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Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jul 13 @ 11:31 PM ET
Maybe he had a bad donut moment. Good grief, smart move. I guess at least he has the $$$ to get lawyered up
- Zogg




TSN has a write up on it ...sounds like he might need a good lawyer
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 13 @ 11:35 PM ET


TSN has a write up on it ...sounds like he might need a good lawyer

- Redmile247


It's hilarious...they gave him an absurd contract and were forced to sign his older brother to a 1-way contract and then he crashes into a Tim Hortons haha
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jul 13 @ 11:37 PM ET
It's hilarious...they gave him an absurd contract and were forced to sign his older brother to a 1-way contract and then he crashes into a Tim Hortons haha
- CanuckDon


How funny would it be if they could terminate his contract
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 13 @ 11:41 PM ET
How funny would it be if they could terminate his contract
- Redmile247


CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 13 @ 11:55 PM ET
How funny would it be if they could terminate his contract
- Redmile247


Can they also terminate his brothers contract and then he can return to the Comets?
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jul 14 @ 12:03 AM ET
It's hilarious...they gave him an absurd contract and were forced to sign his older brother to a 1-way contract and then he crashes into a Tim Hortons haha
- CanuckDon


O'Reilly? O'Really? O'poop.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 14 @ 12:07 AM ET
You are probably right and that makes me even more angry. I want my team to suck. And I mean really, really suck. I want a top 3 to 5 pick. And I want it for the next three drafts. Not over the next ten drafts. I want to build my team on a solid foundation of youth, skill, and size. And I want the canucks to have the best possible chance to draft these types of players.
- bloatedmosquito


As do I, I just don't think that's how things will play out. I've been a fan for more than 40 years, I figure I have a little left in me, so I'm prepared to wait.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 14 @ 12:36 AM ET
Winnipeg got in by the skin of their teeth, until their goaltending improves they aren't going to make it this year.

Dallas has a really crappy defense and goaltending and will be where they are again.

LA will have a bounceback season and likely make the playoffs this year

Calgary overachieved like Colorado did and will regress, but only because they lack goaltending.

Minnesota is fading fast, they still have no real offense and the contracts of Suter and Parise are going to drag that franchise down for a long time to come.

Colorado will be better this year, but until they get some veteran help on their D, they'll still flounder a bit.

Edmonton will be better, but how much will depend on if Nurse and Klefbom can become that dominant #1-2 pair on D and if Talbot can play like he did in New York. McDavid makes their offense that much better.

All in all, we'll contend for one of the wildcard spots and either make it or be 9th. We aren't good enough to challenge for a top spot, but we aren't going to be bad enough and the teams around us improve that much to push us to the bottom.

- DariusKnight


Pretty much bang-on however I feel WPG will make it in. They showed us last year they have what it takes regardless of goaltending. They hung right in there with ANA in the PO's with real close one goal games. WPG is in.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 14 @ 12:38 AM ET
As do I, I just don't think that's how things will play out. I've been a fan for more than 40 years, I figure I have a little left in me, so I'm prepared to wait.
- 1970vintage


I just don't understand how people have such a hard time seeing the process owner and management have chosen. How much more clear do they have to be about it? They have acted out what they claimed their plan was. There is no full rebuild yet... Once these contracts are gone we will look around and only see young players mostly and that is only a couple of years away. I wish there was a faster way without walking all over respectable Canucks and showing a complete lack of pride and tanking while they still have decent players. Thats not going to happen. We are not the Sabres or the Yotes yet.

Miller does not stand in the way of this. He will be gone with the rest of the old farts two years from now when the entire focus will be on developing youth and leadership.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 14 @ 12:38 AM ET
I still don't understand the miller signing.

And nobody give me this poop that the veteran players requested it so JB had to find a legit starter. That's horsepoop.

- bloatedmosquito


Miller was brought here to get us in the playoffs and that is exactly what he helped do. This old core was promised another shot at the playoffs and it was obvious Lack wasn't going to be that guy long term so enter Miller. What happens now is what it is.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 14 @ 12:49 AM ET
I just don't understand how people have such a hard time seeing the process owner and management have chosen. How much more clear do they have to be about it? They have acted out what they claimed their plan was. There is no full rebuild yet... Once these contracts are gone we will look around and only see young players mostly and that is only a couple of years away. I wish there was a faster way without walking all over respectable Canucks and showing a complete lack of pride and tanking while they still have decent players. Thats not going to happen. We are not the Sabres or the Yotes yet.

Miller does not stand in the way of this. He will be gone with the rest of the old farts two years from now when the entire focus will be on developing youth and leadership.

- boonerbuck


Yeah, it's pretty clear to me. I never liked the Miller contract, I would rather have signed a cheaper vet to either back up or split time with Lack. I don't think Miller is the reason the Canucks made the playoffs last year, but he certainly helped. But he's not the problem (if there is actually a problem). The team is in a slow transition from one generation to the next. The problem is that the haven't been poopty enough to garner one of these "generational" talents. They're going to need to be a bit lucky with a late 1st round pick (like McCann for example) AND with some late round picks for depth to be competitive long term. There's some nice pieces in the organization no, but nothing special yet.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 14 @ 12:57 AM ET
Miller was brought here to get us in the playoffs and that is exactly what he helped do. This old core was promised another shot at the playoffs and it was obvious Lack wasn't going to be that guy long term so enter Miller. What happens now is what it is.
- LordHumungous


I know you were not posting over the Nonis and Gillis era. I've been posting here since Burke tho. Some funny things happen with the posters here.

