Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Ah Foppa. Great ballsy move, but the foot injuries turned him from dominant star to distraction by the end of his time here as a NHLer.
It didn't help much that before his last season, Bob Clarke basically did nothing to improve the team, and in fact made it worse (Handzus for Kyle Calder, Mark Cullen, Nolan Baumgartner)
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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey Joined: 11.28.2007
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Am I leight again? - MarchHare
Fashionably |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Am I leight again? - Streit2ThePoint
Not very. Sorry. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Ah Foppa. Great ballsy move, but the foot injuries turned him from dominant star to distraction by the end of his time here as a NHLer.
It didn't help much that before his last season, Bob Clarke basically did nothing to improve the team, and in fact made it worse (Handzus for Kyle Calder, Mark Cullen, Nolan Baumgartner) - Jsaquella
Randy Robitaille |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Randy Robitaille - jmatchett383
Yep. What a cluster(frank) that team was. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Yep. What a cluster(frank) that team was. - Jsaquella
It's pretty impressive that Holmgren took a team that was dead last and turned them into an ECF team. Maybe they overachieved (or Montreal underachieved) a bit, but whatever other knocks you have on him, he did a great job that first year. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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It's pretty impressive that Holmgren took a team that was dead last and turned them into an ECF team. Maybe they overachieved (or Montreal underachieved) a bit, but whatever other knocks you have on him, he did a great job that first year. - jmatchett383
He had a very good start, unfortunately, he got to the point after the injury to Pronger where he was kind of caught. He was transitioning to the Giroux-Voracek-Simmonds forward core, and was hoping to have Pronger to anchor the defense for 4-5 more seasons.
When he went down, the doubling down and trading away more and more picks, and some of the questionable contracts left them in a rough spot. There was little in the system that could step in on a cheap ELC and teams started being more proactive to make sure their good young players would be locked up before they got to free agency.
I don't think he's incompetent, but he made some bad reads in free agency and that hurt. And while I have little doubt that the Flyers will be at or near the cap under Hextall, I don't think we're going to see a repeat of the huge contracts to fading players or the trading of picks for pending UFAs. Hextall is going to pay his stars, and core pieces and bring in depth players for cheap. He's going to use free agency as a secondary tool, not the primary one, to fill roster holes. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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He had a very good start, unfortunately, he got to the point after the injury to Pronger where he was kind of caught. He was transitioning to the Giroux-Voracek-Simmonds forward core, and was hoping to have Pronger to anchor the defense for 4-5 more seasons.
When he went down, the doubling down and trading away more and more picks, and some of the questionable contracts left them in a rough spot. There was little in the system that could step in on a cheap ELC and teams started being more proactive to make sure their good young players would be locked up before they got to free agency.
I don't think he's incompetent, but he made some bad reads in free agency and that hurt. And while I have little doubt that the Flyers will be at or near the cap under Hextall, I don't think we're going to see a repeat of the huge contracts to fading players or the trading of picks for pending UFAs. Hextall is going to pay his stars, and core pieces and bring in depth players for cheap. He's going to use free agency as a secondary tool, not the primary one, to fill roster holes. - Jsaquella
Agreed 100%. He had some blunders, but a lot of that was fallout from the Pronger injury. He was the key piece on the back end, and when he went down, Homer went into full band aid mode. Part of that falls on his unwillingness to address the blue line through thee draft, whether it be from poor picks or the absence of picks. |
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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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Agreed 100%. He had some blunders, but a lot of that was fallout from the Pronger injury. He was the key piece on the back end, and when he went down, Homer went into full band aid mode. Part of that falls on his unwillingness to address the blue line through thee draft, whether it be from poor picks or the absence of picks. - jmatchett383
by the time the need to develop defensemen was made painfully obvious, he was in a squeeze where he had to bolster that pipeline while simultaneously helping the NHL blueline. It was a no win situation, albeit one he let himself get stuck in. |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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Oh god it's august |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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I never has the pleasure of watching Clarke play, aside from the alumni game, in person. Not all of us were there when Columbus found the new world.
- jmatchett383
Back in my day we had respect for our elders.
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ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ardmore, PA Joined: 01.04.2013
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Back in my day we had respect for our elders. - Scoob
In your day, there were no elders. |
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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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In your day, there were no elders. - ThirdEye
Where'd all the new people come from then? |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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In your day, there were no elders. - ThirdEye
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Yep. What a cluster(frank) that team was. - Jsaquella
It was hard to watch that season |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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In your day, there were no elders. - ThirdEye
Pipe down, ya damn kids! |
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ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ardmore, PA Joined: 01.04.2013
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Where'd all the new people come from then? - mayorofangrytown
They were the first ones. |
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vejim
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: FL Joined: 07.08.2007
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I never has the pleasure of watching Clarke play, aside from the alumni game, in person. Not all of us were there when Columbus found the new world.
Bobby Clarke will always be the best Flyers player unless the Flyers get a Gretzky/Lemieux/Orr type of player. He just will be. I wish I could have watched him play live, as I don't think videos do him justice. - jmatchett383
Clarke was my favorite with Lindros and Hexy close 2 and 3 |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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It's provorov vs sanheim/fazleev on nhl network right now for all you OB wannabies |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Where'd all the new people come from then? - mayorofangrytown
The ribs of existing people. |
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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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They were the first ones. - ThirdEye
Are you saying BiggE lacks a belly button? |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Are you saying BiggE lacks a belly button? - mayorofangrytown
He's a witch! BURN HIM!!! |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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Fazleev with the shorty! Provorov angled him off but a wicked wrister beats the Brandon goalie
After 1
Brandon - 0
Calgary - 1 |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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It was hard to watch that season - BiggE
Before that season you were a non drinker, right? |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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The ribs of existing people. - jmatchett383
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