, I dont wanna hing Murray and his drafting skills on a 15% chance.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 15 @ 1:51 AM ET
mancari bad?
- homiedclown



No, but Luke Adam bad

I was there on Thursday when thy were doing skating drills
Not only did Fasching look like one of the worst out there, he had a coach skating along side him CONSTANTLY, helping him work on it
It was simple edge work, and he was having a lot of trouble
When they were being timed in straight ahead skating, it appeared he was among the slowest
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 15 @ 1:52 AM ET
No, but Luke Adam bad

I was there on Thursday when thy were doing skating drills
Not only did Fasching look like one of the worst out there, he had a coach skating along side him CONSTANTLY, helping him work on it
It was simple edge work, and he was having a lot of trouble
When they were being timed in straight ahead skating, it appeared he was among the slowest

- jdfitz77


Anderychuk bad?? Oh wait
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 15 @ 1:58 AM ET
So did I, because i was a McNabb fan. A very good friend of mine had a lot to do with trade from the Kings standpoint. Loves him.

IDK about the draft and Guhle thing....i read that only 15% of second round picks play meaningful minutes in the NHL, I dont wanna hing Murray and his drafting skills on a 15% chance.

- Homer



I don't think you can look at it that way
Murray is being touted as a "scout" & "talent evaluator"
Well,
We've got stocked Cupboards...
So while I agree with trading prospects for established young Pros, he's still gotta make smart picks to restack the Cupboards

His decision to trade one of our most promising defensemen, when that was a position we were thin at, was a mistake IMO
Esp since we are deep with forward prospects that are in the same talent range as Fasching
I'll let it go with O'Reilly, but also trading Zadorov clearly created another hole
Right now,
We could have those two guys on defense & we wouldn't have to be taking about signing old guys like Oduya, Martin, etc... Or spending more assets to trade for a guy like Yandle, etc

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 15 @ 2:02 AM ET
Anderychuk bad?? Oh wait
- Homer



Hahaha
U obv picked an exception to the rule
If Fasching scores HALF the goals he did I'd be happy

The Sabres need to hire whoever helped Bailey with his skating to help Fasching
He's improved to the point where he was one of the best, & fastest skaters out there
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 15 @ 2:03 AM ET
I don't think you can look at it that way
Murray is being touted as a "scout" & "talent evaluator"
Well,
We've got stocked Cupboards...
So while I agree with trading prospects for established young Pros, he's still gotta make smart picks to restack the Cupboards

His decision to trade one of our most promising defensemen, when that was a position we were thin at, was a mistake IMO
Esp since we are deep with forward prospects that are in the same talent range as Fasching
I'll let it go with O'Reilly, but also trading Zadorov clearly created another hole
Right now,
We could have those two guys on defense & we wouldn't have to be taking about signing old guys like Oduya, Martin, etc... Or spending more assets to trade for a guy like Yandle, etc

- jdfitz77



Hindsight is 20/20....I love the O'Reilly deal.....Drafting 18 y/o kids after round one is a crap shoot. Its not like the NFL
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 15 @ 2:04 AM ET
Hahaha
U obv picked an exception to the rule
If Fasching scores HALF the goals he did I'd be happy

The Sabres need to hire whoever helped Bailey with his skating to help Fasching
He's improved to the point where he was one of the best, & fastest skaters out there

- jdfitz77


1/4
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 15 @ 2:05 AM ET
Hindsight is 20/20....I love the O'Reilly deal.....Drafting 18 y/o kids after round one is a crap shoot. Its not like the NFL
- Homer



I know,
I do get what you're saying

I like that Murray is going after guys he likes
He just seems to not have much of a plan to replace the defensemen he's given up
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 15 @ 2:06 AM ET
I don't think you can look at it that way
Murray is being touted as a "scout" & "talent evaluator"
Well,
We've got stocked Cupboards...
So while I agree with trading prospects for established young Pros, he's still gotta make smart picks to restack the Cupboards

His decision to trade one of our most promising defensemen, when that was a position we were thin at, was a mistake IMO
Esp since we are deep with forward prospects that are in the same talent range as Fasching
I'll let it go with O'Reilly, but also trading Zadorov clearly created another hole
Right now,
We could have those two guys on defense & we wouldn't have to be taking about signing old guys like Oduya, Martin, etc... Or spending more assets to trade for a guy like Yandle, etc

- jdfitz77

That's really only if you consider zadorov to be a promising potential top pairing guy, which murray obviously didn't. Post trade a lot of hockey people mentioned that he wasn't a big fan of zads.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Jul 15 @ 2:08 AM ET
I know,
I do get what you're saying

I like that Murray is going after guys he likes
He just seems to not have much of a plan to replace the defensemen he's given up

- jdfitz77


Fair enough, but you need 1/2 The D than you need at Forward (12 v. 6) so i think its worth the risk. What he has done is get the best player in the deal (Kane, O'Reilly) and I always have loved that
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