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Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty Joined: 04.06.2011
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Well...duh? - AdamFrench
I'd also take Bergeron to replace Eller and Crosbite to replace Desharnais.
And Halak to replace Price. |
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Fredobbface
Calgary Flames |
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Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC Joined: 07.31.2008
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Ah I don't know. There's a few things that I like about it. But I miss Laprise and the other guys. - Pecafan Fan
You really watch that stuff |
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Well...duh? - AdamFrench
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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You really watch that stuff - Fredobbface
Yeah. I cook a lot. |
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Fredobbface
Calgary Flames |
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Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC Joined: 07.31.2008
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I'd also take Bergeron to replace Eller and Crosbite to replace Desharnais.
And Halak to replace Price. - _nay_
Would not fit under the cap |
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Fredobbface
Calgary Flames |
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Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC Joined: 07.31.2008
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Yeah. I cook a lot. - Pecafan Fan
Fair enough.
You pvr Ricardo? |
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Fair enough.
You pvr Ricardo? - Fredobbface
Not a fan of Ricardo.
But to give you an idea, we make our fresh pastas, sausages, tomato sauce, beets, pickles etc... |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Not a fan of Ricardo.
But to give you an idea, we make our fresh pastas, sausages, tomato sauce, beets, pickles etc... - Pecafan Fan
oh you have to have Adam French over for dinner if he's ever in town |
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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oh you have to have Adam French over for dinner if he's ever in town - DoubleDown
Kids love that poop. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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I'd also take Bergeron to replace Eller and Crosbite to replace Desharnais.
And Halak to replace Price. - _nay_
Eller is basically Bergeron. More importantly though,
Tyler Bozak: 3 years left on contract. $4.2 Million Dollar Cap Hit Per Season. For a player that has recorded 98 points, In his last 140 games (over the last two seasons) averaging 57 points per season--those numbers aren't all that bad. Numbers that are comparable to the following players: Ryan Callahan (54pts - $5.8M Cap Hit), Patrice Bergeron (55pts - $6.875M Cap Hit), David Backes (58pts - $4.5M Cap Hit), T.J. Oshie (55pts - $4.2M Cap Hit), Jason Pominville (54pts - $5.6M Cap Hit), Mikko Koivu (48pts - $6.75M Cap Hit), Brian Little (52pts - $4.7M Cap Hit) to name some comparable players that generate similar productivity along with their Salary Cap Hits, Bozak I would say is priced "just about right". Now, people would argue that playing with Phil Kessel really helped Tyler hit those statistical numbers....and the fact of the matter is, Bozak is not a first line centre. Here's the thing, Tyler isn't being paid like a 1st line centre to begin with. I would say his salary is that of a 2nd line Centre....and maybe on the slightly higher end of a third line centre. Tyler Can win draws, plays sound in the defensive end, and with some capable wingers, can put up about 55 points in a full season. Once again, not bad when compared to the production of the above noted players, and also taking into account their Cap Hits. The Leafs are flipping the page when it comes to their core players. Tyler wasn't a bad player, and didn't have a bad attitude, or a poor work-ethic. He was just part of a core of players that didn't work. With that said, Shanahan and Co want to move forward with their rebuild plans, and Tyler doesn't look to be a part of it. So the question now becomes, what is fair value for Centre Tyler Bozak? When comparing him to other players, and trying to understand his value in the market, I think Tyler, truthfully should warrant back a late 2nd round pick, OR a prospect (either or....not both). If they cannot get a second round pick from anyone, but a 3rd round pick instead, then I could see them asking for a mid-tier prospect in the deal. Tyler in an ideal Scenario would be a teams 3rd line centre...and a guy that can move into the #2 Centre slot if need be. Lets face it, two-way centres that can put up 50+ points aren't that easy to come by anymore, and with a cap hit of $4.2 Million....it isn't all that bad. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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oh you have to have Adam French over for dinner if he's ever in town - DoubleDown
I would have highlighted the sausage one. You've gone soft since the baby news. |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Eller is basically Bergeron. More importantly though,
