Pains me to say it but Hansen. Hansen can work all four lines if need be. Higgins is a bonafide 3rd liner that is good on the PK.
- LordHumungous

Hansen for the forecheck alone.

Friedman is a whinging little biatch...

i disliked that guy every since he lost his mind during the heritage classic. Nux fans were booing torts and anyone who didn't let Luo start the game and that idiot starts shooting his mouth off about how the fans were booing Eddie... what an arsehole... cbc and those idiots there deliberately bad mouthing the people of vancity and b.c. more generally with those kinds of stupid/ ignorant comments...
- kaptaan

In my opinion he is the top hockey guy going. Knowledgeable, definitely a legit insider, bright and he doesn't let his emotions cloud his judgement....
Then there are those little Bi*ches Healey and Stock

In my opinion he is the top hockey guy going. Knowledgeable, definitely a legit insider, bright and he doesn't let his emotions cloud his judgement....
Then there are those little Bi*ches Healey and Stock
- CanuckDon

I like Freidman too. Most pundits take the Fox News approach. Everything is black or white and usually worth getting outraged or defensive over. I hate that kind of commentary, no matter what they're commenting on. Freidman doesn't play that game. Plus he knows his shlt.

He and Ferraro are probably my favourite guys to listen to talk hockey.

I like Freidman too. Most pundits take the Fox News approach. Everything is black or white and usually worth getting outraged or defensive over. I hate that kind of commentary, no matter what they're commenting on. Freidman doesn't play that game. Plus he knows his shlt.

He and Ferraro are probably my favourite guys to listen to talk hockey.
- CubanBuffet

I also like Valk....he is huge homer but he is pretty knowledgeable I had a day pint with him once in whistler. If you drink during he day you are ok in my books

Hansen for the forecheck alone.
- CubanBuffet

yup

I've never found that. I'm pretty sure that he disagrees with nearly everything I post, and he'll tell me so, but he's never even come close to making it personal.
- CubanBuffet

Everyone here shares a common thread that pulls us together, which is that we want the Canucks to win a cup; basically, our team to be the best.

This place is full of people that share or oppose certain philosophies about how we should get there, and that's exactly what makes this place a cool place to talk about it.

There are posters here that I've argued with, but that doesn't mean I don't respect them. Hell, even a philosophy you don't agree with is worth reading when it is well thought out.

I remember getting into it with RUGDNIT about Clendenning, but, outside that argument when you take into account the totality of what he brought and continues to bring this board, the dudes pretty chill.

I also like Valk....he is huge homer but he is pretty knowledgeable I had a day pint with him once in whistler. If you drink during he day you are ok in my books
- CanuckDon

I like Valk. I didn't consider him but he's good too.

Here's a question:

If you could only keep one (or maybe I should say if you had to keep one), would you take Higgins or Hansen?
- CubanBuffet

Higgins for sure.

Hansen has that speed this team sorely lacks, plus he isn't afraid to throw the body. I'm not saying Higgins is afraid, but Hansen is better than him in that respect.

I like Freidman too. Most pundits take the Fox News approach. Everything is black or white and usually worth getting outraged or defensive over. I hate that kind of commentary, no matter what they're commenting on. Freidman doesn't play that game. Plus he knows his shlt.

He and Ferraro are probably my favourite guys to listen to talk hockey.
- CubanBuffet

I like Ferraro too. He might not be an insider like Freidman, but he always brings something to the conversation. You could say he is a hockey philosopher.

Higgins for sure.

Hansen has that speed this team sorely lacks, plus he isn't afraid to throw the body. I'm not saying Higgins is afraid, but Hansen is better than him in that respect.
- Gullzy

I'm confused. You picked Higgins and then praised Hansen?

I like Ferraro too. He might not be an insider like Freidman, but he always brings something to the conversation. You could say he is a hockey philosopher.
- Gullzy

He's a different kind of Insider. He actually played the game at a high level. He wasn't just a face punching journeyman.

Because he is the only one doing the told you so routine.....
- belcherbd

BULLLLLLLL$HIIIIT!

I pulled that routine after they flamed out in round one. Just like I said they would last summer.

Rebuild the damn D-Core already!

Anyone still whining about Bieksa needs a rewind to how the Canucks did back in January / February with him AND Edler out of the lineup.

Nuff said.

He's a different kind of Insider. He actually played the game at a high level. He wasn't just a face punching journeyman.
- CubanBuffet

Some of you guys might be too young to remember, but he was a beauty when he played. A lot of character and heart in that guy. Not quite Trottier level, but he was a damn good hockey player despite his size.

Higgins has a Gillis contract, so he's got some kind of movement protection. Plus he's still got more than enough game to play in the NHL, just not top six minutes. He doesn't make crazy money. Good on the PK, etc.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded before the season starts, particularly if a couple of the kids look good at the Young Stars.
- CubanBuffet

He has a NTC , not NMC, he could be sent down if they want to clear a spot.


I just find Higgins as another one of those safe players with little personality. Great guy for a middle of the league team.

He doesn't have the skill to be a high end player and doesn't have the grit to instigate a bottom 6 role. He is a guy that will go out get his 13- 18 goals , fill holes , and does what is asked.

I would much rather a guy like Shaw , Abdekeder , Clutterbuck , even a guy like Ferkland would be more entertaining. Higgins usually also fades in the second half of the year.

Everyone here shares a common thread that pulls us together, which is that we want the Canucks to win a cup; basically, our team to be the best.

This place is full of people that share or oppose certain philosophies about how we should get there, and that's exactly what makes this place a cool place to talk about it.

