http://thehockeywriters.com/vancouvers-newfound-defensive-depth/
- Marwood

Wow, absolutely awe inspiring levels of delusion. This guy is a Trump supporter, for sure.

I think there's an outside shot he gets moved for a D prospect.
- Nucker101

May as well

It depends what a team is looking for. I agree Burrows is the better player but if a team wants a goal scorer then Vbata would be your guy
- VANTEL

MTL should be all over Vrbata, I bet they'll be interested at the TDL.

Wow, absolutely awe inspiring levels of delusion. This guy is a Trump supporter, for sure.
- CubanBuffet

I skimmed it, I knew it was bad once I saw the Liberati thing.

9 game tryout? Shink is not in junior. He can go up and down from Utica without being placed on waivers.

There hasnt been much talk from credible sources involving Shinkaruk in trades. I don't see how you come to the conclusion that they are sour on him. He just had a slow start... why praise a slow start. He had a strong finish to the season and management praised him. To me it looks like they are calling it as they see it. Sour?

- boonerbuck

Was he in utica? I don't recall that?
Ya he was constantly part of trade rumors. Ek printed they offered our 1st a d shink for the # whatever it was. There were many others.

We need a sniper for the sedins if he was capable of playing with them then why not keep him there? If vrbata's traded at the deadline the space would be available. He could have been a replacement for burrows. It also could have helped him develop. Aside from this year, he had a good season in 2013-2014 and had 35 points. Maybe instead of trading away everybody who was partying/ had a bad attitude they should have attempted to fix/.corrected it. The league has rehab programs for a reason. They could have had him drug tested if there was suspicion that he was under the influence while with the team. If he wasn't then I don't see why it was a problem.
- mncanucks

So you want the whole world to know we have a drug addict on our team. It's ok for the steady stream of youth we have coming to be with someone who has drug problems and violent issues on and off the ice... issues with physical contact with refs(twice)... someone who cant even stay in the line up when healthy...


I can keep going on but really... it's best to part ways. Just more bullpoop that Gillis left behind to hurt this team. Do you still believe Gillis' crap from when we traded for him about how special of a player he was and how players like this dont become available very often blah blah blah. The guy is willing to throw his career down the toilet and take our prospects with him... he needed to be gone.

We are all patiently waiting for the Sedins to move on and hope this team doesnt overachieve and get in the way of quality drafting. I am perplexed about you wanting to keep building around the twins and improving this team for the short term. Accept what this team needs to do.

http://thehockeywriters.com/vancouvers-newfound-defensive-depth/
- Marwood

A positive write up.

It depends what a team is looking for. I agree Burrows is the better player but if a team wants a goal scorer then Vbata would be your guy
- VANTEL

Im saying id rather keep burrows. Hes even better with sedins tha vrbatta....many will disagree but theres a reason he was with them for several years. Vrbatta only made it 1/2 season.
Thing with burrows w sedins is he can be playmaker or fi isher or net presence or dangle behind net. Hes perfect for them and gives the line more tools.

Was he in utica? I don't recall that?
Ya he was constantly part of trade rumors. Ek printed they offered our 1st a d shink for the # whatever it was. There were many others.
- SMBDragon

Yes, his first year pro. He had a slow start and strong finish. He was on the ice while Jensen sat many nights.

Shink may or may not make it but I wouldnt be down on him based on his rookie season. The trend had him improving. Hard to see a negative in that.

Was he in utica? I don't recall that?
Ya he was constantly part of trade rumors. Ek printed they offered our 1st a d shink for the # whatever it was. There were many others.
- SMBDragon

Edler + Shinkaruk + #6 for #1 overall(Reinhart) is what I remember hearing(I believe it was a CDC poster that goes by the name of Hockey Widow).

We need a sniper for the sedins if he was capable of playing with them then why not keep him there? If vrbata's traded at the deadline the space would be available and could have been a replacement. Being their winger might have helped him develop. Aside from this year, he had a good season in 2013-2014 and had 35 points so it's not like he hasn't done it before. Maybe instead of trading away everybody who was partying/ had a bad attitude they should have attempted to fix/correct it. The league has rehab programs for a reason. They could have had him drug tested if there was suspicion that he was under the influence while with the team. If he wasn't then I don't see why it was a problem. Benning was also one of the people who were involved in trading away seguin for off ice issues.
- mncanucks

My God. Kassian was given more than enough chances. He couldn't step up. He couldn't figure out what his role was. His only success was as a backboard for the Sedins to bank the puck off of. And even then, the Sedins were doing all the work, it's not like Kassian was creating space for them. He wasn't responsible defensively, he couldn't kill penalties. He was a passenger the entire time he was here.

But damn, I wish he got another chance...

Im saying id rather keep burrows. Hes even better with sedins tha vrbatta....many will disagree but theres a reason he was with them for several years. Vrbatta only made it 1/2 season.
Thing with burrows w sedins is he can be playmaker or fi isher or net presence or dangle behind net. Hes perfect for them and gives the line more tools.
- SMBDragon

I know but at the end of next year I hope they are both gone

So you want the whole world to know we have a drug addict on our team. It's ok for the steady stream of youth we have coming to be with someone who has drug problems and violent issues on and off the ice... issues with physical contact with refs(twice)... someone who cant even stay in the line up when healthy...


