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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 22 @ 5:14 PM ET
Henrik and Daniel may walk into training camp next year look across the room and see Sbisa Weber Clendenning Corrado and Bartowski as 5 of the top 6 D , look at each other , turn around and say "Oh hell no ".
- VANTEL


Then Vrbata and Hamhuis look at each other...

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 22 @ 5:15 PM ET
Contracts can't be reworked, it's 14 mil for the next 3 years.
- A_SteamingLombardi

If only this was the NFL
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 22 @ 5:19 PM ET
This is very possible.
- LordHumungous

Im serious, if I am Nashville , about a month before trade deadline I make a serious offer for them . With their goaltending and D , the would be top 4 favourites
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 5:20 PM ET
If only this was the NFL
- Nucker101


It's those guaranteed contracts that kill you
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 22 @ 5:22 PM ET
Im serious, I i am Nashville about a month before trade deadline I make a serious offer for them . With their goaltending and D , the would be top 4 favourites
- VANTEL


Depends on who they give up but yeah I'd probably rank them up there with CHI if they had Forsberg, Henrik, Daniel, Ribeiro, Neal, Wilson, Smith, Fiala up front with Weber, Josi, Jones, Ellis, Ekholm on D plus Rinne in net. (frank) that's sexy.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jul 22 @ 5:23 PM ET
Ok this is kinda boring topic id say. So side topic..... are you happy with our coaching staff and what would you do to change it if youre not?

I'll weigh in my 2 cents ( now days maybe it should be changed to a twoonie since 2 cents isnt worth anything anymore and penny isnt even official currency )

I think changes are needed. I was concerned all year with defense. Seems no one has taken time to relay a plan to the D. You see this with the uncoordination and disorganization constantly game to game. Doug lidster runs the defense so id dump his ass and bring in a good defensively sound coach. Dont let willie chose, his last choice was a bust.

Glen gulutzen. I think hes done a great job with special teams with us being ranked #3 I believe in PK. Pp improved too. He survived the bench clearing for a reason. Id like to see him have a bigger role with the team. Like how he took the bull by the horns in torts year by saying lets show you guys how to forecheck as it wasnt happeneing and torts never ran a single practice.

For this id suggest randy carlyle, he was a great D when he played and has won a cup as head coach. Sure hed be an assistant coach but I like this as he can focus on streamlining D without wearing down the team with rants. I also like it since he has experience at nhl level and he can tweak a team, something willie got schooled on in the playoffs by hartley. So he could have a bigger role come playoff time. Not sure if theres other great names out there for it but this knes a slam dumk. You get abgreat teacher of D and excellent strategist, but limit it to assistant so his voice doesnt wear out the team. Come playoffs let him losewhen needed.

Sure some of you will bring up toronto, but hey he had that train wreck of a team performing better than anyone else could. And well, its toronto. Plus its a more limited role.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 22 @ 5:25 PM ET
Depends on who they give up but yeah I'd probably rank them up there with CHI if they had Forsberg, Henrik, Daniel, Ribeiro, Neal, Wilson, Smith, Fiala up front with Weber, Josi, Jones, Ellis, Ekholm on D plus Rinne in net. (frank) that's sexy.
- Nucker101



If I was Canucks I would offer Sedins Edler for Jones Fiala Wilson . I would retain money if I needed to
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 5:33 PM ET
If I was Canucks I would offer Sedins Edler for Jones Fiala Wilson . I would retain money if I needed to
- VANTEL


Wilson is a perennial underachiever, no thanks.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 22 @ 5:37 PM ET
Wilson is a perennial underachiever, no thanks.
- Zogg

20 g 22 a 42 pts . He got two in a game against Canucks last year.
Cletuswest
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.19.2014

Jul 22 @ 5:42 PM ET
Contracts can't be reworked, it's 14 mil for the next 3 years.
- A_SteamingLombardi


They can get extension which could bring down cap
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 5:42 PM ET
20 g 22 a 42 pts . He got two in a game against Canucks last year.
- VANTEL


he had an ok season but he's been on the 'verge of breaking out' now for years. Maybe it will come this year, maybe it won't. I guess by that point in time a few years from now he could be good but not at this stage (despite him scoring 20 he's just nowhere near consistent enough and very streaky). Prior to last year he had zero seasons where he scored more than 35 points (this, going back to 2009) but he had all the chances to be a top 6 during that time nonetheless
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jul 22 @ 5:47 PM ET
he had an ok season but he's been on the 'verge of breaking out' now for years. Maybe it will come this year, maybe it won't. I guess by that point in time a few years from now he could be good but not at this stage (despite him scoring 20 he's just nowhere near consistent enough and very streaky). Prior to last year he had zero seasons where he scored more than 35 points (this, going back to 2009) but he had all the chances to be a top 6 during that time nonetheless
- Zogg


Depending on his arbitration hearing, he could possibly be a cap dump anyway
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 22 @ 5:53 PM ET
he had an ok season but he's been on the 'verge of breaking out' now for years. Maybe it will come this year, maybe it won't. I guess by that point in time a few years from now he could be good but not at this stage (despite him scoring 20 he's just nowhere near consistent enough and very streaky). Prior to last year he had zero seasons where he scored more than 35 points (this, going back to 2009) but he had all the chances to be a top 6 during that time nonetheless
- Zogg

I think 20 goals 42 pts is better than ok . It doesn't sound like underachieving at all. If any Canucks got 20 goals 42 pts I would consider them achieving also.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 22 @ 6:01 PM ET
Ok this is kinda boring topic id say. So side topic..... are you happy with our coaching staff and what would you do to change it if youre not?

