Shinkaruk is not making this team this year.

Clendenning < Bieksa but still in favour of the move

Prust < Kassian

- VANTEL

I agree with all 3 of those.
Management seems sour on shinkaruk. Hes always mentikned intrade rumors. We know after lack and bieksa, zak that if theyre shoppingnthem they will be dealt eventually. So I dont ever see shinkaruk being on the team unless we are talking 9 game tryout or training camp.

I think mostly they are going about it right.

I would replace Higgins with JV.
I would try to trade Vrbata this year for a D prospect.
Burrows move out at TDL
Hamhuis the same at TDL.
- VANTEL

I just hope Benning has the green light and motivation to sell at the TDL, it's way harder to sell during the off-season.

I agree with all 3 of those.
Management seems sour on shinkaruk. Hes always mentikned intrade rumors. We know after lack and bieksa, zak that if theyre shoppingnthem they will be dealt eventually. So I dont ever see shinkaruk being on the team unless we are talking 9 game tryout or training camp.
- SMBDragon

I think there's an outside shot he gets moved for a D prospect.

I think mostly they are going about it right.

I would replace Higgins with JV.
I would try to trade Vrbata this year for a D prospect.
Burrows move out at TDL
Hamhuis the same at TDL.
- VANTEL

I like JV. Personally I see burrows as better to keep than vrbatta. Reason is hes a complete player, so versatile. Plays wicked with sedins, fits with defensive players, kills penalties, screens net excellent, blocks shots, goes into the dirty areas, hes fast, is a playmaker......goes on. Hes a player you keep till he cant perform anymore. A d his clutch goals are great. Good in shootout too.

I think there's an outside shot he gets moved for a D prospect.
- Nucker101

Thatd be nice. I like shinkaruk and am impressed with his snipe skills. But they obviously know something we dont, like attitude or something. Maybe hes a pot head or something.

I like JV. Personally I see burrows as better to keep than vrbatta. Reason is hes a complete player, so versatile. Plays wicked with sedins, fits with defensive players, kills penalties, screens net excellent, blocks shots, goes into the dirty areas, hes fast, is a playmaker......goes on. Hes a player you keep till he cant perform anymore. A d his clutch goals are great. Good in shootout too.
- SMBDragon

Burrows would bring in a better return than most think if he had an expiring contract, he's still a very valuable player. He'd they've if he went to a team where he didn't have any pressure to score and could just play on a checking 3rd line and do what he's best at.

Thatd be nice. I like shinkaruk and am impressed with his snipe skills. But they obviously know something we dont, like attitude or something. Maybe hes a pot head or something.
- SMBDragon

I don't really trust random posters/people but everyone who claims to know him or his family usually say he's kind of a dbag and cocky but then again that didn't stop Kesler from becoming a good player.

I don't get it, are you saying the Canucks should have signed Sbisa to a 6 year contract to get better value?
- 1970vintage

He loves to compare apples to oranges.

Shinkaruk is not making this team this year.


Markstrom< Lack

Clendenning < Bieksa but still in favour of the move

Prust < Kassian


Where did they improve?
- VANTEL

I agree with you about the kassian trade, it was a poor move by benning especially after he was only able to play 42 games this season. If he had played the full season he could potentially have had 31 points and around 20 goals based upon his points per game. That's without knowing how he would have done without injuries.

Weber is a pretty good addition on the powerplay and he's a solid bottom pairing defense man. Clendening is still developing and was considered one of the blackhawks better defensive prospects before he was traded. He might be on the line between an ahl and an nhl defensemen but he will most likely continue to improve in the next two years. I initially said that the line up was dependent upon the continued development of the organization's prospects. Vey is an excellent fourth line center, 10 goals and 14 assists are about all you can hope for for that spot in the line up. I would say that 15 goals and around 35 points should be about where a third liner should be. Bonino, higgins, and burrows all meet that requirement with bonino on the border between a third and a second liner. As I said before shinkaruk could replace conacher.
- mncanucks

How many points of his were actually scored on the 4rth line? He got points with the Sedins and PP time as well.

http://thehockeywriters.c...newfound-defensive-depth/

He loves to compare apples to oranges.
- boonerbuck

Both RFA's, both could have been signed to one year deals. Both had UFA years bought in their new contracts.

