Thanks, Tikhonov isn't on that list?
- BetweenTheDots

And only one Swede Dman, and we know, Stan loves him some Swede Dman.

Forsling should be on the list.

I didn't say it would be easy to find that guy, but unexpected things do happen. Who thought Darling was going to play well enough to allow them to trade Raanta? Every option they have with trading people to clear the cap room they need has its own drawbacks.
- pjm901

Go back to the beginning of the blog "plan D", I see this more as a nuclear option if all else fails.

Sadd was a great Hawk. Was a great story as well. See him slip in the draft, Hawks take a chance and it pay off. He was a contributor, and I think everyone would have kept him if they could of.

The only thing I have an issue with is the anointing of him as Marion Hossa.
- vabeachbear

No one anointed him the next Hossa except for a couple of this thread. Its getting old to read that narrative.

It's still not good that the first rounders aren't panning out. Obviously you're not going to get one of the top players in the draft at where they are going to pick, but you still should be able to find someone productive in the first round.
- pjm901

Toew, Kane, TT, K. Hayes

In the wings; McNeill, Danault, Hartman, Schmaltz.

Really not bad for where they are picking from after Toews and Kane. Remember that they have started to use a system that will let guys over develop in the minors before they come up to the big club. Think its still early to say if the in the wings guys were good picks or not.

So Quennville thinks Kruger is essential to winning a cup, but Crawford not so much, eh? Um, ok... I guess that's why they pay 4th line centres so much more than starting goalies.
- mcmasterkev

The fact that Quenneville thinks Kruger is essential to the chances for a repeat does not mean that he considers Crawford not essential or less essential. It takes a team to win the cup. Crawford is signed; he's already part of next season's team--unless traded.

No one anointed him the next Hossa except for a couple of this thread. Its getting old to read that narrative.
- TTtime

Well think it was more than a few on this board. I've certainly heard guys on NHL Sirius talk about it. I've seen stories mentioning it, both from Chicago guys and national guys.

And only one Swede Dman, and we know, Stan loves him some Swede Dman.

Forsling should be on the list.
- vabeachbear

Yeah I agree with this one:



http://youtu.be/3LpH-V7CJ08

Ya never know Roar, if you add a 3rd team into the scenario.

I think most every team in the division would love Crow, especially Winnipeg.

Spitballin on your question.

Edmonton? Talbot.

Cam Ward? 1 year left at 6.3 mil.

Islanders? Halak at 4.5 mil thru 2017-18.

Philly? Mason at 4.1 thru 2016-17.

Ottawa? Anderson at 4.2 thru 2017-18.

SJ? Martin Jones at 3 mil thru 2017-18.

Toronto? Riemer at 2.3 thru 2015-16. Bernier is an RFA.
- Mr Ricochet

When was the last 3 team trade in the NHL?

Name one reasonably priced, available goalie, currently with a team having room for a $6MM salary, which is a team on the list of teams CC would go to, that is as good as Crawford and good enough to push Darling, and is not eligible for a new contract in the next three to four years.

Yeah. Not gonna happen.
- Return of the Roar

If the Hawks are in a win now mode, Crawford will not be moved this season. After? Definitely possible if Darling shows he isn't a flash in the pan and progresses.

Finding a partner wouldn't be easy and the value for goalies is generally much less than most fans think.

When was the last 3 team trade in the NHL?
- TTtime

Your the guy with the answers in cyberspace, have at it..............

Your the guy with the answers in cyberspace, have at it..............
- Mr Ricochet

No need. They rarely if ever happen. Keep dreaming though.

And only one Swede Dman, and we know, Stan loves him some Swede Dman.

Forsling should be on the list.
- vabeachbear

He just was replaced on Sweden's U20 team...if he isn't injured that's not a good sign...

No need. They rarely if ever happen. Keep dreaming though.
- TTtime

That's it, TT? Your chance to shine, again, and pass it up?

Actually Forsling's rehabbing

http://espn.go.com/blog/c...ry-at-hawks-prospect-camp

That's it, TT? Your chance to shine, again, and pass it up?
- Mr Ricochet

I will leave the make believe trades to you.