There are posters here that I've argued with, but that doesn't mean I don't respect them. Hell, even a philosophy you don't agree with is worth reading when it is well thought out.

I remember getting into it with RUGDNIT about Clendenning, but, outside that argument when you take into account the totality of what he brought and continues to bring this board, the dudes pretty chill.
- Gullzy

I never took it personally. I been called far worse

It's all good boys. We all want to see this team win. The core of us here are a good lot. I enjoy the banter. We care and we work through it.

Cheers!

He has a NTC , not NMC, he. Could be sent down if they want to clear a spot.


I just find Higgins as another one of those safe players with little personality. Great guy for a middle of the pack team.

He doesn't have the skill to be a high end player and doesn't have the grit to instigate a bottom 6 role. He is a guy that will go out get his 13- 18 goals , fill holes , and does what is asked.

I would much rather a guy like Shaw , Abdekeder , Clutterbuck , even a guy like Ferkland would be more entertaining. Higgins usually also fades in the second half of the year.
- VANTEL

Yup. Coaches love safe. Clutterbuck is just damn annoying, but the kind of guy that is loved in the room. Shaw is a beauty too.

I would take Hansen over Higgins, but you would just love to see a little more finish with the guy ya' know?

He has a NTC , not NMC, he could be sent down if they want to clear a spot.


I just find Higgins as another one of those safe players with little personality. Great guy for a middle of the league team.

He doesn't have the skill to be a high end player and doesn't have the grit to instigate a bottom 6 role. He is a guy that will go out get his 13- 18 goals , fill holes , and does what is asked.

I would much rather a guy like Shaw , Abdekeder , Clutterbuck , even a guy like Ferkland would be more entertaining. Higgins usually also fades in the second half of the year.
- VANTEL

You understand that the team would only get 1m in cap relief right? That would mean that 1.5m would be dead cap space (almost twice luongo's hit).

There are tons of guys on here I have debated with and never make it personal. I only make it personal when someone fires the first shot. If it ever gets personal it is because the other person made it personal .

I enjoy the talks with most on here.
- VANTEL

I don't comment much but read everyday and I have seen you debate and quite enjoy the reads usually and I don't think I've ever seen you make it personal .(except surrey oiler fan maybe )

You understand that the team would only get 1m in cap relief right? That would mean that 1.5m would be dead cap space (almost twice luongo's hit).
- RealityChecker

I understand that , but if he was replaced by a youngster, making 600k to 1.5 k then it is a non issue. The point is freeing up a spot and giving a kid like Grenier or Gaunce a shot at 3 Rd line

I know though that a player sent down on waivers is 900k max savings but Gaunce Jensen or Grenier filling that spot is still 200 K cheaper. Cap space is not the issue. Roster space is the issue

I don't comment much but read everyday and I have seen you debate and quite enjoy the reads usually and I don't think I've ever seen you make it personal .(except surrey oiler fan maybe )
- Cletuswest

Don't even know him or talked to him. I have seen others talk to him

I understand that , but if he was replaced by a youngster, making 600k to 1.5 k then it is a non issue. The point is freeing up a spot and giving a kid like Grenier or Gaunce a shot at 3 Rd line

I know though that a player sent down on waivers is 900k max savings but Gaunce or Grenier filling that spot is still 200 K cheaper. Cap space is not the issue. Roster space is the issue
- VANTEL

It's unrealistic. You may think it's a possibility but we will have to agree to disagree.

I understand that , but if he was replaced by a youngster, making 600k to 1.5 k then it is a non issue. The point is freeing up a spot and giving a kid like Grenier or Gaunce a shot at 3 Rd line

I know though that a player sent down on waivers is 900k max savings but Gaunce or Grenier filling that spot is still 200 K cheaper. Cap space is not the issue. Roster space is the issue
- VANTEL

Then you trade him for draft picks. A seventh round pick is better than having dead cap space and the negativity that comes with burying a guy in the minors who is still more than capable of playing in the NHL.

We should be hoarding draft picks and cap space right now.

It's unrealistic. You may think it's a possibility but we will have to agree to disagree.
- RealityChecker

I know it is unlikely , but Benning said " If one of the kids are ready we will find a spot" The obvious answer would be 3 Rd line LW which is owned by Higgins.

Be honest would you rather see another year of Higgins or would you rather give Grenier Virtanen Gaunce or Jensen a shot at it?

I will be truthful , I can't think of one Chris Higgins hi lite in the second half of last year or in the playoffs

Then you trade him for draft picks. A seventh round pick is better than having dead cap space and the negativity that comes with burying a guy in the minors who is still more than capable of playing in the NHL.

We should be hoarding draft picks and cap space right now.
- CubanBuffet

I wasn't trying to punish him by sending him down but rather extend him in developing the kids on the farm. Give them insight , and show them what they need to know. I don't think too many teams will be searching out Higgins as a must have for their team. I would not be surprised if this is his final NHL contract

I know it is unlikely , but Benning said " If one of the kids are ready we will find a spot" The obvious answer would be 3 Rd line LW which is owned by Higgins.

Be honest would you rather see another year of Higgins or would you rather give Grenier Virtanen Gaunce or Jensen a shot at it?

I will be truthful , I can't think of one Chris Higgins hi lite in the second half of last year or in the playoffs
- VANTEL

I wouldn't waive vets like you clearly would.

The team is clearly not going to tank on purpose. If you think that a rookie would have more of a positive impact in the short term (meaning next season) you would be mistaken.

Even Horvat had to start on the 4th line and earn the increase in minutes.

To slot a rookie (or Jensen) immediately onto the 3rd line is counterintuitive to how Willie has coached and to what JB/TL have said.