When Gillis was putting us in this position with the contracts and trading away picks, some(very few) people were worried. The Gillis defenders(most) denied it was going to be a problem..."Bi-Polars", "Sky is Falling" or "Debbi Downer" like bloated would call me.... Now I see some of those same people in denial that it all got in the way of the rebuilding they are now demanding and it's the new guys fault of course. He signed Miller and screwed them.


The tears will dry up in a couple of seasons when the Sedins and Miller are gone. Then the new tears will be the coach who's ruining our youth and so on.... like when he was getting outplayed in the playoffs they never gave him a chance of making... then betrayed them when Hartley looked like he had decades of NHL experience. Go figure. Who would have thunk Hartley would outplay a rookie...


There will be time to hate the GM's and coaches when they cant hide from their mistakes. It's just too fkn early for that....

SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jul 14 @ 1:09 AM ET
like when he was getting outplayed in the playoffs they never gave him a chance of making... then betrayed them when Hartley looked like he had decades of NHL experience. Go figure. Who would have thunk Hartley would outplay a rookie...
...

- boonerbuck


Hartley absolutely outcoached WD. That was clear. Thats very concerning..... makes you wonder if WD has the tools needed.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 14 @ 1:10 AM ET
Yeah, it's pretty clear to me. I never liked the Miller contract, I would rather have signed a cheaper vet to either back up or split time with Lack. I don't think Miller is the reason the Canucks made the playoffs last year, but he certainly helped. But he's not the problem (if there is actually a problem). The team is in a slow transition from one generation to the next. The problem is that the haven't been poopty enough to garner one of these "generational" talents. They're going to need to be a bit lucky with a late 1st round pick (like McCann for example) AND with some late round picks for depth to be competitive long term. There's some nice pieces in the organization no, but nothing special yet.
- 1970vintage

You need to look at our prospects like Leaf and Oiler fans look at theirs.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 14 @ 1:11 AM ET
Hartley absolutely outcoached WD. That was clear. Thats very concerning..... makes you wonder if WD has the tools needed.
- SMBDragon

And if Benning is smart enough to hire the right coach.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jul 14 @ 1:16 AM ET
Hartley absolutely outcoached WD. That was clear. Thats very concerning..... makes you wonder if WD has the tools needed.
- SMBDragon


He got taken to school. Hopefully he learned something.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 14 @ 1:16 AM ET
Hartley absolutely outcoached WD. That was clear. Thats very concerning..... makes you wonder if WD has the tools needed.
- SMBDragon


Do you have any specific reasons why you feel this way? I saw a us Get beaten by a younger, faster and more physical team. I don't feel like he was outcoached. I was impressed the Canucks won two games. They are old, slow and soft
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 14 @ 1:20 AM ET
And if Benning is smart enough to hire the right coach.
- A_SteamingLombardi


unfortunately the management group has shown a bit of inexperience in their tenure so far. Again, hopefully it's just some hiccups, though, and we'll get to see some positives in the weeks to come.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 14 @ 1:27 AM ET
Hartley absolutely outcoached WD. That was clear. Thats very concerning..... makes you wonder if WD has the tools needed.
- SMBDragon


20 year NHL coach vrs a 0 year NHL coach. Concerning? If you hire a rookie coach, obviously you are not concerned about it. Are you still a believer that they should have hired a coach for a big play off push???? If not, nothing to be concerned about... thats like saying Toewes outplaying Virtanen in his rookie season would be concerning.

It's funny how concerned people were with hiring the coach who had no experience and he comes out of the season with 101 points and home ice advantage. It was fresh seeing our coach rolling 4 lines the way he did. In the future, this will play a big part in our youth developing at a healthy rate.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jul 14 @ 1:31 AM ET
unfortunately the management group has shown a bit of inexperience in their tenure so far. Again, hopefully it's just some hiccups, though, and we'll get to see some positives in the weeks to come.
- Zogg


Good drafting can fix a lot of mistakes. If in a couple of years he has the prospects rolling through then we should be in pretty good shape.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jul 14 @ 1:36 AM ET
20 year NHL coach vrs a 0 year NHL coach. Concerning? If you hire a rookie coach, obviously you are not concerned about it. Are you still a believer that they should have hired a coach for a big play off push???? If not, nothing to be concerned about... thats like saying Toewes outplaying Virtanen in his rookie season would be concerning.

It's funny how concerned people were with hiring the coach who had no experience and he comes out of the season with 101 points and home ice advantage. It was fresh seeing our coach rolling 4 lines the way he did. In the future, this will play a big part in our youth developing at a healthy rate.

- boonerbuck


For sure. He made mistakes, obviously. He was too committed to rolling four lines when the Sedins and Horvat were the only things going. He let Hartley draw them into the after the whistle BS. And so on. Hopefully he'll be a better coach for it.

Can't argue with the job he did during the regular season though.

DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jul 14 @ 1:37 AM ET
Pretty much bang-on however I feel WPG will make it in. They showed us last year they have what it takes regardless of goaltending. They hung right in there with ANA in the PO's with real close one goal games. WPG is in.
- LordHumungous


I don't think they will, they got lucky and they won't have the luxury of being a dark horse. Plus if you think the fan pressure is bad here, Winnipeg is 1000x worse.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 14 @ 1:42 AM ET
As do I, I just don't think that's how things will play out. I've been a fan for more than 40 years, I figure I have a little left in me, so I'm prepared to wait.
- 1970vintage

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 14 @ 1:50 AM ET
You need to look at our prospects like Leaf and Oiler fans look at theirs.
- A_SteamingLombardi


What do I take for that? Is mushrooms enough, or do I need something stronger?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 14 @ 1:51 AM ET
As do I, I just don't think that's how things will play out. I've been a fan for more than 40 years, I figure I have a little left in me, so I'm prepared to wait.
- 1970vintage

So let me get this right, after 40 years you are prepared to wait?
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