I can keep going on but really... it's best to part ways. Just more bullpoop that Gillis left behind to hurt this team. Do you still believe Gillis' crap from when we traded for him about how special of a player he was and how players like this dont become available very often blah blah blah. The guy is willing to throw his career down the toilet and take our prospects with him... he needed to be gone.

We are all patiently waiting for the Sedins to move on and hope this team doesnt overachieve and get in the way of quality drafting. I am perplexed about you wanting to keep building around the twins and improving this team for the short term. Accept what this team needs to do.
- boonerbuck

Ya it needed to be done, thats correct. But gillis was right that his skills are pretty awesome and gyys like this arent offered very often. But the drugs are problems you dont need on a team of young guys with tons of cash. You are right. Somit had to be done.

Definately a tendency with this typemof player.....its like that K.Beech guy.....some team gave him 1 more chance....think chicago, but otherwise his careers over and never got offnthe ground.

Yes, his first year pro. He had a slow start and strong finish. He was on the ice while Jensen sat many nights.

Shink may or may not make it but I wouldnt be down on him based on his rookie season. The trend had him improving. Hard to see a negative in that.
- boonerbuck

I like his talent. Never saw anything in jensen. Glad hes buggered off

So you want the whole world to know we have a drug addict on our team. It's ok for the steady stream of youth we have coming to be with someone who has drug problems and violent issues on and off the ice... issues with physical contact with refs(twice)... someone who cant even stay in the line up when healthy...


I can keep going on but really... it's best to part ways. Just more bullpoop that Gillis left behind to hurt this team. Do you still believe Gillis' crap from when we traded for him about how special of a player he was and how players like this dont become available very often blah blah blah. The guy is willing to throw his career down the toilet and take our prospects with him... he needed to be gone.

We are all patiently waiting for the Sedins to move on and hope this team doesnt overachieve and get in the way of quality drafting. I am perplexed about you wanting to keep building around the twins and improving this team for the short term. Accept what this team needs to do.
- boonerbuck

Do we know it's a drug problem? He could just be an alcoholic like Cam Barker was.

Edler + Shinkaruk + #6 for #1 overall(Reinhart) is what I remember hearing(I believe it was a CDC poster that goes by the name of Hockey Widow).
- Nucker101

Not the 1 im thinking of

I like his talent. Never saw anything in jensen. Glad hes buggered off
- SMBDragon

Jensen s still listed as a Canuck ,did I miss something?

Do we know it's a drug problem? He could just be an alcoholic like Cam Barker was.
- Nucker101

Or he could just be painfully painfully stupid. It's not like his play regressed while he was here.

Do we know it's a drug problem? He could just be an alcoholic like Cam Barker was.
- Nucker101

It was pretty well known from what ive seen in reports. At least he wasnt dumb enough to post photos of himself doing coke at the roxy like Obrien did.

Edler + Shinkaruk + #6 for #1 overall(Reinhart) is what I remember hearing(I believe it was a CDC poster that goes by the name of Hockey Widow).
- Nucker101

Clearly that is proof management has soured on him.

It was pretty well known from what ive seen in reports. At least he wasnt dumb enough to post photos of himself doing coke at the roxy like Obrien did.
- SMBDragon

"Well known" and "constantly repeated rumour" aren't the same thing.

Jensen s still listed as a Canuck ,did I miss something?
- VANTEL

Saw a roster thing somewhere where it listed jensen as signing in europe. Canucks would otherwise hold rights though so thats probably why hes listed.

Wish I could recall where I saw it. Listed players coming in and going out and where they are now or came from

"Well known" and "constantly repeated rumour" aren't the same thing.
- CubanBuffet

Ok....but im sure they didnt want him gone so bad just because he was intelliegence points below some other players. Think I saw news report hed been charged with drunken boating.

The fact hes gone does support the reports

Ill be clear, I dont blindly believe much. This 1 I do believe based on outcome and things said by management

Ok....but im sure they didnt want him gone so bad just because he was intelliegence points below some other players. Think I saw news report hed been charged with drunken boating.

The fact hes gone does support the reports

Ill be clear, I dont blindly believe much. This 1 I do.
- SMBDragon

Maybe Byfuglien who has been mistaken on a few occasions as his ugly twin

So you want the whole world to know we have a drug addict on our team. It's ok for the steady stream of youth we have coming to be with someone who has drug problems and violent issues on and off the ice... issues with physical contact with refs(twice)... someone who cant even stay in the line up when healthy...


I can keep going on but really... it's best to part ways. Just more bullpoop that Gillis left behind to hurt this team. Do you still believe Gillis' crap from when we traded for him about how special of a player he was and how players like this dont become available very often blah blah blah. The guy is willing to throw his career down the toilet and take our prospects with him... he needed to be gone.

We are all patiently waiting for the Sedins to move on and hope this team doesnt overachieve and get in the way of quality drafting. I am perplexed about you wanting to keep building around the twins and improving this team for the short term. Accept what this team needs to do.
- boonerbuck

If it's necessary then yes. Benning basically just gave away a first and a fifth round pick for a good defensive fourth liner. As I said, benning had influence in the seguin trade which also occurred due to off ice issues.