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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 27 @ 11:05 AM ET
Streit was like 28 years old when he first started in the league I believe, so there's hope. Granted, Medvedev is 32. As long as he can contribute some offense, get pucks out of the zone, and play competent defense, i'll be happy.
- benjichronic


If he passes the puck well that will be a big improvement on the guy he's replacing.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 27 @ 11:06 AM ET
6 years at $6.5m AAV for Stepan.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 27 @ 11:09 AM ET
6 years at $6.5m AAV for Stepan.
- Feanor


Good signing by NYR.

Hope he goes goalless for 6 years.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 27 @ 11:35 AM ET
Good signing by NYR.

Hope he goes goalless for 6 years.

- jmatchett383

We'll see, I'm not enthralled with him but I did think he might get more.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Jul 27 @ 11:39 AM ET
Colin Wilson signed, 4 years, 15.75 mil.

Nice signing for the preds.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 27 @ 11:49 AM ET
If he passes the puck well that will be a big improvement on the guy he's replacing.
- Feanor



Hopefully he's as good defensively as the guy he's replacing.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 27 @ 12:10 PM ET
Getting the puck out of your own zone is the best defense.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 27 @ 12:14 PM ET
Getting the puck out of your own zone is the best defense.
- Feanor



That's true, but even the best teams have to spend significant time defending. Medvedev's puck skills, shot, and mobility all look very promising. Ultimately, he is a defenseman, and he needs to play well defensively. The Flyers will miss some of the attributes that Grossmann brought to the team, if he doesn't. Ultimately, I trust Hextall, and his decision making.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 27 @ 12:48 PM ET
I was surprised when I looked at the list...Paul Coffey played for 9 teams.
- Jsaquella


Yeah, he bounced around quite a bit his last few seasons.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 27 @ 12:50 PM ET
Streit was like 28 years old when he first started in the league I believe, so there's hope. Granted, Medvedev is 32. As long as he can contribute some offense, get pucks out of the zone, and play competent defense, i'll be happy.
- benjichronic


A lot will depend on how he adapts to the smaller rink/more physical game. If he can deal with that, he'll be fine. He has the skills.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 27 @ 12:50 PM ET
Good signing by NYR.

Hope he goes goalless for 6 years.

- jmatchett383

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 27 @ 12:51 PM ET
Yeah, he bounced around quite a bit his last few seasons.
- BiggE


The fact that he was traded at the height of his career was astonishing, in retrospect.

Not as astonishing as trading Wayne Gretzky, but still pretty crazy.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 27 @ 12:56 PM ET
The fact that he was traded at the height of his career was astonishing, in retrospect.

Not as astonishing as trading Wayne Gretzky, but still pretty crazy.

- johndewar


Yeah, the Gretzky was deal was purely a salary dump on Edmonton's part. Coffey was kind of a mix. Sure, they weren't happy about paying him, but I also think they felt that they could do without his one dimensional play. Heck, FWIW, Scotty Bowman couldn't stand the way Coffey played.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 27 @ 1:01 PM ET
Yeah, the Gretzky was deal was purely a salary dump on Edmonton's part. Coffey was kind of a mix. Sure, they weren't happy about paying him, but I also think they felt that they could do without his one dimensional play. Heck, FWIW, Scotty Bowman couldn't stand the way Coffey played.
- BiggE



Coffey was always a 4th forward who just happened to be positioned at defense. Still might be the best skater I ever saw in person.



BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 27 @ 1:03 PM ET
Coffey was always a 4th forward who just happened to be positioned at defense. Still might be the best skater I ever saw in person.