That's about where the similarities end since Larsson on one leg is still probably more useful

http://thehockeywriters.com/vancouvers-newfound-defensive-depth/
- Marwood

Love how he has Liberati ahead of Pedan, Biega, Sautner, etc when he's not even signed and technically a UFA

I agree with you about the kassian trade, it was a poor move by benning especially after he was only able to play 42 games this season. If he had played the full season he could potentially have had 31 points and around 20 goals based upon his points per game. That's without knowing how he would have done without injuries.
- mncanucks

Its pretty obvious they want the crap attitudes and partiers off the team. Think about who they traded. ....kesler, bieksa (keslers best buddy), zak, with shinkaruk on the block. Speaks volumes.

Who knows about lack..... kinda strikes me as a big kid in ways.

I don't really trust random posters/people but everyone who claims to know him or his family usually say he's kind of a dbag and cocky but then again that didn't stop Kesler from becoming a good player.
- Nucker101

Makes sense then

Burrows would bring in a better return than most think if he had an expiring contract, he's still a very valuable player. He'd they've if he went to a team where he didn't have any pressure to score and could just play on a checking 3rd line and do what he's best at.
- Nucker101

I dont think taking a versatile player that does all that and puts them in a limited role is too smart though. Use it.

I agree with all 3 of those.
Management seems sour on shinkaruk. Hes always mentikned intrade rumors. We know after lack and bieksa, zak that if theyre shoppingnthem they will be dealt eventually. So I dont ever see shinkaruk being on the team unless we are talking 9 game tryout or training camp.
- SMBDragon

9 game tryout? Shink is not in junior. He can go up and down from Utica without being placed on waivers.

There hasnt been much talk from credible sources involving Shinkaruk in trades. I don't see how you come to the conclusion that they are sour on him. He just had a slow start... why praise a slow start. He had a strong finish to the season and management praised him. To me it looks like they are calling it as they see it. Sour?

I just hope Benning has the green light and motivation to sell at the TDL, it's way harder to sell during the off-season.
- Nucker101

Your man Miller will have a Vezina season. We pick 26th and buy rentals at the TDL.

I dont think taking a versatile player that does all that and puts them in a limited role is too smart though. Use it.
- SMBDragon

He'd still be on the PK, I really don't think he's a good PP player. He was part of the 2nd unit last season that was amongst the league's worst. AV gave him limited PP time as well.

A PK, checking, agitating role is what he's suited for. He can still crash the net and stir poop up at even strength.

Thatd be nice. I like shinkaruk and am impressed with his snipe skills. But they obviously know something we dont, like attitude or something. Maybe hes a pot head or something.
- SMBDragon

WTF.. really? Odd thing to speculate.

Your man Miller will have a Vezina season. We pick 26th and buy rentals at the TDL.
- boonerbuck

Miller will likely have a better sv% this season. Last year was a pretty mediocre season for him.

WTF.. really? Odd thing to speculate.
- boonerbuck

Never heard of that but if he's into the white stuff then he's LA bound

How many points of his were actually scored on the 4rth line? He got points with the Sedins and PP time as well.
- boonerbuck

We need a sniper for the sedins if he was capable of playing with them then why not keep him there? If vrbata's traded at the deadline the space would be available and could have been a replacement. Being their winger might have helped him develop. Aside from this year, he had a good season in 2013-2014 and had 35 points so it's not like he hasn't done it before. Maybe instead of trading away everybody who was partying/ had a bad attitude they should have attempted to fix/correct it. The league has rehab programs for a reason. They could have had him drug tested if there was suspicion that he was under the influence while with the team. If he wasn't then I don't see why it was a problem. Benning was also one of the people who were involved in trading away seguin for off ice issues.

I agree with you about the kassian trade, it was a poor move by benning especially after he was only able to play 42 games this season. If he had played the full season he could potentially have had 31 points and around 20 goals based upon his points per game. That's without knowing how he would have done without injuries.
- mncanucks

You must of missed the part about his off ice issues. Benning even said there was a fine line about being a professional. Boston shied away from trading for him because "his off ice issues were not worth it".

Our prospects need to stay away from Kassian.

I like JV. Personally I see burrows as better to keep than vrbatta. Reason is hes a complete player, so versatile. Plays wicked with sedins, fits with defensive players, kills penalties, screens net excellent, blocks shots, goes into the dirty areas, hes fast, is a playmaker......goes on. Hes a player you keep till he cant perform anymore. A d his clutch goals are great. Good in shootout too.
- SMBDragon

It depends what a team is looking for. I agree Burrows is the better player but if a team wants a goal scorer then Vbata would be your guy