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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:01 PM ET
There is the Sergio I know!!!
- ImThatGuy

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:04 PM ET
this guy needs to be in the 2016 dead pool, if he makes it past 2015

ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jul 20 @ 12:08 PM ET



greatest things I have seen in golf

1. jack's last master win
2. watson's chip in to win the open at pebble on 17
3. pavin's approach on 18 to win the us open

- homiedclown


Rooting for greatness is not limited to winning.

See: Buffalo Sabres the past two seasons.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:15 PM ET
this guy needs to be in the 2016 dead pool, if he makes it past 2015


- homiedclown


Ugh...that sad sack is gonna live forever...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:26 PM ET
Ugh...that sad sack is gonna live forever...
- stashu

on our dime
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 20 @ 12:31 PM ET
on our dime
- homiedclown


Don't forget Ed, a more "hometown" suck on the community as well, and likely to live forever
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 20 @ 12:52 PM ET
OH MY!!!
ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jul 20 @ 1:09 PM ET
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 20 @ 1:12 PM ET
any word on Franson?
I thought I heard there were rumors that he was meeting with the Sabres a few days ago...
But I haven't heard anything since
burner087
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 1:21 PM ET

- homiedclown



Awesome.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 20 @ 1:31 PM ET
Since it's oh so lively in here...what are predictions for Girgensons next contract?

I imagine he'll be foligno-like and get basically a doubling. Foligno went from around 825k to almost 1.9M in his last contract. Will Girgensons follow suit and go from his almost 900k to right around (likely at/slightly above) 2M?

Not a big deal since O'Reilly's bump is "only" 1.5M per and the Sabres have players like McGinn (almost 3M), Legwand (3M) and Foligno himself ending their contracts (plus the legendary Weber's 1.6M+)
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 1:40 PM ET
Since it's oh so lively in here...what are predictions for Girgensons next contract?

I imagine he'll be foligno-like and get basically a doubling. Foligno went from around 825k to almost 1.9M in his last contract. Will Girgensons follow suit and go from his almost 900k to right around (likely at/slightly above) 2M?

Not a big deal since O'Reilly's bump is "only" 1.5M per and the Sabres have players like McGinn (almost 3M), Legwand (3M) and Foligno himself ending their contracts (plus the legendary Weber's 1.6M+)

- stashu

bridge deal

3 years 7.5 mil total

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 20 @ 1:41 PM ET
any word on Franson?
I thought I heard there were rumors that he was meeting with the Sabres a few days ago...
But I haven't heard anything since

- jdfitz77



wasn't a real rumour, some guy on twitter claimed to see him at canalside.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 20 @ 1:44 PM ET
bridge deal

3 years 7.5 mil total

- homiedclown


My biggest hope is they wait til the end of the calendar year before inking something. Get another 2 1/2 months worth of play from him and see if they want to commit long term now to avoid the glut of big names that need contracts in 3 years.

If they go long term, I obviously don't think he only gets a Foligno-like raise, but more like a 5/22M or 6/27M type deal (the 5 year more likely)
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 20 @ 1:44 PM ET
16-under would have won it.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Jul 20 @ 1:44 PM ET
wasn't a real rumour, some guy on twitter claimed to see him at canalside.
- Sabresfan-365


Junior says CaptPantalones posted something elsewhere about it
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 20 @ 1:52 PM ET
7 Under at least. I don't think 16 under wins it!
- ImThatGuy

It sure would have.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 20 @ 1:55 PM ET
My biggest hope is they wait til the end of the calendar year before inking something. Get another 2 1/2 months worth of play from him and see if they want to commit long term now to avoid the glut of big names that need contracts in 3 years.

If they go long term, I obviously don't think he only gets a Foligno-like raise, but more like a 5/22M or 6/27M type deal (the 5 year more likely)

- stashu


Personally I'd like to see them get him and Risto signed to something before this season even starts.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 20 @ 1:56 PM ET
My biggest hope is they wait til the end of the calendar year before inking something. Get another 2 1/2 months worth of play from him and see if they want to commit long term now to avoid the glut of big names that need contracts in 3 years.

If they go long term, I obviously don't think he only gets a Foligno-like raise, but more like a 5/22M or 6/27M type deal (the 5 year more likely)

- stashu


8 years 32-36 mil.

Takes him to 30.
Allows him to still have a big payday
Shows the commitment to wanting to keep their guys
Shows to potential UFA's the commitment to winning.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 1:57 PM ET
16-under would have won it.
- buffalofan19

double bogey cost jordan
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 20 @ 2:12 PM ET
double bogey cost jordan
- homiedclown



Maybe, but if he pars or even bogeys 8, who's to say that he still has back to back putts on 9 and 10? Missing the par put on 17 is what cost him. He came unglued on 18 after that.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:12 PM ET
8 years 32-36 mil.

Takes him to 30.
Allows him to still have a big payday
Shows the commitment to wanting to keep their guys
Shows to potential UFA's the commitment to winning.

- dadeadhead

I'd be happy for 8 years at 4 mil per
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 20 @ 2:29 PM ET
8 years 32-36 mil.

Takes him to 30.
Allows him to still have a big payday
Shows the commitment to wanting to keep their guys
Shows to potential UFA's the commitment to winning.

- dadeadhead



On that last one, if they're right on Risto/Girgs, having them at 4-4.5 mil cap hits makes it easier for them to overpay for FA's.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:33 PM ET
On that last one, if they're right on Risto/Girgs, having them at 4-4.5 mil cap hits makes it easier for them to overpay for FA's.
- Sabresfan-365


I don't know why, but I think Risto would want something a bit higher if he's signing that long term. There's no real reason I think that, it's just a gut feeling I have.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jul 20 @ 2:39 PM ET
I don't know why, but I think Risto would want something a bit higher if he's signing that long term. There's no real reason I think that, it's just a gut feeling I have.
- HonkFortheGoose


It's possible he asks for a contract like what Myers got after seeing O'Reilly get big money.

I was thinking of Klingberg as a comparable. If Risto has a big year I think he'll get a similar deal.
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