- MBFlyerfan


He's certainly up there. Orr would be first on my list; after that it's a 3 way battle between Yvan Cournoyer, Paul Coffey and Pavel Bure for 2nd.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
He's certainly up there. Orr would be first on my list; after that it's a 3 way battle between Yvan Cournoyer, Paul Coffey and Pavel Bure for 2nd.
- BiggE




I never saw Orr in person so I cant go there.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 27 @ 1:09 PM ET
I never saw Orr in person so I cant go there.
- MBFlyerfan


He was amazing. Not only could he skate like he was shot out of a rocket, but he could turn on a dime, and do everything while going at top speed. I can't even imagine how good he could have been if he had healthy knees.

leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jul 27 @ 1:38 PM ET
He's certainly up there. Orr would be first on my list; after that it's a 3 way battle between Yvan Cournoyer, Paul Coffey and Pavel Bure for 2nd.
- BiggE


And, Dave Brown a close 6th.

Seriously - summer fun until the season gets here - the worst stakers (lets keep this to known players) and worst Flyers staker. Dave Brown needed his stick otherwise he's fall. Speaking of falling, not sure if Hartnell makes the list.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 27 @ 1:44 PM ET
He was amazing. Not only could he skate like he was shot out of a rocket, but he could turn on a dime, and do everything while going at top speed. I can't even imagine how good he could have been if he had healthy knees.
- BiggE

everyone at the parade was singing....one, two, three, four who the flock is Bobby Orr...
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 27 @ 1:49 PM ET
And, Dave Brown a close 6th.

Seriously - summer fun until the season gets here - the worst stakers (lets keep this to known players) and worst Flyers staker. Dave Brown needed his stick otherwise he's fall. Speaking of falling, not sure if Hartnell makes the list.

- leon neon

Glen Cochrane made Dave Brown look like Peggy Fleming.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 27 @ 2:06 PM ET
Has any pitcher in MLB history ever thrown a no-hitter and then been traded before his next start?
- jmatchett383


No. Two pitchers have been traded during the season in which they threw no hitters, but there's never been a pitcher traded before his next appearance after throwing a no hitter.

The two that were traded in the season they threw their no hitters are Edwin Jackson in 2010 and Cliff Chambers in 1951. Both were traded about 5 weeks after their no hitters.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 27 @ 2:08 PM ET
And, Dave Brown a close 6th.

Seriously - summer fun until the season gets here - the worst stakers (lets keep this to known players) and worst Flyers staker. Dave Brown needed his stick otherwise he's fall. Speaking of falling, not sure if Hartnell makes the list.

- leon neon


Gino Odjick was pretty awful. He just looked so awkward skating.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 27 @ 2:10 PM ET
And, Dave Brown a close 6th.

Seriously - summer fun until the season gets here - the worst stakers (lets keep this to known players) and worst Flyers staker. Dave Brown needed his stick otherwise he's fall. Speaking of falling, not sure if Hartnell makes the list.

- leon neon


In no particular order

Rick Foley
Can just barely remember him from when I was a tyke. He looked like John Kruk on skates, but hell, at least Kruk could actually play his sport!

Ed Van Impe
Nasty S.O.B., but slow as molasses

Willie Huber
You could time him with a sundial

Brad Marsh
All heart and a great shot blocker, but man was he slow

Dave Hoyda
Hard to really tell how slow he truly was, he was rarely on the ice for more than a few seconds before getting into a fight

Dave Brown
Thankfully, it's not necessary to skate to beat the crap out of people

Glen Cochrane
Pairing him with Mark Howe (yes they actually played together for a while) was like pairing the roadrunner with Foghorn Leghorn

Michael Handzus
Zus had a lot of great attributes and skills, however skating wasn't one of them.

Keith Jones
Jonesy was so slow, that he didn't make it off the ice after his final shift until halfway through the next season

Scott Hartnell
Yeah, he's not really that bad a skater, but man, the guy goes down more than a Kardashian sister.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 27 @ 2:10 PM ET
Gino Odjick was pretty awful. He just looked so awkward skating.
- jmatchett383


Greg Smyth was horrible in pretty much all aspects
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 27 @ 2:13 PM ET
Greg Smyth was horrible in pretty much all aspects
- Jsaquella


He was so awful, I've removed him from my memory.
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