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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 15 @ 1:57 PM ET
Murray is gona get a guy out of left field. Just have that feeling.
- ImThatGuy

I smell a trade
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 15 @ 1:58 PM ET
Murray is gona get a guy out of left field. Just have that feeling.
- ImThatGuy

Hopefully he plays hockey instead of baseball...
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 15 @ 1:59 PM ET
2 out of 3 come with a 1 year deal though
- homiedclown



none of those guys really solves anything for this team, rather just let the guys they've signed fight for those spots in pre season.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 15 @ 2:00 PM ET
Looking at teams with limited cap space and an influx of D the Canucks currently have 8 D men under contract. 2.8 under cap.

Wonder what it would take to get Luca Sbisa from them. 25. Left handed D man. 3.6 million for three years left?

- bluengold12



GREAT NAME
they desperately need help at center...
Larsson + a pick/prospect ?
Obv depends what they think of Larsson
TerryPegula
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 12.02.2010

Jul 15 @ 2:00 PM ET
Reading through the last few pages...seeing everyone talking about their "sources" and how "they called it first!" was funny.

Reminded me of the Family Guy clip with everyone in Congress. 19sec mark.

Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jul 15 @ 2:00 PM ET
Why do I need to base it on what some other team MIGHT have offered?
That's a little too much speculation for me...

But let's say for example, the other offers were 5th round picks, & we have up a 4th to get him...
I don't consider that overpaying necessarily BC I think he's worth more than that
So even if a team offered TWO 1sts for him, I'd still say we overpaid
BC (IMO) a young goalie, with all his question marks (injury, last season struggles, etc) is DEFINITELY NOT worth a 1st... Esp in last year's draft

Btw...
I DONT HATE THE TRADE AT ALL
I'm just saying a 1st was overpayment

- jdfitz77

^^^THIS^^^
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 15 @ 2:03 PM ET
Hopefully he plays hockey instead of baseball...
- jochfr



Giggle giggle
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 15 @ 2:03 PM ET
GREAT NAME
they desperately need help at center...
Larsson + a pick/prospect ?
Obv depends what they think of Larsson

- jdfitz77



I wouldn't give up the pick on it's own let alone larsson. Sbisa is a bottom pairing guy with a bad contract.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 15 @ 2:05 PM ET
Murray is gona get a guy out of left field. Just have that feeling.
- ImThatGuy


been sayin' that since July 2
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 15 @ 2:06 PM ET
Jon Merrill, I believe plays for the Devils?!?!
If that is the case, we can swing a deal to get him, as the Devils need a lot of help everywhere!

- Sabresfan88



Yep, there could be a deal to be made there
ESP if jersey struggles like most think & they decide it's time to bottom out & rebuild
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 15 @ 2:08 PM ET
I wouldn't give up the pick on it's own let alone larsson. Sbisa is a bottom pairing guy with a bad contract.
- Sabresfan-365


I'd rather just have Meszaros. That's how highly I feel about Sbisa.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 15 @ 2:11 PM ET
I'd rather just have Meszaros. That's how highly I feel about Sbisa.
- HonkFortheGoose


Damn. Shots fired.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 15 @ 2:12 PM ET
I'd rather just have Meszaros. That's how highly I feel about Sbisa.
- HonkFortheGoose




TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 15 @ 2:12 PM ET
GREAT NAME
they desperately need help at center...
Larsson + a pick/prospect ?
Obv depends what they think of Larsson

- jdfitz77


How exactly is Luca Sbisa a great name.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 15 @ 2:12 PM ET
I'd rather just have Meszaros. That's how highly I feel about Sbisa.
- HonkFortheGoose


I'm with you there. Id rather tank for one in '16
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 15 @ 2:13 PM ET
How exactly is Luca Sbisa a great name.
- TheSabresTaco


Sounds better backwards

Asibs Acul
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 15 @ 2:14 PM ET
I'm with you there. Id rather tank for one in '16
- Sabresfan-365



Awwww Come on. We sold the tank.

NO MORE TANK !!!
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 15 @ 2:14 PM ET
Yep, there could be a deal to be made there
ESP if jersey struggles like most think & they decide it's time to bottom out & rebuild

- jdfitz77


NJ is in an issue where they have not reached the cap floor. They need celery on any trade they make.

If they are going to re-build. Why would they trade 23 year old John Merrill and not Andy Greene. But trading Greene removes 5MM and they would need 5MM+ back.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 15 @ 2:16 PM ET
I'd rather just have Meszaros. That's how highly I feel about Sbisa.
- HonkFortheGoose


Go get Hamhuis.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 15 @ 2:16 PM ET
I'm with you there. Id rather tank for one in '16
- Sabresfan-365


I just don't see how giving up an asset for a guy that's not very good is a better option than just signing a guy that's not very good. There's FA out there that are probably better than Sbisa to be quite honest.

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 15 @ 2:17 PM ET
You can't move prospects that don't have established value yet. You mention Fasching.. his value is higher than JT's. Everyone else you mentioned are long term projects that would otherwise be trade throw ins at this point. Of course you'd rather trade worthless assets. Everyone would. But buying a new TV with some magic beans and pocket lint doesn't happen.
- TheSabresTaco



Well you just said Fasching has more value, so how is that "magic beans?"
All 5 of those guys are good compatibles for Compher
Carrier is further along in development, prob with more scoring upside
Hurley was picked in the same round, same draft, a few picks apart
Karabacek & Cornel were also 2nd round picks, 1 yet later

Magic beans?
Hardly
Just guys I happen to like less than Compher
But that wouldn't be the same with every GM
You kind of made that point with Fasching already
Sheesh
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 15 @ 2:17 PM ET
I just don't see how giving up an asset for a guy that's not very good is a better option than just signing a guy that's not very good. There's FA out there that are probably better than Sbisa to be quite honest.
- HonkFortheGoose



Yup, would rather just hang on to the assets for now. Best bet is to wait it out till someone gets desperate and lowers the price like the isles did last year.
Sabresfan88
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.01.2011

Jul 15 @ 2:19 PM ET
Yep, there could be a deal to be made there
ESP if jersey struggles like most think & they decide it's time to bottom out & rebuild

- jdfitz77

Yea.
I think the Devils could be close to the bottom of the league this upcoming season.
There will definitely a deal to be had there.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 15 @ 2:19 PM ET
Go get Hamhuis.
- ImThatGuy



NTC i think
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 15 @ 2:20 PM ET
Well you just said Fasching has more value, so how is that "magic beans?"
All 5 of those guys are good compatibles for Compher
Carrier is further along in development, prob with more scoring upside
Hurley was picked in the same round, same draft, a few picks apart
Karabacek & Cornel were also 2nd round picks, 1 yet later

Magic beans?
Hardly
Just guys I happen to like less than Compher
But that wouldn't be the same with every GM
You kind of made that point with Fasching already
Sheesh

- jdfitz77


It's been said that originally Colorado wanted Risto and Bailey and somehow we talked them into Zadorov and Compher. Which way would you have preferred it to be? I'm pretty happy with how it turned out to be quite honest.
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