Tyler Bozak: 3 years left on contract. $4.2 Million Dollar Cap Hit Per Season. For a player that has recorded 98 points, In his last 140 games (over the last two seasons) averaging 57 points per season--those numbers aren't all that bad. Numbers that are comparable to the following players: Ryan Callahan (54pts - $5.8M Cap Hit), Patrice Bergeron (55pts - $6.875M Cap Hit), David Backes (58pts - $4.5M Cap Hit), T.J. Oshie (55pts - $4.2M Cap Hit), Jason Pominville (54pts - $5.6M Cap Hit), Mikko Koivu (48pts - $6.75M Cap Hit), Brian Little (52pts - $4.7M Cap Hit) to name some comparable players that generate similar productivity along with their Salary Cap Hits, Bozak I would say is priced "just about right". Now, people would argue that playing with Phil Kessel really helped Tyler hit those statistical numbers....and the fact of the matter is, Bozak is not a first line centre. Here's the thing, Tyler isn't being paid like a 1st line centre to begin with. I would say his salary is that of a 2nd line Centre....and maybe on the slightly higher end of a third line centre. Tyler Can win draws, plays sound in the defensive end, and with some capable wingers, can put up about 55 points in a full season. Once again, not bad when compared to the production of the above noted players, and also taking into account their Cap Hits. The Leafs are flipping the page when it comes to their core players. Tyler wasn't a bad player, and didn't have a bad attitude, or a poor work-ethic. He was just part of a core of players that didn't work. With that said, Shanahan and Co want to move forward with their rebuild plans, and Tyler doesn't look to be a part of it. So the question now becomes, what is fair value for Centre Tyler Bozak? When comparing him to other players, and trying to understand his value in the market, I think Tyler, truthfully should warrant back a late 2nd round pick, OR a prospect (either or....not both). If they cannot get a second round pick from anyone, but a 3rd round pick instead, then I could see them asking for a mid-tier prospect in the deal. Tyler in an ideal Scenario would be a teams 3rd line centre...and a guy that can move into the #2 Centre slot if need be. Lets face it, two-way centres that can put up 50+ points aren't that easy to come by anymore, and with a cap hit of $4.2 Million....it isn't all that bad. - AdamFrench
i'm not a fan of Eller but i would trade DD over him 10 times out of 10.
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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I would have highlighted the sausage one. You've gone soft since the baby news. - AdamFrench
well it wasn't meant to be a mean insult, more of a playful one... you know beets/Russia/borscht... |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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i'm not a fan of Eller but i would trade DD over him 10 times out of 10. - DoubleDown
Makes sense |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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well it wasn't meant to be a mean insult, more of a playful one... you know beets/Russia/borscht... - DoubleDown
It's a big part of my diet. |
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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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shvingter88
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT Joined: 10.12.2009
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Makes sense - AdamFrench
That's his boy |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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That's his boy - shvingter88
Lou Lamoniello forever a Leaf |
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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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Lou Lamoniello forever a Leaf - AdamFrench
I hope big_dion reposts his news breaking blob tomorrow and changes all the Lamoriellos to Lamoniellos. |
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Is Tampa really going to be that much better then Ottawa this year? On paper it looks to me like they are even and I'd take Ottawa over TB this year, I just like how much room this team has to grow. Most of players are going to be improved next year - espcially our D - Weircoche and Ceci alone should make us better, Boro after 1 full season and Cowen has to be better, if he plays like a top 4 we have one of the best D in the East.
And our forward group, Stone, Chiasson, Zibby, Turris will all be better in the top 6, Pageau, Lazar in the bottom 6 and if Ryan can have any type of season he can we'll be a very solid team.
I think we can win our Division and East, I don't know if we will but it's there for the taking. We have a good team, some of the best talent and depth in the NHL - tuna99
Well....
....LOL! |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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Well....
....LOL! - Pecafan Fan
i like how everyone is just magically going to be better in Ottawa but the same possibility doesn't exist for Tampa. |
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_nay_
Boston Bruins |
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Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty Joined: 04.06.2011
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Well....
....LOL! - Pecafan Fan
Zibby |
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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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I think he brings up valid points. |
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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i like how everyone is just magically going to be better in Ottawa but the same possibility doesn't exist for Tampa. - DoubleDown
Weird phenomenon. |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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I think he brings up valid points. - dt99999
Boroweisckszy looks like he's ready to take the next step |
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