If Seabrook isn't signed and they let him walk for nothing then they will be rebuilding sooner rather than later. I guess they will look at it as another shot at a cup but an asset like that has to bring a return in a cap system. They have no replacements for Seabs and there are none available in free agency. Maybe a couple stop gaps like Hamuis/Johnson may help but that type of band aid lines up things for a hard fall in a few years.
- tredbrta

My thinking is similar...Without him making the playoffs become more difficult.

Hard to replace his size, ability to pass and block shots + he stays healthy and can play physical...And not to forget the best shot from the blueline on the PP.

Toew, Kane, TT, K. Hayes

In the wings; McNeill, Danault, Hartman, Schmaltz.

Really not bad for where they are picking from after Toews and Kane. Remember that they have started to use a system that will let guys over develop in the minors before they come up to the big club. Think its still early to say if the in the wings guys were good picks or not.
- vabeachbear

The reason they stay in the minors is becasue they aren't good enough to serve a purpose on the big club. A very good team can leave the young guys to ferment longer in the AHL...It also gives the club some cap certainty as it takes awhile for those kids to make bigger money.

Good UfC girls fight at the UC tonite on WFLD......... ?????

The reason they stay in the minors is becasue they aren't good enough to serve a purpose on the big club. A very good team can leave the young guys to ferment longer in the AHL...It also gives the club some cap certainty as it takes awhile for those kids to make bigger money.
- Al

True, but my main point was in response the notion that they aren't getting first round picks on the big club in a year or two.

That's what teams like Edmonton have. Think its hard to consistently draft in the 20s, win 3 cups in 6 years, and have your #1 picks be on the big club in a year or two.

Kind of think they purposely draft college, USHL kids and foreigners so they can keep them down in the minors longer.

You can do that when you are good.

Yeah I agree with this one:



http://youtu.be/3LpH-V7CJ08
- walleyeb1

So we can see he can fire one-timers and hit the net. How is he in the defensive zone?

So we can see he can fire one-timers and hit the net. How is he in the defensive zone?
- EbonyRaptor

Forsling is a great skater who is extremely agile. His excellent puck control and above average hockey sense allow him to move the puck up ice. He has a keen sense of timing and his quick feet and good positioning allow him to be an effective defender. As he gets stronger he will only get better in his own zone. He already shows very advanced technical skills (probably from playing in a mens league) with no wasted movement and attention to detail. It is obvious he is dedicated to his craft and a very focused athlete.
His best work is done with the man-advantage. A natural powerplay quarterback, the young Swede sets everything up with his crisp passing and leadership from the blueline. Like a real QB, Forsling leads his teammates into openings and capitalizes on any holes in the defense. His shot is very accurate and often beats goalies with his placement and timing, rather than a booming clapper. - Mike Barrett

True, but my main point was in response the notion that they aren't getting first round picks on the big club in a year or two.

That's what teams like Edmonton have. Think its hard to consistently draft in the 20s, win 3 cups in 6 years, and have your #1 picks be on the big club in a year or two.

Kind of think they purposely draft college, USHL kids and foreigners so they can keep them down in the minors longer.

You can do that when you are good.
- vabeachbear

They take what they can but yes they usually end up staying in the minors for awhile.
If the club can avoid paying a young guy a big raise after an ELC that helps keep the cost down.

Toew, Kane, TT, K. Hayes

In the wings; McNeill, Danault, Hartman, Schmaltz.

Really not bad for where they are picking from after Toews and Kane. Remember that they have started to use a system that will let guys over develop in the minors before they come up to the big club. Think its still early to say if the in the wings guys were good picks or not.
- vabeachbear

Does Hayes really count since he didn't sign?

I really like Forsling's game, here's a good look at him from the World 's:

http://youtu.be/Kbt576w8pSc

When was the last 3 team trade in the NHL?
- TTtime

Right? I can't remember the last one. Seemed like there were lots if them in the past. I imagine the salary cap has something to do with that. Think of the added logistics involved with any trade since the cap came to be, and then get 3 teams involved? Pretty tough to do if any of the teams are tight against the cap, which, if you pick any three teams at random, at least one of them likely will be.