I'll weigh in my 2 cents ( now days maybe it should be changed to a twoonie since 2 cents isnt worth anything anymore and penny isnt even official currency )

I think changes are needed. I was concerned all year with defense. Seems no one has taken time to relay a plan to the D. You see this with the uncoordination and disorganization constantly game to game. Doug lidster runs the defense so id dump his ass and bring in a good defensively sound coach. Dont let willie chose, his last choice was a bust.

Glen gulutzen. I think hes done a great job with special teams with us being ranked #3 I believe in PK. Pp improved too. He survived the bench clearing for a reason. Id like to see him have a bigger role with the team. Like how he took the bull by the horns in torts year by saying lets show you guys how to forecheck as it wasnt happeneing and torts never ran a single practice.

For this id suggest randy carlyle, he was a great D when he played and has won a cup as head coach. Sure hed be an assistant coach but I like this as he can focus on streamlining D without wearing down the team with rants. I also like it since he has experience at nhl level and he can tweak a team, something willie got schooled on in the playoffs by hartley. So he could have a bigger role come playoff time. Not sure if theres other great names out there for it but this knes a slam dumk. You get abgreat teacher of D and excellent strategist, but limit it to assistant so his voice doesnt wear out the team. Come playoffs let him losewhen needed.

Sure some of you will bring up toronto, but hey he had that train wreck of a team performing better than anyone else could. And well, its toronto. Plus its a more limited role.

- SMBDragon


No thank you to Carlyle, he has a cup as coach because he inherited a good team...90% team - 10% Carlyle. He showed his true abilities when he inherited the leafs from Wilson, poopty team, with poopty finishes, with 2 different poopty coaches.

So WD gets out coached in the SC playoffs by a coach with 14 years of NHL experience and 2 years Swiss league to 1 season of NHL experience. I don't believe the coaching was the reason for playoff failure, but it was a product of the lack of skill and determination on the ice.

I've seen this post before where the playoff demise is because WD got out coached by BH...BS, team got outplayed and lost, by a team with more determination.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jul 22 @ 6:05 PM ET
Good Day Gentlemen,

Haven't been around much lately. Started my own business and have been crazy busy. In New Albany, Ohio for some training right now and bored as (frank). How do people live here
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 22 @ 6:09 PM ET
Good Day Gentlemen,

Haven't been around much lately. Started my own business and have been crazy busy. In New Albany, Ohio for some training right now and bored as (frank). How do people live here

- PetrolSexual

It's different in football season

and congrats on taking control of your own life.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 22 @ 6:18 PM ET
Good Day Gentlemen,

Haven't been around much lately. Started my own business and have been crazy busy. In New Albany, Ohio for some training right now and bored as (frank). How do people live here

- PetrolSexual

jeffgouldonfire
Vancouver Canucks
Location: tucson
Joined: 03.08.2013

Jul 22 @ 6:18 PM ET
New Albany, Ohio, eh?

York...New York!
Jersey....New Jersey!
Mexico....New Mexico!
Hampshire...New Hampshire!
Albany...New Albany!

What we lack in imagination, we Americans make up for in bad politics.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 22 @ 6:21 PM ET
New Albany, Ohio, eh?

York...New York!
Jersey....New Jersey!
Mexico....New Mexico!
Hampshire...New Hampshire!
Albany...New Albany!

What we lack in imagination, we Americans make up for in bad politics.

- jeffgouldonfire


, do find it comical Trump is leading approval ratings for the Rep?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 22 @ 6:26 PM ET
, do find it comical Trump is leading approval ratings for the Rep?
- Makita

His Veep will be Omarosa , leader of opposition Rosie ODonnel
jeffgouldonfire
Vancouver Canucks
Location: tucson
Joined: 03.08.2013

Jul 22 @ 6:36 PM ET
Trump is the best advocate the liberals will ever need. No need to slander him in high priced smear campaigns. Buy him a beer, and hand him a microphone.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 22 @ 6:36 PM ET
Good Day Gentlemen,

Haven't been around much lately. Started my own business and have been crazy busy. In New Albany, Ohio for some training right now and bored as (frank). How do people live here

- PetrolSexual


Is your avatar your new company's logo?
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 22 @ 6:40 PM ET
I think 20 goals 42 pts is better than ok . It doesn't sound like underachieving at all. If any Canucks got 20 goals 42 pts I would consider them achieving also.
- VANTEL


Like I said, he did have a decent season last year but that was the first time - and he's been in the league since 2008-2009. His point totals have been:

2009 -15
2010 - 34
2011 - 35
2012 - 19
2013 - 33
2014 - 42

That to me doesn't look like someone who we should be targetting. He's basically Joel Ward light but without the net presence and consistent scoring. Again, no thanks.

Maybe if he puts up better than 35 points in the next couple of years we can have this discussion again

Also, as someone above pointed out, it looks like he's going to arbitration (someone please confirm?) so he'll be seeking a significant raise over his $2.5 million.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 22 @ 6:42 PM ET
Like I said, he did have a decent season last year but that was the first time since 2008-2009. His point totals have been:

2009 -15
2010 - 34
2011 - 35
2012 - 19
2013 - 33
2014 - 42

That to me doesn't look like someone who we should be targetting. He's basically Joel Ward light but without the net presence and consistent scoring. Again, no thanks.

Maybe if he puts up better than 35 points in the next couple of years we can have this discussion again

Also, as someone above pointed out, it looks like he's going to arbitration (someone please confirm?) so he'll be seeking a significant raise over his $2.5 million.

- Zogg


Nashville has never been a high end offence team. His line mates are better last year so are his numbers.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 22 @ 6:43 PM ET
Henrik's more of a realist than some of the Benning lovers here
- Nucker101


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