Manayunk Mike ‏@MikeManayunk 2m2 minutes ago

Byfuglien to #Flyers per DM from Eklund. 🔥🔥🔥 #HiHaters

Morin, BSchenn and 2016 second

And here we go.

Does DM mean "direct message"?
- MBFlyerfan

Disagree on Berube. It's one thing when you have a top 6 and players like a Schultz or CC that clearly were signed to perform 6-8 roles. It's quite another when you are simply bouncing guys back and forth from the press box to the ice, and seemingly (based on player's quotes at the time) not giving them the right level of feedback as to why, or more importantly, what they need to do.

AMac, Schenn and MDZ all suffered in my mind because of how they were handled.

Manning for me is a good role player to have as that 7th guy to fill in the odd game here or there when one of the top 6 players goes down. Sucks for him, but in reality he doesn't have the upside of the top 5 prospects and I want them playing.
- TheGreat28

How did Schultz work out? Did he perform at a higher level than a 6-8 depth defenseman? Should Berube have just ignored that, and said, hey, you were clearly signed to be a 6-8 depth defenseman, so you're going to sit out some and play less minutes? Even thought the level of your play, suggests otherwise?
Schenn was inconsistent all year and was making repeated mistakes. Mistakes that he should've corrected by now, with the amount of time he's been in the league. With the Flyers having 7 legitimate top 6 defenseman, his time out of the lineup was completely justified.
MacDonald, sat out what, 3 games? Not a big deal. Berube wanted him to use his skating more. I seriously doubt that his game suffered by sitting out 3 games.
I think the Del Zotto scratching went on a little too long, but there is no doubt in my view that Berube made him a better player by correcting some of the on ice errors he was making. Del Zotto went from being a player that two teams gave up on, to resurrecting his career under Berube. So how exactly did he suffer?

I want the young players playing also, but not before they're ready.

Yeah, but I'm sure it's bullpoop.
- PhillySportsGuy

So do I, but we need something to get away from this basketball talk.

Those picks have so many stipulations with them.

I know they have the cap space but I wonder what would entice a premium superstar to sign here. As the years keep coming all teams will have money moving forward. The cap will keep going up. Look at what mid level guys got this year in FA.
- J35Bacher

All of the picks are likely to transfer this year. The Kings trade also gave them tremendous odds to land a top 3 pick and they'll likely have the highest odds of getting the #1 pick

I can't explain this anymore clearly to you than I have. Sixers aren't going to keep Okafor, Noel and Embiid if all three prove to be healthy and good. They can always move one for a PG or whatever position they need.

All they are doing now and next year is evaluating all three. Why make a rash decision now when they are all under team control for 3-5 more years?
- PhillySportsGuy

Clearly, you're either not understanding my point, or just ignoring it. I've repeatedly said that they'll likely have to make a trade to tweak the forward mix. Nor does that suggest that it has to be done now! So since we're in agreement with that, there really is no need for you to explain it more clearly. I've been saying that for weeks. Did you miss it?

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Thank God

Actually, I don't know that this is true. They could easily rotate the three between the PF and C positions playing 30 minutes a game. It will likely depend on the return that you'd get.

Imagine if Okafor and Embiid become true superstars and Noel is an all-star caliber DPOY candidate. You'd need back an all-star caliber (or higher) wing or PG. PG are relatively easy to come buy, whereas bigs are much harder to find. I could see them keeping all three for a couple of years until the day of reckoning comes when you have to resign all three.
- TheGreat28

If they all develop into all stars (very unlikely) then it won't really be a problem moving one is what I'm saying. My point is that moving one now to try and put together a future starting 5 would be moronic.

Clearly, you're either not understanding my point, or just ignoring it. I've repeatedly said that they'll likely have to make a trade to tweak the forward mix. Nor does that suggest that it has to be done now! So since we're in agreement with that, there really is no need for you to explain it more clearly. I've been saying that for weeks. Did you miss it?
- MJL

You say it like it's a detriment though

How? Holiday, Hawes, Turner, Young is not a good team. They had no cap space to sign anyone meaningful and they owed the Magic/Heat several picks due to earlier trades.

Part of the reason Hinkie tanked was because the picks were protected. If he finished outside the top 8, those picks would have gone to the Magic one year and the Heat another. Instead, they just had to transfer 2nd rounders.

They were also a 30 win team when he got here.
- PhillySportsGuy

Not the only players they got rid of. And they still would've had other draft picks. They didn't have to tank to become a 4-6 playoff team. That's the point. So the tank better result in much more than that, or it's a failure.

You say it like it's a detriment though
- PhillySportsGuy

Not a detriment, it goes back to the no guarantees part. Just because they drafted those 3 players, doesn't mean it's going to work out. That's the possibility that is ignored.

If they all develop into all stars (very unlikely) then it won't really be a problem moving one is what I'm saying. My point is that moving one now to try and put together a future starting 5 would be moronic.
- PhillySportsGuy

OK, now I completely agree. Thanks for explaining!

Not the only players they got rid of. And they still would've had other draft picks. They didn't have to tank to become a 4-6 playoff team. That's the point. So the tank better result in much more than that, or it's a failure.
- MJL

What other players and what other picks?

What other players and what other picks?
- PhillySportsGuy

Michael Carter Williams for one.

Michael Carter Williams for one.
- MJL

So the Sixers would be a playoff team with MCW?

So the Sixers would be a playoff team with MCW?
- PhillySportsGuy

Could they build a 4-6 playoff team with Michael Carter Williams as their point guard?

Could they build a 4-6 playoff team with Michael Carter Williams as their point guard?
- MJL

Yeah but you'd have to work around his poor shooting. He's not one of the 20 best PGs in the league and may never be

Yeah but you'd have to work around his poor shooting. He's not one of the 20 best PGs in the league and may never be
- PhillySportsGuy

They have to do that now with Noel. And with Okafor's foul shooting. Bottom line was he was a good player as a young guy. It goes back to looking at Hinkie's plan resulting in at least a 4-6 playoff team. They didn't have to tank to accomplish that. What's the bechmark for success with the plan?

sigh