I'm thinking some of these other groups look at the league and just know that there will be one or more teams relocating soon... probably save a couple of hundred million in fees going that route.
- Tomahawk

Didn't the NHL throw out some crazy insane relocation fee when Jim Balsillie wanted to buy/move the Coyotes? I forget, but I think it was well over $100M.

Good way to weed out those who aren't serious.
- MBFlyerfan

So companies should just be cool donating $2M to the NHL for the chance to own a franchise, a selection process that they have no input/control over?

I'm thinking some of these other groups look at the league and just know that there will be one or more teams relocating soon... probably save a couple of hundred million in fees going that route.
- Tomahawk

Yep. There's enough ailing teams that there is poaching potential

Didn't the NHL throw out some crazy insane relocation fee when Jim Balsillie wanted to buy/move the Coyotes? I forget, but I think it was well over $100M.
- jmatchett383

Something like that. Isn't the franchise fee close to $500 million now?


http://www.tsn.ca/owners-...ipse-450-million-1.188094

Remember that time it was so empty and so quiet you could audibly hear a Flyers fan say "Its another capacity crowd here at the Prudential Center." on the TV feed?

Good times.

So companies should just be cool donating $2M to the NHL for the chance to own a franchise, a selection process that they have no input/control over?
- jmatchett383

The NHL already knows where the teams are going. This is all a formality.

Personally, I would rather have contraction.

I was gonna come up to Ventnor on Saturday, but got done work late & felt like garbage
- Jsaquella

No prob. we are playing there again on August 1st

Well, since BiggE is pushing his wares.

My band plays every Friday 5-8 at Tom and Jerry's on Macdade Blvd in Ridley Township....just off 476 exit 1.




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- MBFlyerfan



I'm determined to get up there one of these days and check you guys out
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With all the musicians on this board there is a great opportunity for some good discussions in person at a gig hoisting your adult beverage of choice

relocate to anywhere that wants a team not Philadelphia
- ComeGetTrolled

i guess the "they should just relocate to your mom's bedroom since most of the team hangs out there anyway" jokes are just too easy?

Didn't the NHL throw out some crazy insane relocation fee when Jim Balsillie wanted to buy/move the Coyotes? I forget, but I think it was well over $100M.
- jmatchett383

Well start with the 300M lost at that time by the owner which was how many years ago, the money lost since then and the issue with Glendale.

Bettman wasn't going to let Mr Blackberry move the Yotes for any price
It was too much of an ego thing for his failed market.
Yeah the team in Phoenix helped clinch the 20 years late TV deal

Bill still no word on Michael Parks? with any team not just the flyers.

Well, since BiggE is pushing his wares.

My band plays every Friday 5-8 at Tom and Jerry's on Macdade Blvd in Ridley Township....just off 476 exit 1.





- MBFlyerfan

I actually find myself in there occasionally.

/straight outta Delco

The NHL already knows where the teams are going. This is all a formality.
- MBFlyerfan

Yeah, I think the other potential applicants realized that too... LV seems like a lock... only thing that can possibly derail QC is the exchange rate.

Can't blame the others for not wanting to tie up $10M, and flush $2M of it down the toilet, for some minor publicity.

Personally, I would rather have contraction
- MBFlyerfan

Really? I'd prefer mass relocation to better markets... I think the overall skill level of the players is good right now and getting better with every successive draft.

Really? I'd prefer mass relocation to better markets... I think the overall skill level of the players is good right now and getting better with every successive draft.
- Tomahawk

Not to mention the potential influx of talent that could come if the KHL ceased to exist.

I think Alt has been the true forgotten potential NHL defenceman in the Flyers system.
- flyler

It would be good for him to show something this season, and hopefully he gets some NHL games under his belt where he's a solid performer, then maybe he can be traded to a team who needs some low-end defensive depth.

Don't ask me, because I had it wrong.
- MJL

GMs and their crazy wheelin and dealin'.

Well, since BiggE is pushing his wares.

My band plays every Friday 5-8 at Tom and Jerry's on Macdade Blvd in Ridley Township....just off 476 exit 1.





- MBFlyerfan

I'm just up the Blue Route from there (and I have lots of family in that area). I assume your band plays some kind of European Death Metal?

The NHL already knows where the teams are going. This is all a formality.

Personally, I would rather have contraction.
- MBFlyerfan

As would I, but the NHLPA would never allow that.

Whether or not they can afford it isn't the point. It's $2M you'll never see again if you're not one of the chosen few.
- jmatchett383

Especially if you're in Seattle and don't have an arena agreement in hand.

So who moves to the WEST if Quebec and Las Vegas get teams. I heard it could be Carolina. They could build rivalries with Dallas and Nashville. Detroit is not an option they said.

Didn't the NHL throw out some crazy insane relocation fee when Jim Balsillie wanted to buy/move the Coyotes? I forget, but I think it was well over $100M.
- jmatchett383

IIRC it was $250M because at the time that was what they thought they could get for an expansion team in T.O.

Speculation out of Toronto is that an expansion franchise in Markham could cost the buyer upwards of $1B with the expansion fee and the fee the NHL will have to negotiate with the Leafs. That's why no bidders came forth this round.

IIRC it was $250M because at the time that was what they thought they could get for an expansion team in T.O.

Speculation out of Toronto is that an expansion franchise in Markham could cost the buyer upwards of $1B with the expansion fee and the fee the NHL will have to negotiate with the Leafs. That's why no bidders came forth this round.
- mayorofangrytown

Wasn't some of it because they also hated Basillie too? He kind of tried to buy the Coyotes some back door way. Funny thing is that if a guy like that wanted to really own a team you know he would have really cared for that team and made it successful

Bill still no word on Michael Parks? with any team not just the flyers.
- rinaldo

He can become a UFA next month. His best bet may be an AHL contract if no one is interested in an NHL deal.

I'm just up the Blue Route from there (and I have lots of family in that area). I assume your band plays some kind of European Death Metal?
- wolfhounds

My guess is that they're a cross between Celtic Frost and Hanson.

/i keed, i keed

Wasn't some of it because they also hated Basillie too? He kind of tried to buy the Coyotes some back door way. Funny thing is that if a guy like that wanted to really own a team you know he would have really cared for that team and made it successful
- J35Bacher

He made it well known that he intended to buy them and move them, which pissed off Bettman (the owners). So they created some crazy relocation fee while he was negotiating. Basically, he tried to bully his way to ownership with money and the NHL was against it. I think he realizes that you cannot make that team successful. There will never be a die-hard fan base in some areas. That's why a whopping 200 people showed up at the "Save the Thrashers" rally.